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I can't imagine anyone saying that. Roger was great and on a level of his own. I think Romo was very good but his legacy will never be considered as great, unless it's by the avid Cowboys fans who were weaned in his era. To be fair, the team failed to provide him with the offensive and defensive assistance that might have rendered him considerably more effective.

I have actually seen posters say 9 was better than 12 many times, even in this very thread. It's mind boggling. I agree with your take on 9. Romo was a very good QB caught up in a relatively bad Cowboy era. He didn't help himself however by having some very bad games at the most inopportune of times.
 

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Amen. Heck, they were all outstanding. Aikman had a rocket for an arm and deadly accurate. Yep, Roger was Roger and even ole Tom had a hard time controlling him...he was that good.

I got a kick out of some of the interactions between Landry and Meredith. Don was such a loose, do-it-my-way type of guy that drove Tom to distraction at times. Landry often winced at the way he did things, despite the fact that he was effective most of the time. Unfortunately, things went sour for Meredith towards the end of his career when the fans turned on him. Those were still fun times, though.
 

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I have actually seen posters say 9 was better than 12 many times, even in this very thread. It's mind boggling. I agree with your take on 9. Romo was a very good QB caught up in a relatively bad Cowboy era. He didn't help himself however by having some very bad games at the most inopportune of times.
That about sizes it up. Romo was a good QB and sometimes very good. He just never came thru when it counted. Romo was a good guy and that has meant a lot to many fans.
 

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I got a kick out of some of the interactions between Landry and Meredith. Don was such a loose, do-it-my-way type of guy that drove Tom to distraction at times. Landry often winced at the way he did things, despite the fact that he was effective most of the time. Unfortunately, things went sour for Meredith towards the end of his career when the fans turned on him. Those were fun days, though.
lol. You ain't kidding. Landry was a control type. Both Meredith and Staubach drove him nuts. Meredith had some stiff competition for the starting job also. Morton was pushing him and Staubach was coming in to compete for the job, and l always thought that contributed to his unexpected decision to retire.
 

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That about sizes it up. Romo was a good QB and sometimes very good. He just never came thru when it counted. Romo was a good guy and that has meant a lot to many fans.
Correct. Romo had his chances on many occasions to shake the label of a choker. Instead of shaking the label (unfairly or not), he at times gave the "Romo is a choker" crowd even more ammunition. It is what it is and will probably debated ad nauseam for a very long time. It's already old as far as I'm concerned. People aren't going to change their mind on Romo, one way or the other, at this late date.

I prefer to concentrate on how awesome his replacement is looking thus far. :starspin::starspin::starspin:
 

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The Cowboys have really been lucky at the QB position. How many teams have had 5 great QBs? Hopefully Dak will be the 6th.

We've been extremely fortunate, all told. Dak definitely is off to a terrific start. I'm already starting to consider him for the greatness label, although substantially more proof is essential for him to legitimately claim such a reputation.

To many of us, he's practically there already. We might be forced to come back to earth somewhat if things get tough early in the upcoming season. Needless to say, our difficult schedule will present a daunting challenge. Hopefully, his progress will be impressive enough that it might allow us, once again, to be astounded by his excellence. :)
 
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Correct. Romo had his chances on many occasions to shake the label of a choker. Instead of shaking the label (unfairly or not), he at times gave the "Romo is a choker" crowd even more ammunition. It is what it is and will probably debated ad nauseam for a very long time. It's already old as far as I'm concerned. People aren't going to change their mind on Romo, one way or the other, at this late date.

I prefer to concentrate on how awesome his replacement is looking thus far. :starspin::starspin::starspin:

At times, I feel kinda sorry for Tony, although he's got it pretty doggone good, all things considered. He's a millionaire, has a beautiful wife and kids, plenty of adoring fans and a new job that will likely keep him in the limelight for years to come. Come to think of it, he's got a really good "go!"
 

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Correct. Romo had his chances on many occasions to shake the label of a choker. Instead of shaking the label (unfairly or not), he at times gave the "Romo is a choker" crowd even more ammunition. It is what it is and will probably debated ad nauseam for a very long time. It's already old as far as I'm concerned. People aren't going to change their mind on Romo, one way or the other, at this late date.

I prefer to concentrate on how awesome his replacement is looking thus far. :starspin::starspin::starspin:

Well said indeed SIR :bow::bow::bow: :clap::clap::clap:
 

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lol. You ain't kidding. Landry was a control type. Both Meredith and Staubach drove him nuts. Meredith had some stiff competition for the starting job also. Morton was pushing him and Staubach was coming in to compete for the job, and l always thought that contributed to his unexpected decision to retire.
Makes you think of that movie North Dallas Forty :lmao2:
 

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lol. You ain't kidding. Landry was a control type. Both Meredith and Staubach drove him nuts. Meredith had some stiff competition for the starting job also. Morton was pushing him and Staubach was coming in to compete for the job, and l always thought that contributed to his unexpected decision to retire.

After Morton lost that Super Bowl when Randy White and Harvey Martin sacked him almost into oblivion, I think that really ripped it for him. He was embarrassed so badly by that loss that I think he possibly has nightmares about it to this day. Poor guy, what a beating he took!
 

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How was Romo more "talented" than Roger?
I wont get in to semantics here but if Romo had 3 Super Bowls, we wouldnt be having this conversation and we wouldnt debate whether hes better than White...
 

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I wont get in to semantics here but if Romo had 3 Super Bowls, we wouldnt be having this conversation and we wouldnt debate whether hes better than White...
I was just looking for an explanation or some type of rationale as to how you have come to the conclusion that Tony was more "talented" than Roger, White versus Romo aside......
 

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I was just looking for an explanation or some type of rationale as to how you have come to the conclusion that Tony was more "talented" than Roger, White versus Romo aside......
Ive said in this thread already why I think hes more talented, which was originally made in april btw. Idk why its been upped.

Romo had a faster release, better pocket prescence, and higher iq (yes higher iq. The defensive schemes today are much more complex than the ones roger faced). Add on top of that, most athletes now are more athletic than those that played 40-50 yrs ago.

Like i said, its my opinion. Roger was the best Qb we've had, by far actually.
 

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Ive said in this thread already why I think hes more talented, which was originally made in april btw. Idk why its been upped.

Romo had a faster release, better pocket prescence, and higher iq (yes higher iq. The defensive schemes today are much more complex than the ones roger faced). Add on top of that, most athletes now are more athletic than those that played 40-50 yrs ago.

Like i said, its my opinion. Roger was the best Qb we've had, by far actually.

Well we know Rogers IQ in the playoffs (so people have said here). We don't know what Romo's could have been, since he barely played in them.
 

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Ive said in this thread already why I think hes more talented, which was originally made in april btw. Idk why its been upped.

Romo had a faster release, better pocket prescence, and higher iq (yes higher iq. The defensive schemes today are much more complex than the ones roger faced). Add on top of that, most athletes now are more athletic than those that played 40-50 yrs ago.

Like i said, its my opinion. Roger was the best Qb we've had, by far actually.
Roger had SICK pocket presence, so that is totally up for debate. As for IQ, Roger Staubach is the wealthiest football player of ALL TIME due to his ability to run his businesses outside of football. I guess we can agree to disagree on this one. :thumbup:
 
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