Romo vs White

[haleyrules]

And one more thing about Tony. He kept us relevant in very bad times. He was about the only person worth watching for the Cowboys in a lot of those years. That was proven 2 years ago when nobody could win a game without him.

That years failures were really on a completely incompetent coaching staff.

 

[haleyrules]

The hardware makes the argument hard. I think it's clear that Romo was better than White. I think the question should be Romo vs Aikman for the #2 spot. I feel Romo was a better QB than Troy. I know that's not a popular opinion because of the 3 rings that Troy wears... Romo never played on a team as talented as Troy had over those 5 years or so. Aikman also never carried a poor team the way Romo did.

Come on brother. Aikman was a leader with a rocket for an arm and WON three SB's. There is just no way to put Tony Romo in that category. He had a couple of wildcard wins.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Come on brother. Aikman was a leader with a rocket for an arm and WON three SB's. There is just no way to put Tony Romo in that category. He had a couple of wildcard wins.

After that playoff win over the Eagles I was so looking forward to 2010. What an awful season. And it didn't get much better until 2014. Just one wasted year after another.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

After that playoff win over the Eagles I was so looking forward to 2010. What an awful season. And it didn't get much better until 2014. Just one wasted year after another.

And then after 2014 I was looking forward to the next year. So what do the Cowboys do. They get rid of Murray and don't sign Dez until late resulting in another lost season. A lot of lost seasons in Dallas these last few years. I hope this year will be different. We need back to back great seasons.

 

[Trouty]

Like White, Romo was failed by poor front office decisions.

Still, White's body of work, for me, is more impressive than Romo's when you remove Romo's statistics. His success (relative to Romo) in the postseason can't be ignored.

Also, as with many other sports, you have to adjust for eras. White played in a less pass-oriented era than Romo did.

And I say this as an ardent Romo supporter, but it is what it is. Romo had less of a career than ol' Danny boy.

The people saying Romo is/was better than Aikman/Staubach really need to stop, as you guys make us Romo supporters look really bad. There is absolutely no way one can defend that argument.

 

[Trouty]

And then after 2014 I was looking forward to the next year. So what do the Cowboys do. They get rid of Murray and don't sign Dez until late resulting in another lost season. A lot of lost seasons in Dallas these last few years. I hope this year will be different. We need back to back great seasons.

Yeah, Romo was a victim of this regime (Jerry Jones) as much as, if not more, the Cowboys a victim of a Romo.

Still, there's some really odd arguments in this thread (Romo vs. Roger/Troy).

 

[haleyrules]

After that playoff win over the Eagles I was so looking forward to 2010. What an awful season. And it didn't get much better until 2014. Just one wasted year after another.

The truth is the truth. The 2007 beating by the Giants was a shock at the time. The Eagles the next year 44-6 pounding. I don't want to think anymore about Romo's career. Thank god the club found Prescott and moved on. That fumbled snap in a certain victory against Seattle.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

The truth is the truth. The 2007 beating by the Giants was a shock at the time. The Eagles the next year 44-6 pounding. I don't want to think anymore about Romo's career. Thank god the club found Prescott and moved on. That fumbled snap in a certain victory against Seattle.

It seems like Tony just couldn't overcome that snap. It's always followed him. Like I said before when I look back on the Romo years I'll just think of it as a waste. I just hope the next era is better.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Yeah, Romo was a victim of this regime (Jerry Jones) as much as, if not more, the Cowboys a victim of a Romo.

Still, there's some really odd arguments in this thread (Romo vs. Roger/Troy).

Some are trying to compare QBs from different eras. If Tony would have QBed those 90's teams we would have won so and so SBs. Just no way to know that. We know what Troy did. Shouldn't disrespect him. As for Roger many just forget how great he was.

 

[Trouty]

It seems like Tony just couldn't overcome that snap. It's always followed him. Like I said before when I look back on the Romo years I'll just think of it as a waste. I just hope the next era is better.

It will be, Jerry won't muddy the water for Prescott, thank god. Prescott's youth, relative to Jerry's age, is in our favor, PA

 

[Trouty]

Some are trying to compare QBs from different eras. If Tony would have QBed those 90's teams we would have won so and so SBs. Just no way to know that. We know what Troy did. Shouldn't disrespect him. As for Roger many just forget how great he was.

Absolutely. It's a tired argument. We don't know. Troy had intangibles that Romo simply never showed. I doubt Romo would've been able to hold those teams together the way Troy did. Troy seems warm and affable in the booth, but that man was a hardass on the field and in practice and the locker room.

It's kinda like the people that say so and so hockey player would've scored more than Gretzky in the 80's because of goalie equipment being smaller and such. Yeah, no.

Gretzky outscored his opponents by 50-70 points a season. The talent gap shows. The talent gap with Troy and any QB since, on our beloved team, shows.

You can never make those assumptions.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Absolutely. It's a tired argument. We don't know. Troy had intangibles that Romo simply never showed. I doubt Romo would've been able to hold those teams together the way Troy did. Troy seems warm and affable in the booth, but that man was a hardass on the field and in practice and the locker room.

