Romo or Roesthlisberger? Explain..

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Cover 2;3261911 said:
Put Romo on those Pitt teams and Romo has AT LEAST two SB rings.

I doubt it.

Big Ben has been tough to take down while in the grasp. Romo isn't tough to take down while in the grasp.

And can you tell me when's the last time Romo won a game with a touchdown pass in the last seconds of the game? I'm asking because I really don't recall.
 

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Scranton Tiger;3262083 said:
Put me down for Romo. The reason is very simple. It's true Roethlisberger has two rings but to this point he also has something else that Romo has NEVER had. A DOMINATE defense. That luxary all too often is overlooked and never should be. Big Ben can suck all day long and his defense can win the game without him. See Super Bowl 40 and countless other games since he became the starter in 2004. On the other hand if Romo plays poorly, Dallas has a ZERO chance to win the game. He doesn't always have to throw for 300 yards and 3TDs but he can't have a bad game. If he does, we lose. PERIOD. This doesn't mean I think Roethlisberger isn't any good. Obviously he is a good QB. Just has had much more to work with to this point in both their careers. Hopefully that's about to change.

Yeah, that dominate defense that let the Cardinals get back in the game, then relied on Ben to win it at the end.

Yeah, that dominate defense that let the Packers score 37 points before Big Ben completed a touchdown pass with no time left in the game.

I'm glad we have Romo, but let's get real. The only last minute pass I can recall Romo throwing is to Witten against a very poor Lions team that didn't win a game and an interception to the Giants after targeting a receiver (Terry Glen) who hadn't played for much of the season.
 

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CowboyFan74;3262121 said:
Romo is our guy but what I like about Ben is that he has proven he can win from behind...

^ Probably the best post in here. ^
 

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tyke1doe;3262672 said:
And can you tell me when's the last time Romo won a game with a touchdown pass in the last seconds of the game? I'm asking because I really don't recall.

Detroit, 2007?
 

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tyke1doe;3262672 said:
I doubt it.

Big Ben has been tough to take down while in the grasp. Romo isn't tough to take down while in the grasp.

And can you tell me when's the last time Romo won a game with a touchdown pass in the last seconds of the game? I'm asking because I really don't recall.
If Romo were on the team they probably wouldn't need a TD in the final seconds to win the game. Although I may be a homer, but I think Romo is a much better QB then Rapelisberger. I'm sure many would disagree with the homer label though.

The Steelers had an amazing D during their Super Bowl run that I think Romo could have done well with. That and their running game. Rapelisberger was throwing less than 20 times a game during that first Super Bowl run, and I have no idea how many times he threw during the second.

I'll admit I'm ignorant to the last SB run, but on the first one he didn't look impressive at all. It seriously wouldn't surprise me if he got brain damage from the motorcycle accident listening to him talk.

I think he's an above average QB, but I think Romo is better. Pardon my ramblings. I tend to do that from time to time.
 

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the kid 05;3262750 said:
Commanders game this season...

There were several minutes left in the game, no? Certainly not the final seconds.
 

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Double Trouble;3262756 said:
There were several minutes left in the game, no? Certainly not the final seconds.

if my memory isn't failing me it was with in the last two minutes so not necessarily a "last second" td but a come from behind win non the less.
 

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the kid 05;3262764 said:
if my memory isn't failing me it was with in the last two minutes so not necessarily a "last second" td but a come from behind win non the less.
I do believe you're correct, it came very late in the 4th.
 

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the kid 05;3262764 said:
if my memory isn't failing me it was with in the last two minutes so not necessarily a "last second" td but a come from behind win non the less.

I looked it up. Over 4 minutes left.

Not that it wasn't important, but it wasn't a last second TD, which was the point someone made earlier.
 

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Double Trouble;3262779 said:
I looked it up. Over 4 minutes left.

Not that it wasn't important, but it wasn't a last second TD, which was the point someone made earlier.

TD02:41Patrick Crayton 10 Yd Pass From Tony Romo (Nick Folk Kick)
2mins 41 secs left, so with in 3 final minutes of the game. Yet people say "Romo doesn't come in on clutch time". Thats about as true as saying our economy is great.
 

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the kid 05;3262781 said:
TD02:41Patrick Crayton 10 Yd Pass From Tony Romo (Nick Folk Kick)
2mins 41 secs left, so with in 3 final minutes of the game. Yet people say "Romo doesn't come in on clutch time". Thats about as true as saying our economy is great.

Nice.

Ben is very good and I respect all that he's accomplished. I think Romo is a little better overall. I don't think there's a big difference and I can understand why some would take Ben.

Romo's stats are as good as any player in history with his # of starts and his teams have won about 70% of the games he has started - so it's not like they're meaningless stats.

