Romo vs Dak who are you taking?

[DallasEast]

Man, DE, you are getting attacked worse than Dak Attack! Now you have a Taco Engineer on your butt also. What shall you do now?

You are such an instigator. Who or what is a 'Taco Engineer'?

 

[Diehardblues]

I think the writing was on the wall for Tony Romo post-2016. Jerry Jones had established full support of his successor by late October 2016. Romo would not have returned for 2017.

How Jones and Jason Garrett decided to compete for a Super Bowl, in regards to the quarterback position that season, is my lingering issue. It is one thing to make the permanent switch at the position for the seasons to come. That is what happened. It is what every team does at some point for any position.

It is another thing to gamble on any championship contending opportunity--no matter who remote or miniscule--based on a rookie quarterback leading the team to one. No rookie quarterback accomplished the feat before 2016. The same has held true after 2016. There was zero reason to believe it would become reality in 2016. And yet, that is exactly what Jones (and Garrett) believed, along with a sizeable number of fans and media alike.

Appearing in or winning Super Bowls are fleeting opportunities. 2016 was Jones' biggest gamble up to that point of his tenure as general manager. Well. No one can push him away from the poker table. He holds all the chips every year, lol.

Yea Romo was toast , at least for the Cowboys, after decision to stay with Prescott.

Maybe it wouldn’t have made any difference with that defense giving up a miraculous 3rd and 20 to Rodgers.

 

[DallasEast]

The Romo I saw on his return in 2016 is the choice most GM’s make who aren’t pandering to public perception.

Jethro would have been severely bashed if Romo would have lost out early in playoffs for pulling a hot hand in Dak although his hand had cooled off a bit. He was better off publicly losing with Dak than inserting Romo back in. And why owners wearing multiple hats are a conflict of interest.

Bold> He acted with a degree of cowardice if this opinion is true of Jones' internal motivation.

 

[mfiggs18]

Surprised by how many picked Romo we were struggling to just get into the postseason with him. I remember multiple times of us getting eliminated week 16. By the time I felt like Romo finally figured things out his body was done.

 

[DallasEast]

Yea Romo was toast , at least for the Cowboys, after decision to stay with Prescott.

Maybe it wouldn’t have made any difference with that defense giving up a miraculous 3rd and 20 to Rodgers.

There are plenty of what ifs. I have always maintained the 2016 season could have ended the exact same way with Romo. However, the what ifs, like all what ifs, shall remained unanswered since they did not play out in reality.

I am glad most of the attention is on Romo in this thread. Heaven only knows Prescott takes it on the chin practically everyday on CowboysZone. Time for the guy who got the grief before him to tag in for him--at least for awhile.

 

[McKDaddy]

How could it be “easy” when Romo was 2-6 in playoff/elimination games? We were blown out in 4 of those games.

Same way I know Barry Sanders was better than Thurman Thomas even though Barry had 1 win, 91 carries for 386 yards and scored 1 touchdown in 6 games in the playoffs in his career. I've watched them both play.

One could play the position at a high level without an all star cast around him.

One needs an all star cast & a feeble opponent to look competent.

What is Prescott's record in playoffs or against a fairly matched opponent?

 

[McKDaddy]

It is another thing to gamble on any championship contending opportunity--no matter who remote or miniscule--based on a rookie quarterback leading the team to one. No rookie quarterback accomplished the feat before 2016. The same has held true after 2016. There was zero reason to believe it would become reality in 2016. And yet, that is exactly what Jones (and Garrett) believed, along with a sizeable number of fans and media alike.

Football organizations tune out the fans & media when making football decisions.

This organization embraces the attention, consequences be damned.

 

[Cowboys5217]

Same way I know Barry Sanders was better than Thurman Thomas even though Barry had 1 win, 91 carries for 386 yards and scored 1 touchdown in 6 games in the playoffs in his career. I've watched them both play.

One could play the position at a high level without an all star cast around him.

One needs an all star cast & a feeble opponent to look competent.

What is Prescott's record in playoffs or against a fairly matched opponent?

Romo wasn't that great. Sheesh, I know players get romanticized after they retire, but come on, man. The guy was a choker. This was proven conclusively throughout his career. He choked more than Dak has so far if you include the three straight "win and in" games he failed in.

You talk about needing an all-star cast. Romo had that - 13-3 record with one seed, and an NFL record number of pro bowl players around him. Result? One and done. If he couldn't lead the team to an NFC title game that year, then he would never get it done.

Dak has failed a similar test, so the answer to the OP question is none of the above. Tank and draft a real QB in the first round instead.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It was because of him we had a shot at the end.
How many times did you expect romo to go back out and win the game. A obvious example is not a playoff game, but peytons broncos. Toe to toe with peyton play after play, series after series. Defense just couldt get a stop. Until finally at the end romos numbers ran out.

