Romo should follow Nowitzki's lead (great article)

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mmurray21;2777402 said:
This article is a joke. It completely bypasses the fact that in game 3 Dirk completely stunk up the joint in the 4th quarter when the team needed him most.

Dirk went 33 and 16 in that game, but yea he should have had 35 lol...but Is that the only game of the series that you watched?

anyway, if you watched many Mavs games, you would know that DIrk has been their leading scorer in the 4th quarter over the years in the regular season and in the playoffs. If you actually looked at the facts, Nowitzki has been one of the more money players in the league over the years in the 4th quarter. However, not ALWAYS. That is basketball

The team needs Romo to play consistently well in big games. Since when has Dirk done that?

Dirk has done it his entire career. You havent been watching

LOL as far as the football comparison...I would say Nowitzki is more comparable to Donovan McNabb, and the Mavericks to the Eagles

unfortunately, Romo is more like Tracy McGrady right now (great player, but never won a playoff series because of bad luck and other factors). However, that WILL change. :)
 

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This article was good for a laugh if nothing else, the homerism was in full boil.
 

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BAT;2777289 said:
You know what Pep, I think you are going on my ignore list. Take heart, you would be my first. I mean if you are going to compare either the Heat or Hawks with the Lakers you are seriously lacking something between the ears.

To dismiss what the Rockets have done, as short handed as they have been, is completely and utterly imbecilic. And don't make it sound like what I am saying is coming completely out of left field, the Rockets/Lakers game 6 was the most watched NBA game in ESPN history. Most experts predicted the Lakers would sweep the series, and that was BEFORE Houston lost Yao Ming.

You sound like a hater to me. I still say the Cowboys would do well to emulate the hard nosed play and team oriented play of the Rockets.
Can you say drama queen??? Oh NOES I'm going on your ignore list!!!!1!

Notice you didn't answer my question. And nothing in this post refutes anything I've said.
 

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Nav22;2777336 said:
When those guys have a midget guarding them on a switch, they back them down and beat them in the post-up game. Dirk doesn't have much of a post-up arsenal, which hurts his versatility and is one of the reasons he's not a truly upper echelon player. His defense is an even bigger reason than this one. He's in the class of "very very good... but not great."
Who cares if Dirk backs down someone smaller than him? He just shoots over them, and he's pretty damned good at that. So what does it matter if he lays it in or makes it from the elbow?
 

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sms4332;2776008 said:
How many championships had Dirk won?


I think it's the same number as Romo. This article proves nothing

How many playoff wins for each. I'll even make it easier; count "playoff wins" for basketball as playoff series wins. Still favors Dirk by a long shot. THe article proves a lot.
 

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where's juckie at now? watching the Magic? watching my boy Hedo drop 10 points on em in the first half already? ;)
 

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RoadRunner;2777687 said:
How many playoff wins for each. I'll even make it easier; count "playoff wins" for basketball as playoff series wins. Still favors Dirk by a long shot. THe article proves a lot.
Playoff series wins for NBA vs. post season wins for NFL? That seems fair.

Let's take a look.

Nowitzki & the Mavericks

  1. 1998-99...Missed playoffs
  2. 1999-00...Missed playoffs
  3. 2000-01...1 series win, 1 series loss
  4. 2001-02...1 series win, 1 series loss
  5. 2002-03...2 series wins, 1 series loss
  6. 2003-04...0 series wins, 1 series loss
  7. 2004-05...1 series win, 1 series loss
  8. 2005-06...3 series wins, 1 series loss
  9. 2006-07...0 series wins, 1 series loss
  10. 2007-08...0 series wins, 1 series loss
  11. 2008-09...1 series win, 1 series loss
9-9, in the Dirk years.

So when Romo reaches year 11 as the Cowboys starting QB ( which would be 2016) he needs to win 9 post season games to be as good as Dirk per your criteria. He's 0-2 now. So in the next 8 years he needs to go 9-7.

Personally I'll take one Super Bowl over 0 NBA Championships but I am not a basketball fan anymore. I don't mean to demean the NBA when I say that.

Basically, I think Romo can win a Super Bowl, maybe even more than one if the breaks fall right. I don't think Dirk will ever win an NBA Championship (I never did), unless it is as a role player down the road, past his prime.
 

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Hostile;2777778 said:
Playoff series wins for NBA vs. post season wins for NFL? That seems fair.

Let's take a look.

