Romo Stats Not Stans

Idgit said:
Well, note that I'm not saying we should abandon the run. I'm saying balance isn't what wins games. There are still definitely situations where you have to run the football, even when you're not doing it particularly effectively. And I'd agree that we don't always run it in those situations, and that that's hurt us. But that's because you have to run in some situations to setup the pass. Or you run in some situations because it's a safe play that's high-probability. Not because 'balance' matters when it comes to winning or losing football games.
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We just disagree. Balance, IMO, is what wins games. None execution is what loses games. Those are two different things.
 
ufcrules1 said:
He also had a playoff run that hasn't been seen the likes of Montana. I don't care about regular season stats.. I care about the playoffs and superbowls. Stats can be very misleading.. Eli and Flacco proved that.
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So you care about small sample sizes and good fortune over sustained success over long periods of time?

Interesting way to live life.
 
ABQCOWBOY said:
We just disagree. Balance, IMO, is what wins games. None execution is what loses games. Those are two different things.
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+1

The Cowboys record when they have balance vs their record when they get pass happy pretty much attest to this statement. Its hard to argue with wins and losses.
 
Anyone that thinks Alex Smith is a better QB than Tony Romo does not have a grasp on football, or reality for that matter. Blindly hatin'.
 
PA Cowboy Fan said:
Romo was great yesterday but he's done that before. Let's see what he does next week. Better yet, let's see what happens in December and January.
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Do the people who say "lets see Romo in December" not watch the games or something? The guy is consistently one of, if not the, highest rated QB in the month of December.
 
ABQCOWBOY said:
We just disagree. Balance, IMO, is what wins games. None execution is what loses games. Those are two different things.
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That's fair.

I just felt the need to clarify that I do agree that there are situations where we should be using runs where we don't always do it. I downplay the importance of an effective running game a lot, but it doesn't mean that I think running the ball is not important in the right situations.
 
Idgit said:
That's fair.

I just felt the need to clarify that I do agree that there are situations where we should be using runs where we don't always do it. I downplay the importance of an effective running game a lot, but it doesn't mean that I think running the ball is not important in the right situations.
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Idgit, I hope you know that I respect your opinion as much as anybody on this board and I can say that about you, even before you became a MOD. One has nothing to do with the other. I just feel pretty strongly about this issue and how important it is to our team.

Right or wrong, that's what I believe.
 
Running isn't what keeps the defense fresh, first downs are, and most of the time, if the Cowboys stuck to the run with their 2 yard average, then the defense would be wore out by halftime.
 
I am not sure who wrote that he was having one of his best seasons ever so far but that is a silly statement if meant seriously. He probably has the lowest average per attempt of his career and the lowest number of big plays. The only thing he has done better is 1 interception which some may be more excited about that others. While I am excited about it, I would be more excited if it came with bigger plays downfield - which you need to win in the NFL these days. We got a lot of the big plays yesterday in the running game which made up for it.

I think Romo is playing too cautious - and I did not get to watch the game yesterday. There were a few times in the KC game where Romo needed to see if Dez could make a play by throwing it up to him in 1-1 situations. I know Dez dropped the one ball but Romo never went back to him after that but threw a ton of passes in the flat in longer yardage situations.

The Romo of 2007 is the best he ever played IMO because he was having fun playing football. The garbage with the Giants playoff loss and the Vacation to Mexico changed Romo negatively IMO. I have been one of his biggest supporters and have loved watching him play for the last 6 years or so. I don't like so far what the performance vs Washington last year has seemed to do to him either as it seems to have made him more cautious. I hope he opens it back up!
 
aikemirv said:
I am not sure who wrote that he was having one of his best seasons ever so far but that is a silly statement if meant seriously.
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I mentioned that, SO FAR, he MAY BE having his best season ever. And SO FAR, he is. He's top 5 is every major category except yards, while not turning the ball over at all.
 
ChldsPlay said:
Running isn't what keeps the defense fresh, first downs are, and most of the time, if the Cowboys stuck to the run with their 2 yard average, then the defense would be wore out by halftime.
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Running does keep the Defense fresh but more importantly, it keeps the OL fresh. However, I get what you are saying. If you are three and out, then you are three and out but, on a running play, the clock keeps moving so in reality, a three and out in the run game, as opposed to the passing game, does provide the defense with more time to rest.

