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Don't change the subject. You said you would take Smith over Romo. You'd be the only GM in the league that would do so IMO.

Yes, that is nothing more than your opinion and it changes nothing and doesn't make it true.

I do think Smith can be a better than avg player and if you put the right guys around him he can help you. But even in our game with them he missed a lot of passes that Romo could do with his eyes closed.

And yet he still out played Romo by not making the same mental mistakes Romo did. Romo did 2 major things that hurt us, fumbled the ball away and completely ignored Dez at the goal line in a 1-1. That could easily be the difference in the game. You know, the same mental mistakes he makes EVERY year and hasn't learned from?

He does not throw well on the move IMO. He's not that accurate or consistent. I hope the guy goes to the HOF. Great for him. Right now he's not going to be mentioned in the same breath as Romo who for most people who know the game is an elite talent.

I don't care if he goes to the hall of fame or not, I can care less about Alex Smith. That does't change the fact that I think he is currently just as good if not better than Romo. Sure, Romo at times can play elite.. but he is far from being an elite QB and folds in the most important games. Did you forget Washington last year? Who was our weakest link in that game again? Saying Romo is elite is a huge insult to players like Brady, Rodgers, Manning, and Brees. He is nowhere remotely close to these guys.
 

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Yes, that is nothing more than your opinion and it changes nothing and doesn't make it true.



And yet he still out played Romo by not making the same mental mistakes Romo did. Romo did 2 major things that hurt us, fumbled the ball away and completely ignored Dez at the goal line in a 1-1. That could easily be the difference in the game. You know, the same mental mistakes he makes EVERY year and hasn't learned from?



I don't care if he goes to the hall of fame or not, I can care less about Alex Smith. That does't change the fact that I think he is currently just as good if not better than Romo. Sure, Romo at times can play elite.. but he is far from being an elite QB and folds in the most important games. Did you forget Washington last year? Who was our weakest link in that game again? Saying Romo is elite is a huge insult to players like Brady, Rodgers, Manning, and Brees. He is nowhere remotely close to these guys.

 

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Oh right, because despite Romo's 7+ years of playing the position at a high level, you simply can't move past the silly notion that QBs win and lose games by themselves.

Tebow must've impressed you in 2011. I'll bet he did.

I have no idea what you are talking about. If you think Romo hasn't played a role in this teams failures over the years and it is just everyone around him.. well, I just simply don't know what to tell you.
 

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Should Murray get his 25 carries even if he only picks up 25 yards on his first 15 carries? What if we're down 10 and our run game failures keep killing our drives? That's the problem with this "stick to the run" mentality... it's not always feasible.

I'm of the belief that Romo/Garrett/Callahan would LOVE to be able to rely on the run game but they lose confidence in it if it doesn't work out. When Romo's able to go playaction and the D is forced to actually respect the run, he's unstoppable.

A run for no gain is essentially a wasted down (unless you're trying to grind out the clock). Why would you keep going to that when you have Romo, Witten, Dez, and a capable pass-blocking OL?

Yes, we should stick to the run IMO but nobody says it has to be Murray carrying the ball. If it's Dunbar or Tanner or Randle, then that's also OK. The idea is not to stick to a back that is not effective. The idea is to make the running game a staple of your offense. It's not always going to get you the results you desire but if you commit to it and you acquire the necessary personnel, it will work for you. It will help all phases of the game. You can't just say, forget it, we are going to the pass after 12 attempts. That's giving up and especially when you are not way down to the opposition.
 

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Smith has 783 total yards to Romo's 773
Romo completion % 72.2 to Smith 61.0
Romo 6 TD's to Smith 's 4
Romo 1 int to Smiths 0
Romo 1 lost fumble to Smith's 0

And Smith is learning a new system.

Not too much difference if you ask me.

And yes, I'd take Smith over Romo at this stage of their careers in a heartbeat.

Ok, since you want to bring up individual stats, let's look at their body of work through out their entire career. It'd be foolish to base this comparison off of 3 games, which is what you're trying to do. I put Tom Brady in the mix for comparison purposes just to see how these QBs compare. I bolded which QB leads a certain category, and I underlined which QB is last in that same category.

