Romo Stats Not Stans

[ufcrules1]

LOL at the stats crowd, same people that say Big Ben sucks look at his stats he just won Super Bowls by luck, same with Flacco, same with Eli etc. Wake me up when they start handing out Super Bowls out for the best stats.

They will just say it was their teams and that the QB has nothing to do with it. That is how they justify Romo not leading his team anywhere. I'm not sure how they explain that Washington game last season though when Romo choked and was the weakest link of the whole team.

We always have to play the stats game with Romo because that is all he has. Win or go home games? Don't look at him. Post season success? Nope, won't find any of that here either. Blame the coaches, blame the Oline, blame the dumb receivers, blame the running game, blame Jerry, but don't you dare blame Romo for anything.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Alex Smith must be better than Kaepernick too.

Well, to be fare, not sure any of us know what Kaepernick is just yet. I think we can all see the athleticism there but honestly, he came in towards the end of the season last year and teams really did not have time to break him down. This year, he has not had the kind of success he had last year. Jury may still be out on Kaepernick.

 

[Jenky]

Well, to be fare, not sure any of us know what Kaepernick is just yet. I think we can all see the athleticism there but honestly, he came in towards the end of the season last year and teams really did not have time to break him down. This year, he has not had the kind of success he had last year. Jury may still be out on Kaepernick.

I can respect this answer. IMO, he's played 3 very good teams, even though their records might not indicate it. He's also missing some offensive weapons and the team a took a step back in terms of talent even though they are still up there.

But, if the 9ers TRULY believed he [Smith] was a better player they would have kept him and let him keep his starting job once he was back.

 

[Nav22]

I have no idea what you are talking about. If you think Romo hasn't played a role in this teams failures over the years and it is just everyone around him.. well, I just simply don't know what to tell you.

Everyone "plays a role" in everything, that's why it's called a team sport.

DeMarcus Ware, Jason Witten, Dez Bryant, and Sean Lee have all played roles in our failures as well. But I don't see you ripping those guys. Probably because you're smart enough to know that they're good players who generally help us far more than they hurt us.

But you're not quite sharp enough to apply the same logic to Romo. It's really a shame because this is truly elementary stuff we're talking about.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I can respect this answer. IMO, he's played 3 very good teams, even though their records might not indicate it. He's also missing some offensive weapons and the team a took a step back in terms of talent even though they are still up there.

But, if the 9ers TRULY believed he [Smith] was a better player they would have kept him and let him keep his starting job once he was back.

I think it's fare to say that the 49ers made a decision between the two but I don't know that it means much, with regards to a discussion on Romo and Smith. Smith would have cost the 49ers a significant amount of cash. Kaepernick had a lot of upside and he was cheaper. I can see why the 49ers did what they did but I am not ready to say that it was because Smith was no good. I think it was probably a pretty tough call for San Fran but who knows?

 

[ufcrules1]

I can respect this answer. IMO, he's played 3 very good teams, even though their records might not indicate it. He's also missing some offensive weapons and the team a took a step back in terms of talent even though they are still up there.

But, if the 9ers TRULY believed he [Smith] was a better player they would have kept him and let him keep his starting job once he was back.

Yeah, they truly believed Kap was better but does that mean they were right? Jury is still out on that. I personally think Kap is better but I don't know that for sure yet. The Seattle game was understandable..playing in Seattle is super tough and he had tons of pressure all night. The Colts game he was missing Vernon Davis, so besides Boldin the only other targets are rookies. With that said, he still played bad. The Colts showed up that game to play and the 49'ers didn't, including Kap. The Packers game he was on absolute fire. We still need more time to judge him.

Alex is a different story.. he appears to be getting better and better IMO.

 

[ufcrules1]

Everyone "plays a role" in everything, that's why it's called a team sport.

DeMarcus Ware, Jason Witten, Dez Bryant, and Sean Lee have all played roles in our failures as well. But I don't see you ripping those guys. Probably because you're smart enough to know that they're good players who generally help us far more than they hurt us.

But you're not quite sharp enough to apply the same logic to Romo. It's really a shame because this is truly elementary stuff we're talking about.

Not true at all. I have ripped on all of them at one time or another. Romo just happens to be a player that is hotly debated and for good reason. Some think he is the greatest thing that ever happened to the Cowboys and others have a more negative view on him and want us to start looking for his replacement. I'm sorry that you are in the opposite camp as me and that is hard for you to deal with.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I think it's fair to point out that you win as a team and you lose as a team. Every player must do his job. On the other hand, the QB is the most key player on both sides of the ball. The QB can effect wins and losses more then any other player on the field. They get the most credit and they get the most blame and each is well deserved.

 

[ccb04]

Alex Smith was considered a 1st round bust on a bad to mediocre 49'ers team. Then Davis started to come around, they added 3 1st round picks to the OL, drafted Crabtree, the D steps up, etc...and Smith becomes more efficient under Big Jim AND with talent around him. He is a 'mobile' bus driver. He's continued to play pretty well with KC, a team that has a good OL, a very solid back, several talented players on D, sound kicking games to help field position, etc.

