Romo should follow Brady lead

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ABQCOWBOY;5010030 said:
I'm sorry, I have taken longer then 2 minutes. I take B. We will only need 1 2-14 season, two at the very most (assuming that is what we see, a 2-14 season) and then we have a Franchise QB and we are on the way back up.

That is my opinion. Had I seen this when it was originally posted, it would only have taken me about 2 seconds to decide.

You must have forgotten how long it took between Aikman and Romo. 7 years. The last 1-2 years wasn't exactly Aikman like when he ended his career.
 

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btcutter;5010064 said:
You must have forgotten how long it took between Aikman and Romo. 7 years. The last 1-2 years wasn't exactly Aikman like when he ended his career.


You must have forgotten how many Top 5 or #1 overall picks we had and what our cap sito was between Aikman and Romo.

It's OK, seems like a lot of Cowboy fans have done that.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;5010065 said:
You must have forgotten how many Top 5 or #1 overall picks we had and what our cap sito was between Aikman and Romo.

It's OK, seems like a lot of Cowboy fans have done that.


Like you can predict for certain there will be a can't miss prospect sitting there and you also can predict they won't turn out to be Alex Smith, David Carr and the like. Lots of fan have make many assumptions.
 

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Sorry - if I'm Romo or "player xyz", I'm going to demand whatever the market is willing to pay me. While some may view it as admirable to take less for the team, in no way would i expect it or even ask a player to do so.
 

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btcutter;5010085 said:
Like you can predict for certain there will be a can't miss prospect sitting there and you also can predict they won't turn out to be Alex Smith, David Carr and the like. Lots of fan have make many assumptions.

Back at you. Like you can predict there won't be a single decent QB available to us.

Here is what I can predict. I can predict that going 2-14 will put us at the very top of the draft. In fact, 2-14 has gotten you:

2013 1st overall pick Chiefs 2-14.
2012 1st overall pick Colts 2-14.
2011 1st overall pick Panthers 2-14.
2010 1st overall pick Rams 1-15 (2-14 would have landed 2nd overall)
2009 1st overall pick Lions 0-16 (2-14 would have landed 2nd overall)
2008 1st overall pick Miami 1-15 (2-14 would have landed 2nd overall)
2007 1st ovrall pick Raiders 2-14

So, 4 out of the last 7 seasons, 2-14 would have gotten you the 1st overall pick in the NFL. 3 of the last 7 years, 2-14 would have gotten you the 2nd overall pick in the NFL.

Even if you had to go 7 years, which is highly unlikely, you would have a franchise QB and one hell of a team to go with him.
 

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JohnsKey19;5010115 said:
Sorry - if I'm Romo or "player xyz", I'm going to demand whatever the market is willing to pay me. While some may view it as admirable to take less for the team, in no way would i expect it or even ask a player to do so.


Boom Goes the Dynamite!

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ABQCOWBOY;5010030 said:
I'm sorry, I have taken longer then 2 minutes. I take B. We will only need 1 2-14 season, two at the very most (assuming that is what we see, a 2-14 season) and then we have a Franchise QB and we are on the way back up.

That is my opinion. Had I seen this when it was originally posted, it would only have taken me about 2 seconds to decide.

Oh, it only takes one bad season to get a franshise QB?


Which franchise QB is Kansas City drafting with the first pick this year?
 

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Romo's wife doesnt make $50 million plus a year, he should get what he can, while he can.
 

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At this point in his career he's probably made close to 100 mil including endorsements, he's got a trophy wife, family and the only thing he needs for peace of mind is a Super Bowl or a deep playoff run to silence the critics.

I can see him doing a cap friendly deal so we can stay competitive in FA this year, but like many have said - he and his agent have a lot of leverage, Jerry hasn't done anything 'Romo-friendly' in years, why should Romo do anything Jerry-friendly in negotiations?
 

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Beast_from_East;5010347 said:
Oh, it only takes one bad season to get a franshise QB?


Which franchise QB is Kansas City drafting with the first pick this year?
For that matter, when is last time Kansas City, Buffalo, Cleveland and many others have even had a franchise QB? 20, 30 years?
Yet they are drafting fairly high every year.
 

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Doomsday;5010459 said:
Romo's wife doesnt make $50 million plus a year, he should get what he can, while he can.

Not $50M. But she earns $45M annually per Forbes.
 

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I think its funny how some say he should take less, when those people would never entertain such thought when it comes to them.
 

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bkight13;5009892 said:
ESPN is reporting that the deal is 5/57 with 33m in guarantees(30m signing bonus paid over 3 years+3m in salaries over 2 years), the remaining 24m over the last 3 years is guaranteed for injury only. They can release him due to play or he could retire and not get paid. They could also re-do his deal at anytime in the last 3 years if he continues to play at high level. Any way you look at it he was due 33m over the next 2 years before and now will receive 18m over the next 2 years and 40/3. Whereas Brees received 55m over 2 years or 60/3.

What is clear here is this.

1. Brady is getting 33 million for two years.

2. That is a raise of about 3 million over what he would have made.

3. The Pats did not have to do this deal as Brady's contract was not expiring.

4. The Pats did this deal to create more cap space by spreading out his bonus across the next five years.

5. The final three years -- all 24 mill worth are guaranteed for injury. That is, if Brady suffers a career ending injury, he's getting all that money.