STATS ------------------/Alex Smith--------/ Tony Romo--------/ Tom Brady
Cmp% -----------------/59.3%--------------/ 65%-----------------/ 63.6%
TD% -------------------/3.7%---------------/ 5.5%----------------/ 5.6%
INT% -----------------/2.8%---------------/ 2.7%----------------/ 2.1%
Y/A ------------------/6.6------------------/ 7.9-------------------/ 7.5
Y/C -----------------/11.0----------------/ 12.2-----------------/ 11.8
Y/G ----------------/192----------------/ 276------------------/ 277
Rating -----------/79.7---------------/ 95.9-----------------/ 96.3

So what do these statistics show? That Romo is more accurate, throws more touchdowns per pass attempted, throws less interceptions per pass attempted, has a higher yards per attempt, has a higher a yards per completion, has more yards per game, throws down the field more instead of check downs, and he also has the higher overall QB rating. And It's not even close really, it's only close to those who are so blinded with their hate for Romo. Alex Smith is a game manager, he's an average QB who has always relied on his defense and running game to carry him through games.

Heck, Romo is closer to Tom Brady's level then Alex Smith is closer to Tony Romo's level, so please, just stop this ignorant non sense. You're making yourself seem rather foolish by actually trying to make this a debate, because even a KC fan will tell you they'll take Romo over Smith any day of the week. Even Romo at 70% with banged up ribs is better then Alex Smith, and this year has proven that.
 

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Ok, since you want to bring up individual stats, let's look at their body of work through out their entire career. It'd be foolish to base this comparison off of 3 games, which is what you're trying to do. I put Tom Brady in the mix for comparison purposes just to see how these QBs compare. I bolded which QB leads a certain category, and I underlined which QB is last in that same category.

STATS ------------------/Alex Smith--------/ Tony Romo--------/ Tom Brady
Cmp% -----------------/59.3%--------------/ 65%-----------------/ 63.6%
TD% -------------------/3.7%---------------/ 5.5%----------------/ 5.6%
INT% -----------------/2.8%---------------/ 2.7%----------------/ 2.1%
Y/A ------------------/6.6------------------/ 7.9-------------------/ 7.5
Y/C -----------------/11.0----------------/ 12.2-----------------/ 11.8
Y/G ----------------/192----------------/ 276------------------/ 277
Rating -----------/79.7---------------/ 95.9-----------------/ 96.3

So what do these statistics show? That Romo is more accurate, throws more touchdowns per pass attempted, throws less interceptions per pass attempted, has a higher yards per attempt, has a higher a yards per completion, has more yards per game, throws down the field more instead of check downs, and he also has the higher overall QB rating. And It's not even close really, it's only close to those who are so blinded with their hate for Romo. Alex Smith is a game manager, he's an average QB who has always relied on his defense and running game to carry him through games.

Heck, Romo is closer to Tom Brady's level then Alex Smith is closer to Tony Romo's level, so please, just stop this ignorant non sense. You're making yourself seem rather foolish by actually trying to make this a debate, because even a KC fan will tell you they'll take Romo over Smith any day of the week. Even Romo at 70% with banged up ribs is better then Alex Smith, and this year has proven that.

So by your estimation, Tony is in the same tier as Brady? Talk about being foolish! Never even mention Romo in the same sentence as Brady, or no one will ever take you seriously. Anybody that has watched Romo fail so many times over the years knows he is what he is. A choker. I'm betting you are WAY off on saying KC fans would take Romo over Smith. Why would they? At least with Smith they THINK they can win a playoff game. With Romo, they KNOW they can't. Proof of that fact is in his resume.

All I want is for my Cowboys to be contenders again. And I've seen enough to know, that ain't happening with Romo at them helm. So yes, I would take Smith today if we could get him. Think for a minute and then tell me, what do we have to lose? I'll give you a hint. NOTHING! Because we are never winning with Romo.
 

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Ok, since you want to bring up individual stats, let's look at their body of work through out their entire career. It'd be foolish to base this comparison off of 3 games, which is what you're trying to do. I put Tom Brady in the mix for comparison purposes just to see how these QBs compare. I bolded which QB leads a certain category, and I underlined which QB is last in that same category.