Nowitzki & the Mavericks
  1. 1998-99...Missed playoffs
  2. 1999-00...Missed playoffs
  3. 2000-01...1 series win, 1 series loss
  4. 2001-02...1 series win, 1 series loss
  5. 2002-03...2 series wins, 1 series loss
  6. 2003-04...0 series wins, 1 series loss
  7. 2004-05...1 series win, 1 series loss
  8. 2005-06...3 series wins, 1 series loss
  9. 2006-07...0 series wins, 1 series loss
  10. 2007-08...0 series wins, 1 series loss
  11. 2008-09...1 series win, 1 series loss
9-9, in the Dirk years.

So when Romo reaches year 11 as the Cowboys starting QB ( which would be 2016) he needs to win 9 post season games to be as good as Dirk per your criteria. He's 0-2 now. So in the next 8 years he needs to go 9-7.

Personally I'll take one Super Bowl over 0 NBA Championships but I am not a basketball fan anymore. I don't mean to demean the NBA when I say that.

Basically, I think Romo can win a Super Bowl, maybe even more than one if the breaks fall right. I don't think Dirk will ever win an NBA Championship (I never did), unless it is as a role player down the road, past his prime.

The problem is Dirk has more heart,will,desire,want in his pinky then our celebrity QB.
 

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juckie;2777789 said:
The problem is Dirk has more heart,will,desire,want in his pinky then our celebrity QB.
Yeah, I don't agree with you and never will.
 

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casmith07;2777726 said:
where's juckie at now? watching the Magic? watching my boy Hedo drop 10 points on em in the first half already? ;)

10? wow he passed his average.lol.Are u comparing Hedo to Dirk?omg.Anyway,Hedo is going to lose tonight.And if the Magic do advance Lebron bron is going to smear them.
 

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juckie;2777792 said:
10? wow he passed his average.lol.Are u comparing Hedo to Dirk?omg.Anyway,Hedo is going to lose tonight.And if the Magic do advance Lebron bron is going to smear them.

1. his average was 13.3 ppg...guess you missed that.

2. The Magic won. Good call.

3. Hedo had 25 pts in 36 minutes, 4/5 from downtown.

You know your basketball!!!1!11!1!eleven!1 :lmao2:

edit: oh and the Magic are in the Eastern Conference Finals. I wonder what Dirk thinks of this one? You should be able to find him - he's right there in Dallas at home :lmao:
 

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casmith07;2777869 said:
1. his average was 13.3 ppg...guess you missed that.

2. The Magic won. Good call.

3. Hedo had 25 pts in 36 minutes, 4/5 from downtown.

You know your basketball!!!1!11!1!eleven!1 :lmao2:

edit: oh and the Magic are in the Eastern Conference Finals. I wonder what Dirk thinks of this one? You should be able to find him - he's right there in Dallas at home :lmao:


you are relentless and funny......if the Magic wins the semi finals for 5 years in a row it still dont make Hedu better than Dirk......so please stop you are embarrassing yourself .....ha ha any court anytime......i suppose you think you are better than Dirk too......:lmao:
 

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dadymat;2777872 said:
you are relentless and funny......if the Magic wins the semi finals for 5 years in a row it still dont make Hedu better than Dirk......so please stop you are embarrassing yourself .....ha ha any court anytime......i suppose you think you are better than Dirk too......:lmao:

I'm not saying Hedo is better as an all around player. I merely stated I would take Hedo over Dirk, and I'm furthering my point that Juckie doesn't know what he's talking about by putting out information contrary to what he has stated.

That's all :D

Cavs-Magic will be interesting. wonder what Dirk thinks from his couch :lmao:

I also wasn't aware that we had such serious Mavericks homers on this board either, sheesh!
 

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casmith07;2777879 said:
I'm not saying Hedo is better as an all around player. I merely stated I would take Hedo over Dirk, and I'm furthering my point that Juckie doesn't know what he's talking about by putting out information contrary to what he has stated.

That's all :D

Cavs-Magic will be interesting. wonder what Dirk thinks from his couch :lmao:

I also wasn't aware that we had such serious Mavericks homers on this board either, sheesh!

hes probably thinking that the Magic are lucky KG was injured......why do you act like Hedu is doing something that Dirk has never done?.....the Magic wont win it all either.....
 

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onetrickpony;2775998 said:
That's what I was wondering. It's OK for Dirk to back pack for 5 weeks with no basketball courts in site, but Romo can't play golf even though he was at practice the morning of the tournament?

Smells like a double standard to me.


:(

I don't see Dirk taking vacations to Mexico before a playoff game. Offseason is offseason. The time between the regular season and the playoffs is not offseason, Tony. Unless of course, you don't take your team to the playoffs, Tony.
 

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The Dirk homerism is hilarious. The guy choked when it mattered and the Mavs' window is now closed.

Period.

He is what he is. A good but not great player who isn't good enough to win a title as the alpha dog. His defensive mediocrity will forever cement this reality. He had a championship window, yet choked when the opportunity arose.