Most ANY QB benefits from those around them...period. Romo did screw up in the Skins game last year no doubt. And he deserved criticism for it. But again, there have been other games (to include playoff losses), where other players mistakes were just as crucial, if not more so. Some can't or simply won't, acknowledge that when it comes to Romo.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Alex Smith was considered a 1st round bust on a bad to mediocre 49'ers team. Then Davis started to come around, they added 3 1st round picks to the OL, drafted Crabtree, the D steps up, etc...and Smith becomes more efficient under Big Jim AND with talent around him. He is a 'mobile' bus driver. He's continued to play pretty well with KC, a team that has a good OL, a very solid back, several talented players on D, sound kicking games to help field position, etc.

Most ANY QB benefits from those around them...period. Romo did screw up in the Skins game last year no doubt. And he deserved criticism for it. But again, there have been other games (to include playoff losses), where other players mistakes were just as crucial, if not more so. Some can't or simply won't, acknowledge that when it comes to Romo.

I think the reverse can be said as well.

 

[ufcrules1]

Most ANY QB benefits from those around them...period. Romo did screw up in the Skins game last year no doubt. And he deserved criticism for it. But again, there have been other games (to include playoff losses), where other players mistakes were just as crucial, if not more so. Some can't or simply won't, acknowledge that when it comes to Romo.

As long as we are agreeing that Romo has also played a role in this teams lack of success here, I would say we are both on the same page.

 

[Vtwin]

Yeah, they truly believed Kap was better but does that mean they were right? Jury is still out on that. I personally think Kap is better but I don't know that for sure yet. The Seattle game was understandable..playing in Seattle is super tough and he had tons of pressure all night. The Colts game he was missing Vernon Davis, so besides Boldin the only other targets are rookies. With that said, he still played bad. The Colts showed up that game to play and the 49'ers didn't, including Kap. The Packers game he was on absolute fire. We still need more time to judge him.

Alex is a different story.. he appears to be getting better and better IMO.

What a coincidence. Just about the time he has a very good defense and a good running game.

Imagine that.

27th in passing yards if I'm not mistaken.

 

[ccb04]

I think the reverse can be said as well.

I would say it's more of a rarity than the other way around. How many QB's look great without a decent OL, WR's, running game, etc.?

Just look at who some of the greatest QB's in history have played with. Brady is capable of making lesser players better, but he also had his best statistical season with Moss & Welker in the fold.

Romo has taken advantage of playing with top talent like TO. When he was here, I believe they were the top WR/QB tandem in the league TD wise. Additionally, fringe guys like Patrick Crayton & Laurent Robinson enjoyed the best years of their careers with Romo throwing to them.

As I said, Romo has no doubt cost the team some games. But he's also done a lot of good things for the franchise and has taken the heat when the fire should have also been burning under some of his teammates. I understand it's the nature of the position to an extent...but it seems unfairly so at times with him.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

But again, there have been other games (to include playoff losses), where other players mistakes were just as crucial, if not more so. Some can't or simply won't, acknowledge that when it comes to Romo.

I was actually referring to this statement.

 

[ufcrules1]

What a coincidence. Just about the time he has a very good defense and a good running game.

Imagine that.

27th in passing yards if I'm not mistaken.

Right, Alex isn't playing any role in that teams success either. He is making dumb mental mistakes and turning the ball over etc. His team just bails him out all the time.

It doesn't matter how much a QB passes, it matters if he helps lead his team to victory or not. Alex is doing just that in KC.

 

[Corso]

Wow...
This thread has been popcorn worthy!

Good job, guys!

 

[5Stars]

Wow...
This thread has been popcorn worthy!

Good job, guys!

Yeah, it's always fun to read a "let's crap on Romo" threads. Very entertaining from "supposed" Cowboy fans.

Then, even my buddy, ABQCOWBOY is joining in in the fun...shame, shame, shame.

 

[KJJ]

What a coincidence. Just about the time he has a very good defense and a good running game.

Imagine that.

27th in passing yards if I'm not mistaken.

Smith doesn't turn the ball over which helps his defense. His TD to turnover ratio after the first 3 games is 4-0. Part of KC's running success has been Smith who's second on the team with 114 yards averaging 5.0 a carry. He was the Chiefs leading rusher vs the Cowboys in week 2.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Yeah, it's always fun to read a "let's crap on Romo" threads. Very entertaining from "supposed" Cowboy fans.

Then, even my buddy, ABQCOWBOY is joining in in the fun...shame, shame, shame.

Call em like I see em 5Stars. But it is not lost on me that there are two sides here. Some will never give Romo credit and some will never admit that Romo has failed.

It goes both ways.

 

[Staubacher]

Wow...
This thread has been popcorn worthy!

Good job, guys!

LOL. I really just started this thread to show Romo's stats after 3 games. Of course any thread w Romo in the title gets this treatment. This one is funny but the best ever was the one where the usual suspects argued Sanchez was better than Romo (2 AFC champ games dontcha know).