STATS ------------------/Alex Smith--------/ Tony Romo--------/ Tom Brady
Cmp% -----------------/59.3%--------------/ 65%-----------------/ 63.6%
TD% -------------------/3.7%---------------/ 5.5%----------------/ 5.6%
INT% -----------------/2.8%---------------/ 2.7%----------------/ 2.1%
Y/A ------------------/6.6------------------/ 7.9-------------------/ 7.5
Y/C -----------------/11.0----------------/ 12.2-----------------/ 11.8
Y/G ----------------/192----------------/ 276------------------/ 277
Rating -----------/79.7---------------/ 95.9-----------------/ 96.3

So what do these statistics show? That Romo is more accurate, throws more touchdowns per pass attempted, throws less interceptions per pass attempted, has a higher yards per attempt, has a higher a yards per completion, has more yards per game, throws down the field more instead of check downs, and he also has the higher overall QB rating. And It's not even close really, it's only close to those who are so blinded with their hate for Romo. Alex Smith is a game manager, he's an average QB who has always relied on his defense and running game to carry him through games.

Heck, Romo is closer to Tom Brady's level then Alex Smith is closer to Tony Romo's level, so please, just stop this ignorant non sense. You're making yourself seem rather foolish by actually trying to make this a debate, because even a KC fan will tell you they'll take Romo over Smith any day of the week. Even Romo at 70% with banged up ribs is better then Alex Smith, and this year has proven that.

And here we go again with the stats. Does Romo have better stats than Eli and Flacco too? Yes he does, did they play a big role in their teams winning the super bowls? Yes they did. Some of you will go to your graves talking about Romo's stats... and at the end of the day he will be known as the QB that wigged out on game day in the win and go home games. That is what he is KNOWN for right now. Until he changes that, nobody will care! Well.. maybe a few stans will.
 

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So by your estimation, Tony is in the same tier as Brady? Talk about being foolish! Never even mention Romo in the same sentence as Brady, or no one will ever take you seriously.
Who said Tony is on the same tier as Brady? Please show me where I said that, because what I SAID was, "Romo is closer to Tom Brady's level then Alex Smith is closer to Tony Romo's level". I don't see why you're trying to twist my words, probably because you can't back your post that Alex Smith is better then Romo. Keep grasping at straws dude, because as of right now you're making yourself seem clueless.

Anybody that has watched Romo fail so many times over the years knows he is what he is. A choker. I'm betting you are WAY off on saying KC fans would take Romo over Smith. Why would they? At least with Smith they THINK they can win a playoff game. With Romo, they KNOW they can't. Proof of that fact is in his resume.
Do you understand why Romo has failed to make the playoffs? Because from what you just posted shows how clueless you really are, again.

All I want is for my Cowboys to be contenders again. And I've seen enough to know, that ain't happening with Romo at them helm. So yes, I would take Smith today if we could get him. Think for a minute and then tell me, what do we have to lose? I'll give you a hint. NOTHING! Because we are never winning with Romo.

Don't blame it on the horrible o-line, defense, running game, or management, no lets blame it on our QB who has been consistently one of the best at his position. Also, just to validate my point on how good our QB really is, look at how he's performed over the past years with no o-line, defense, or running game. Now, go look at how the two "elite" QBs are performing in New York and Pittsburgh under the same conditions, I'll give you a hint, both teams are 0-3.
 

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LOL at the stats crowd, same people that say Big Ben sucks look at his stats he just won Super Bowls by luck, same with Flacco, same with Eli etc. Wake me up when they start handing out Super Bowls out for the best stats.
 

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Yes, I would still take Smith & Flacco over Romo. I'm glad Romo had a good game though and I hope it can continue, because that means my team is winning.
Flacco could be debatable (although not for me) Alex Smith is just plain ridiculous.
 

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LOL at the stats crowd, same people that say Big Ben sucks look at his stats he just won Super Bowls by luck, same with Flacco, same with Eli etc. Wake me up when they start handing out Super Bowls out for the best stats.