6. Brady took an additional 3 mill and a big team paid insurance policy (those last three years) in exchange for making more cap space.

7. Anyone who thinks he's playing in 2015 for 7 mill, 2016 for 8 mill, or 2017 for 9 mill is wrong. If he is still playing at a high level, he's getting another new deal.
 

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Doomsday;5010459 said:
Romo's wife doesnt make $50 million plus a year, he should get what he can, while he can.

Players need to take whatever they can get -- it is irrelevant what his wife makes. If he actually plays for 7 mill a year (which he isn't going to do), he'll screw negotiations for many other QBs in the league.
 

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AbeBeta;5010585 said:
Players need to take whatever they can get -- it is irrelevant what his wife makes. If he actually plays for 7 mill a year (which he isn't going to do), he'll screw negotiations for many other QBs in the league.

True and while I'm sure Romo will try to get the best deal he can it is also not uncommon for QB to structure a contract that can help the team out as well to free up money to help bring in talent or to keep talent. Hell Aikman did it many times yet never lost a cent in doing it.
 

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Beast_from_East;5010347 said:
Oh, it only takes one bad season to get a franshise QB?


Which franchise QB is Kansas City drafting with the first pick this year?

Whichever one they want I would guess. Or, they may trade for a QB or they may sign one. Whatever the case, it hasn't happened yet so I can't say how KC will elect to go on that.

Edit: Looks like they will not be drafting a Franchise QB with the 1st round pick. Looks as if they will be trading 2nd rounders for Smith from the 49ers.
 

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Brady got an extra $3 million for doing nothing, but it is being sold that he did some sort of gracious move to help the team out.

Romo does not have to do anything of the kind.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;5010594 said:
Whichever one they want I would guess. Or, they may trade for a QB or they may sign one. Whatever the case, it hasn't happened yet so I can't say how KC will elect to go on that.

I'll bet they trade for Alex Smith.
 

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AbeBeta;5010584 said:
What is clear here is this.

1. Brady is getting 33 million for two years.

2. That is a raise of about 3 million over what he would have made.

3. The Pats did not have to do this deal as Brady's contract was not expiring.

4. The Pats did this deal to create more cap space by spreading out his bonus across the next five years.

5. The final three years -- all 24 mill worth are guaranteed for injury. That is, if Brady suffers a career ending injury, he's getting all that money.

6. Brady took an additional 3 mill and a big team paid insurance policy (those last three years) in exchange for making more cap space.

7. Anyone who thinks he's playing in 2015 for 7 mill, 2016 for 8 mill, or 2017 for 9 mill is wrong. If he is still playing at a high level, he's getting another new deal.

Well done
 

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DFWJC;5010485 said:
For that matter, when is last time Kansas City, Buffalo, Cleveland and many others have even had a franchise QB? 20, 30 years?
Yet they are drafting fairly high every year.


I guess it depends on what you consider "High". For the purpose of this thread, I understood it to mean a pick in the 1st round based around a 2-14 finish. Now, as I have demonstrated, over the past 7 years that has translated into the 1st or 2nd pick in the draft.

For Buffalo, over the last 20 years, they have gotten the 1st or 2nd pick exactly 0 times. The worst record that they have had is 3-13 in 2001, which was good for the 4th overall pick. In 2004, they were 4-12 and that was good for the 3rd overall pick . Basically, over the past 20 years, the Bills have averaged between 7-8 wins. Basically, they win just enough to keep them outside of the premier picks. In fact, the last time they took a QB in the 1st round was Jim Kelly in 1983 out of Miami with the 14th overall pick. Of course, he went to the USFL 1st but still, I'd have to say that in the case of the Bills, the reason they don't have a QB is because they don't draft them high.

In the Case of KC, They have drafted in the top 1 or 2 picks exactly once and that will be this upcoming draft. The highest they have drafted outside of that is 3rd overall in 2009. They drafted 5th overall in 2007. Over the past 20 years, they have averaged exactly 8 wins so again, they are like Buffalo in that they win too much to get into that premium selection area and like Buffalo, they have taken no QBs in the first round in the last 20 years. The last QB they took in the 1st was Todd Blackledge in 1983, 7th overall pick. They just don't draft QBs high. Seems like KC and Buffalo are very similar in draft respects.

Cleveland, they have drafted 1 or 2 overall, over the last 20 years twice, in 2000 and in 1999. However, this team has no good excuse IMO. They have drafted in the top 10 several times over the past 20 years. 9th in 94, 3rd in 2001, 6th in 2004, 3rd in 2005, 7th in 2010, 3rd in 2012 and this year, they with draft 6th overall. If you have a case to make on drafting high and not finding a QB, this team is probably your best case scenario but again, you really have to ask yourself if it's the team or if it's the luck of the draw? 7 top 10 picks in 20 years and they have taken only one QB. That was Couch in 99. There have been plenty of good QBs they could have taken and they didn't. Again, I'd have to say that this is a team thing and not because they could not find one.
 
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