Ben has been on a couple of teams with great defenses and the Steelers won that 1st SB DESPITE his horrific performance. Great pass in last year's SB. I think he's tough and a really good QB, but it takes a team (and sometimes refs) to win a SB. That's why I shake my head when people just throw out rings as a reason why someone is better.

Dilfer, Williams, Johnson, Hostetler are NOT better than Marino, Kelly, Tarkenton etc.

Like I said, I think it's close. I just think Romo is a little better QB overall.
 

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juck;3261824 said:
BEN R.

I feel both have good field vision,nice arms,accurate,escapability,smarts. Ben gets my knod cause he has something that cant be taught,SIZE. His size and toughness to sit and take the hit for the throw makes him a better QB as of now. Opinions?

Ben is a very good QB excuse me though if I like the one we have just fine.
 

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juck;3261824 said:
BEN R.

I feel both have good field vision,nice arms,accurate,escapability,smarts. Ben gets my knod cause he has something that cant be taught,SIZE. His size and toughness to sit and take the hit for the throw makes him a better QB as of now. Opinions?

Romo, and its easy to me. You give Romo the defense that Worthless-berger had Romo would have multiple rings too. Big Ben has lived off of that defense, cause he didnt have to do much. As soon as the D dropped off, and ben had to put up numbers, the team didnt make the playoffs.

ROMO ALL DAY AND TWICE ON SUNDAY. I hate the rings argument. Two Rings...So What. Rings are a team accomplishment. This in no way meant to take away from the two nice passes Ben made in the superbowl though one was incomplete.
 

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Cover 2;3262687 said:
If Romo were on the team they probably wouldn't need a TD in the final seconds to win the game. Although I may be a homer, but I think Romo is a much better QB then Rapelisberger. I'm sure many would disagree with the homer label though.

The Steelers had an amazing D during their Super Bowl run that I think Romo could have done well with. That and their running game. Rapelisberger was throwing less than 20 times a game during that first Super Bowl run, and I have no idea how many times he threw during the second.

I'll admit I'm ignorant to the last SB run, but on the first one he didn't look impressive at all. It seriously wouldn't surprise me if he got brain damage from the motorcycle accident listening to him talk.

I think he's an above average QB, but I think Romo is better. Pardon my ramblings. I tend to do that from time to time.

I should have just cosigned your post before posting mine. You hit it on the head.
 

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Scranton Tiger;3262083 said:
Put me down for Romo. The reason is very simple. It's true Roethlisberger has two rings but to this point he also has something else that Romo has NEVER had. A DOMINATE defense. That luxary all too often is overlooked and never should be. Big Ben can suck all day long and his defense can win the game without him. See Super Bowl 40 and countless other games since he became the starter in 2004. On the other hand if Romo plays poorly, Dallas has a ZERO chance to win the game. He doesn't always have to throw for 300 yards and 3TDs but he can't have a bad game. If he does, we lose. PERIOD. This doesn't mean I think Roethlisberger isn't any good. Obviously he is a good QB. Just has had much more to work with to this point in both their careers. Hopefully that's about to change.

I agree. People tend to forget that the Steelers won both of those Super Bowls riding a very good to dominant defense. That takes a lot of pressure off a QB.
 

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Cover 2;3262687 said:
If Romo were on the team they probably wouldn't need a TD in the final seconds to win the game. Although I may be a homer, but I think Romo is a much better QB then Rapelisberger. I'm sure many would disagree with the homer label though.

The Steelers had an amazing D during their Super Bowl run that I think Romo could have done well with. That and their running game. Rapelisberger was throwing less than 20 times a game during that first Super Bowl run, and I have no idea how many times he threw during the second.

I'll admit I'm ignorant to the last SB run, but on the first one he didn't look impressive at all. It seriously wouldn't surprise me if he got brain damage from the motorcycle accident listening to him talk.

I think he's an above average QB, but I think Romo is better. Pardon my ramblings. I tend to do that from time to time.


It's all good. We're just speculating. No one knows for sure.

Although Big Ben played awful during his first Super Bowl, he played well during the playoffs, particularly the AFC Championship Game at Denver when he threw three touchdown passes and no interceptions.

Look, I'm glad we have Romo. I just think Ben is a better quarterback - stronger and taller. And while he doesn't have the numbers as some of the great quarterbacks like Brady and Peyton Manning, I think if he were in a system like those two, he would put up equal numbers. I compare him to Aikman in that he plays in a system that values defense and the running game over the passing game. But he has proven - like Aikman - if he needs to pass to win, he can do that also.

Having said that, I expect Romo to get better (I was never too down on him even in his early years when he was careless with the ball) and expect him to win at least one Super Bowl before his career is done.
 
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