LOL. What have Eli and Ben done this year now that they don't have solid teams? Oh yah, they're 0-3. Teams win Super Bowls, not QBs, because if it were just QBs then Aaron Rodgers would win every year.
 

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LOL. What have Eli and Ben done this year now that they don't have solid teams? Oh yah, they're 0-3. Teams win Super Bowls, not QBs, because if it were just QBs then Aaron Rodgers would win every year.


Hmm...what has SF done this year now that they don't have Alex Smith????
 

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Ok, since you want to bring up individual stats, let's look at their body of work through out their entire career. It'd be foolish to base this comparison off of 3 games, which is what you're trying to do. I put Tom Brady in the mix for comparison purposes just to see how these QBs compare. I bolded which QB leads a certain category, and I underlined which QB is last in that same category.

STATS ------------------/Alex Smith--------/ Tony Romo--------/ Tom Brady
Cmp% -----------------/59.3%--------------/ 65%-----------------/ 63.6%
TD% -------------------/3.7%---------------/ 5.5%----------------/ 5.6%
INT% -----------------/2.8%---------------/ 2.7%----------------/ 2.1%
Y/A ------------------/6.6------------------/ 7.9-------------------/ 7.5
Y/C -----------------/11.0----------------/ 12.2-----------------/ 11.8
Y/G ----------------/192----------------/ 276------------------/ 277
Rating -----------/79.7---------------/ 95.9-----------------/ 96.3

So what do these statistics show? That Romo is more accurate, throws more touchdowns per pass attempted, throws less interceptions per pass attempted, has a higher yards per attempt, has a higher a yards per completion, has more yards per game, throws down the field more instead of check downs, and he also has the higher overall QB rating. And It's not even close really, it's only close to those who are so blinded with their hate for Romo. Alex Smith is a game manager, he's an average QB who has always relied on his defense and running game to carry him through games.

Heck, Romo is closer to Tom Brady's level then Alex Smith is closer to Tony Romo's level, so please, just stop this ignorant non sense. You're making yourself seem rather foolish by actually trying to make this a debate, because even a KC fan will tell you they'll take Romo over Smith any day of the week. Even Romo at 70% with banged up ribs is better then Alex Smith, and this year has proven that.

Dang that was a slapdown! I love it when facts show up around these parts to put the loonies in their place
 

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Ok, since you want to bring up individual stats, let's look at their body of work through out their entire career. It'd be foolish to base this comparison off of 3 games, which is what you're trying to do. I put Tom Brady in the mix for comparison purposes just to see how these QBs compare. I bolded which QB leads a certain category, and I underlined which QB is last in that same category.

STATS ------------------/Alex Smith--------/ Tony Romo--------/ Tom Brady
Cmp% -----------------/59.3%--------------/ 65%-----------------/ 63.6%
TD% -------------------/3.7%---------------/ 5.5%----------------/ 5.6%
INT% -----------------/2.8%---------------/ 2.7%----------------/ 2.1%
Y/A ------------------/6.6------------------/ 7.9-------------------/ 7.5
Y/C -----------------/11.0----------------/ 12.2-----------------/ 11.8
Y/G ----------------/192----------------/ 276------------------/ 277
Rating -----------/79.7---------------/ 95.9-----------------/ 96.3

So what do these statistics show? That Romo is more accurate, throws more touchdowns per pass attempted, throws less interceptions per pass attempted, has a higher yards per attempt, has a higher a yards per completion, has more yards per game, throws down the field more instead of check downs, and he also has the higher overall QB rating. And It's not even close really, it's only close to those who are so blinded with their hate for Romo. Alex Smith is a game manager, he's an average QB who has always relied on his defense and running game to carry him through games.

Heck, Romo is closer to Tom Brady's level then Alex Smith is closer to Tony Romo's level, so please, just stop this ignorant non sense. You're making yourself seem rather foolish by actually trying to make this a debate, because even a KC fan will tell you they'll take Romo over Smith any day of the week. Even Romo at 70% with banged up ribs is better then Alex Smith, and this year has proven that.

Not much. Look at stats since 2011 and that would be a much better comparison for each player. Too much changes if you go back to the beginning of each players career. The game is not even the same.
 
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