But according to "yall"....that is the same choke job as daks 2 interceptions and 14 easy 1st half points.

And you trying to pretend not biased. Lol.

Im not trying to be unbiased. As a Dak fan I can straight up admit he’s become the choker Romo has. Has is that biased?
I never had faith in Romo winning a game for us I don’t know what you guys are talking about. Especially is it was a playoff game or a win and you’re in game. I knew we’d lose and we did it took me a our 3 years to realize it.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Same way I know Barry Sanders was better than Thurman Thomas even though Barry had 1 win, 91 carries for 386 yards and scored 1 touchdown in 6 games in the playoffs in his career. I've watched them both play.

One could play the position at a high level without an all star cast around him.

One needs an all star cast & a feeble opponent to look competent.

What is Prescott's record in playoffs or against a fairly matched opponent?

Yeah but Romo ain’t no Barry or even Thurman Thomas…..

What do you consider a fairly matched opponent? Someone as good or worse then the Cowboys?

 

[DallasEast]

Football organizations tune out the fans & media when making football decisions.

This organization embraces the attention, consequences be damned.

I wish I could completely fault fans and media motivating Jerry Jones in managing football operations. I cannot though. Fans and media are not his motivation for keeping a decades long stranglehold latched onto the general managership. That culprit is his narcissism.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

"But when I see posters posted.."

I am a poster.

Allow me to ask a more specific question. Have you not read any post made by me concerning Cowherd, Bayless, Carton, videos within the Fan Forum?

I don’t recall.

 

[noshame]

Staubach
Aikman
Next......guy who gets us there.

 

[DallasEast]

I don’t recall.

Thank you.

 

[McKDaddy]

Romo wasn't that great. Sheesh, I know players get romanticized after they retire, but come on, man. The guy was a choker. This was proven conclusively throughout his career. He choked more than Dak has so far if you include the three straight "win and in" games he failed in.

You talk about needing an all-star cast. Romo had that - 13-3 record with one seed, and an NFL record number of pro bowl players around him. Result? One and done. If he couldn't lead the team to an NFC title game that year, then he would never get it done.

Dak has failed a similar test, so the answer to the OP question is none of the above. Tank and draft a real QB in the first round instead.

He was way more well regarded by other NFL players than Dak. They game planned for & tried to injure him. They want Dak in the game.

If a player clearly chokes, I'm fine with saying that. But the number of times Tony choked is few compared to the times his team \ coaches choked around him. It was just a media label that all started about 10 minutes after the playoff loss to Seattle. He had been the poster child of the league up until that moment. That's how quick they turn on you to keep the story hot.

Yes, where we are today, I agree. Tank & go draft someone.

 

[McKDaddy]

Yeah but Romo ain’t no Barry or even Thurman Thomas…..

What do you consider a fairly matched opponent? Someone as good or worse then the Cowboys?

Nothing to do with anything, it's an analogy.

Pretty self explanatory.

 

[G2]

Let Prescott finish his career before any realistic comparison takes. Somehow Romo got propelled into the HOF but wasn't very reliable.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Romo without a doubt. Wish he got his shot back in 2016 playoffs.

 

[KJJ]

Same way I know Barry Sanders was better than Thurman Thomas even though Barry had 1 win, 91 carries for 386 yards and scored 1 touchdown in 6 games in the playoffs in his career. I've watched them both play.

One could play the position at a high level without an all star cast around him.

One needs an all star cast & a feeble opponent to look competent.

What is Prescott's record in playoffs or against a fairly matched opponent?

So in your eyes comparing Romo to Dak is like comparing Barry Sanders to Thurman Thomas? To make it sound like Romo didn’t have good teams around him is absurd! He had arguably the greatest team the Cowboys had since the their SB teams of the 90s in 2007. We went one and done and the game ended deep in Giants territory with a chance to win with Romo throwing a pick in the endzone. His 2009 team beat the 13-0 Saints on the road and finished the season with back to back shutout wins. That was the hottest team we’ve had entering the playoffs since the 90s. We were on fire!

That season ended with Romo turning the ball over 3 times in a blowout loss to Minnesota. Romo had 8 fumbles during the playoffs and 2 INTs. He had 8 turnovers in his three elimination games and all led to blowout losses. The only playoff wins he had were against Michael Vick and Matt Stafford who was 0-3 in playoff games with Detroit. Dak has beaten Russell Wilson in the playoffs and Tom Brady on the road. Brady was 7-0 against the Cowboys and that was our first playoff win on the road since our last SB win. Those of you who act like we had it so much better with Romo are being ridiculous!

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Let Prescott finish his career before any realistic comparison takes. Somehow Romo got propelled into the HOF but wasn't very reliable.

Great post.