However, your point is well taken.
 
ABQCOWBOY said:
Idgit, I hope you know that I respect your opinion as much as anybody on this board and I can say that about you, even before you became a MOD. One has nothing to do with the other. I just feel pretty strongly about this issue and how important it is to our team.

Right or wrong, that's what I believe.
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I love you to, man.
And, yeah, the feeling's mutual, and it's just a matter of a differing analysis. I"m enjoying the debate entirely. My take on the running game is easy to misunderstand, and it spans many many threads, so I try to be as specific as possible since the repetition starts to add up, eventually. :)
 
aikemirv said:
I am not sure who wrote that he was having one of his best seasons ever so far but that is a silly statement if meant seriously. He probably has the lowest average per attempt of his career and the lowest number of big plays. The only thing he has done better is 1 interception which some may be more excited about that others. While I am excited about it, I would be more excited if it came with bigger plays downfield - which you need to win in the NFL these days. We got a lot of the big plays yesterday in the running game which made up for it.

I think Romo is playing too cautious - and I did not get to watch the game yesterday. There were a few times in the KC game where Romo needed to see if Dez could make a play by throwing it up to him in 1-1 situations. I know Dez dropped the one ball but Romo never went back to him after that but threw a ton of passes in the flat in longer yardage situations.

The Romo of 2007 is the best he ever played IMO because he was having fun playing football. The garbage with the Giants playoff loss and the Vacation to Mexico changed Romo negatively IMO. I have been one of his biggest supporters and have loved watching him play for the last 6 years or so. I don't like so far what the performance vs Washington last year has seemed to do to him either as it seems to have made him more cautious. I hope he opens it back up!
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For the Rams, I felt like he played very, very well.

For the Chiefs game; if you are going to make the decision to pass over 70% of the time AND you are getting solid pass protection, you have to force them to defend the entire field. I don't know if it's our routes or a more conservative game plan, but you have to show that you are liable to throw some balls deep and down the middle. This may mean a lower completion percentage and a pick sometimes, but that has to be an acceptable conclusion when you become pass first.
 
ufcrules1 said:
I agree about it being a somewhat lucky win against Denver.. and yeah, we can say he had a wonderful running back and Oline.. but at the end of the day, nobody can deny how well Flacco played. Again, he put up Montanta stats in that playoff run.
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Flacco is the Jim Plunkett of his era!!!
 
Jenky said:
Agreed. How do you beat Alex Smith? Make him play catch up, cause he can't. Then you'll expose all of his weaknesses. His NFC playoff game against the Giants a couple of seasons ago was comical. He couldn't complete a pass to save his life.

Right now Alex Smith is sitting comfortably. His game against the Eagles was a snoozer. All hail the "Check Down" king.
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Right, and how did that work against the first 3 teams he played this year?
 
ufcrules1 said:
Yeah, because we have had long sustained success with Romo?
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We have had long sustained excellence at QB since Romo became the starting QB.

Thankfully now we are starting to give him a defense and offensive line.

For all the Romo haters...realize he was play with no oline, no running game and no defense.

How is that working out for Eli?

Did Romo ever look as bad?
 
Jenky said:
Not sure I understand what you're saying. The first 3 teams really didn't take him out of his comfort zone.

Alex Smith's career record when the opponent scores at least 24 points:

2-27-1
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Alex played on a pretty attrocious team when he first started in the NFL, so that random stat you pulled out doesn't mean a whole lot to me. Anyway, I never meant to have a discussion about Alex Smith and Flacco vs. Romo. Some guy obsessed with Romo started that on the first page of this thread. If someone asked me who I would rather QB our team in order.. I would "personally" rank them Flacco, Smith, and then Romo. Just my opinion. I don't really care if anyone agrees with me or not. Although I don't care for Romo, it doesn't stop me from rooting for him and the team to win. Romo played average to below average vs. the Giants, he played like crap against the Chiefs, and he played wonderfully against the Rams. Not really a reason for anyone to say pound their chest and say.. "I told ya so".
 
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