It's kinda like the people that say so and so hockey player would've scored more than Gretzky in the 80's because of goalie equipment being smaller and such. Yeah, no.

Gretzky outscored his opponents by 50-70 points a season. The talent gap shows. The talent gap with Troy and any QB since, on our beloved team, shows.

You can never make those assumptions.

And if Tony did play on those 90's teams his stats would not be what they are today because we had Emmitt. Troy sacrificed Stats for the good of the team.

 

[Trouty]

Romo was a great football player, and kept us relevant for nearly a decade. I'm good with that. Prescott will take us to a whole new level, so long as he is supported with elite management at the top.

This is the Dallas Cowboys. We, and Dak, deserve (yes, I said deserve) nothing less than the best player-personnel people in the business.

Time to fix the defense and let Dak fly.

 

[Trouty]

And if Tony did play on those 90's teams his stats would not be what they are today because we had Emmitt. Troy sacrificed Stats for the good of the team.

Bingo! Absolutely, PA.

 

[haleyrules]

We've been extremely fortunate, all told. Dak definitely is off to a terrific start. I'm already starting to consider him for the greatness label, although substantially more proof is essential for him to legitimately claim such a reputation.

To many of us, he's practically there already. We might be forced to come back to earth somewhat if things get tough early in the upcoming season. Needless to say, our difficult schedule will present a daunting challenge. Hopefully, his progress will be impressive enough that it might allow us, once again, to be astounded by his excellence.

yep. Amen. Expectations must be tempered. This upcoming season will not be so smooth. I am hoping the club can win 10 games and take the division. Thats realistic. That may not happen. The offense is very solid. Prescott will need professional coaching...the defense is not ready.

 

[haleyrules]

It seems like Tony just couldn't overcome that snap. It's always followed him. Like I said before when I look back on the Romo years I'll just think of it as a waste. I just hope the next era is better.

Agreed. Romo never got over that single,terrible blunder. Thats what is was...the Tuna never recovered. These are the cold, non sugar coated facts. Heck, l never forgot it and these blunders are the legacy of Tony Romo. The idiotic pass to Bryant in 2014 sealed0 his legacy. It was his line call that threw that season away...it was his last chance to salvage a lost career. Thats some harsh words...but fair and accurate. Romo threw his own career away. Nothing more than than.

 

[CT Dal Fan]

The truth is the truth. The 2007 beating by the Giants was a shock at the time. The Eagles the next year 44-6 pounding. I don't want to think anymore about Romo's career. Thank god the club found Prescott and moved on. That fumbled snap in a certain victory against Seattle.

That 2007 team was Romo's best chance to win a Super Bowl, and I have to admit he blew it. By the time Romo matured as a quarterback and started taking the job more seriously, the team around him was crumbling. The 2014 Cowboys were very good, but I don't think they were Super Bowl worthy with that defense. The 2007 team was loaded on both sides of the ball.

But I'm with you, it's time to look ahead with Dak. The slate is basically clean with him. Sure, he lost in the playoffs last year, but that wasn't his fault. There were no Romo-like blame to give Prescott (a botched hold, a trip to Cabo, etc.).

 

[haleyrules]

That 2007 team was Romo's best chance to win a Super Bowl, and I have to admit he blew it. By the time Romo matured as a quarterback and started taking the job more seriously, the team around him was crumbling. The 2014 Cowboys were very good, but I don't think they were Super Bowl worthy with that defense. The 2007 team was loaded on both sides of the ball.

But I'm with you, it's time to look ahead with Dak. The slate is basically clean with him. Sure, he lost in the playoffs last year, but that wasn't his fault. There were no Romo-like blame to give Prescott (a botched hold, a trip to Cabo, etc.).

Amen, brother. There is a logical and spiritual time to move on. I , as a human, simply couldn't take anymore excuses. Prescott, hopefully, is the road ahead. There are no guarantees...hope is what keeps all of us going...hope is all l have left to invest in Prescott.

 

[75boyz]

There is a debate going on here in San Antonio on the local ESPN radio show. Who is the third best QB in Cowboy's history between Romo and Danny White. Having seen the entire career of both, it seems evident to me, but i wanted to pose the question to the board to see if my opinion is not as concrete as i believe.

I just think the other 21 starters on both sides of the ball were superior for White's era teams. Collectively speaking, overalk talent far favors White's teams along with overall depth at most positions

Some of this same opinion can be shared along with the Aikman era squads.

Tony was such a great person and QB who got pretty much all he could get out of the hand he was dealt.

I still believe Romo's best team and the team's best missed opportunity was 2007 with regards to the roster talent they had.
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[Gator88]

That about sizes it up. Romo was a good QB and sometimes very good. He just never came thru when it counted. Romo was a good guy and that has meant a lot to many fans.

This is false. Can you name another QB that had 0 incompletions outside 1 b.s. call that the NFL failed to justify for an entire year of trying. I think being pretty much perfect in the second half of a playoff game on the road against a better team is coming through when it counts, but then again I realize game results aren't just a QB competition.