He blew the Finals despite a 2-0 lead and a double digit lead in game 3 squandered in roughly 4 minutes. A 3-0 edge would've all but ended the series... instead, Miami came back to win, and they didn't lose again.

Cry about the officiating all you want, though. Now I know that Mavs homers are the NBA equivalent of Commanders homers.
WATCH.THE.GAMES.
I do, and I don't do it with homer glasses on like you do.

The excuses made for the collapse against Golden State had me laughing out loud. Yeah, Nellie knew how to stop Dirk all right. And he even knew how to do it with midgets (compared to Dirk) in Matt Barnes and Baron Davis.

I don't care what coach you're playing against. If you're 7 feet tall... and you can't take advantage of smaller guys like Stephen Jackson, Matt Barnes, or Baron Davis defending you... then something's wrong.

And something's ridiculously wrong when a 67 win team bows out in the 1st round against an 8th seed, in 6 games no less.

Michael Jordan
Hakeem Olajuwon
Tim Duncan
Shaquille O'Neal/Kobe Bryant
Dwyane Wade
Kevin Garnett

Those are the best players on the Championship teams since 1990, with the exception of the 2003-04 Pistons who had a ridiculously good defense, which made up for their lack of a true #1 offensive threat.

Is Dirk as good a player as ANY of these guys? No, he is not. Is Dirk even close to as good a defender as ANY of these guys? No, he is not.

His empty trophy case supports that notion, and also supports the notion that he needs to be a complementary weapon in order to win a title.

There's no shame in that. Either Pau Gasol or Mo Williams, both All-Stars, will win a championship this year as a very good complementary threat.
 

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Nav22;2778036 said:
The Dirk homerism is hilarious. The guy choked when it mattered and the Mavs' window is now closed.

Period.

He is what he is. A good but not great player who isn't good enough to win a title as the alpha dog. His defensive mediocrity will forever cement this reality. He had a championship window, yet choked when the opportunity arose.

He blew the Finals despite a 2-0 lead and a double digit lead in game 3 squandered in roughly 4 minutes. A 3-0 edge would've all but ended the series... instead, Miami came back to win, and they didn't lose again.

Cry about the officiating all you want, though. Now I know that Mavs homers are the NBA equivalent of Commanders homers.I do, and I don't do it with homer glasses on like you do.

The excuses made for the collapse against Golden State had me laughing out loud. Yeah, Nellie knew how to stop Dirk all right. And he even knew how to do it with midgets (compared to Dirk) in Matt Barnes and Baron Davis.

I don't care what coach you're playing against. If you're 7 feet tall... and you can't take advantage of smaller guys like Stephen Jackson, Matt Barnes, or Baron Davis defending you... then something's wrong.

And something's ridiculously wrong when a 67 win team bows out in the 1st round against an 8th seed, in 6 games no less.

Michael Jordan
Hakeem Olajuwon
Tim Duncan
Shaquille O'Neal/Kobe Bryant
Dwyane Wade
Kevin Garnett

Those are the best players on the Championship teams since 1990, with the exception of the 2003-04 Pistons who had a ridiculously good defense.

Is Dirk as good a player as ANY of these guys? No, he is not. Is Dirk even close to as good a defender as ANY of these guys? No, he is not.

His empty trophy case supports that notion, and also supports the notion that he needs to be a complementary weapon in order to win a title.

There's no shame in that. Either Pau Gasol or Mo Williams, both All-Stars, will win a championship this year as a very good complementary threat.

I completely agree with the homerism comment. Does Romo get a pass for the curiously "slick" ball or the phantom Crayton drop like the big Dirk does for bad officiating?

A loss is a loss, and a choke is a choke. Both these guys have plenty on their resume.

To Dirk's credit, he's been an All-Star caliber player much longer than Romo has, and he's taken his team to playoff-series victories. He has accomplished more than Romo. There's no denying that.

But when one attempts to forecast what he hopes Romo can become, I doubt the phrase, "If only he can be like Dirk" comes to mind.
 

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RainMan;2778037 said:
But when one attempts to forecast what he hopes Romo can become, I doubt the phrase, "If only he can be like Dirk" comes to mind.

I agree with all Nav said, and I especially agree with the above emboldened comment.
 

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juckie;2777789 said:
The problem is Dirk has more heart,will,desire,want in his pinky then our celebrity QB.

Why? Cause he punches exercise bikes after a loss like a 6 year old that didn't get ice cream for breakfast?

Sometimes I'm not happy with the way Romo reacts to losses or his body language during them, but the last thing he needs is to start throwing tantrums like Dirk.
 
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