Romo will likely pass 30,000 career yards this season.

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In Today's NFL, if you don't pass for 4000 yards, you suck, period.

5000 yards is the new 4000.

Do you want to be the greatest show on turf or do you want to be "good enough" ?

Well, with no running game, we haven't even been "good enough".
 

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That can't be right...Peyton has to be included too since he has 7 seasons with a rating of 98.0 or higher and a few more in the mid 90's.
It's a gimmick stat, designed to make Tony look good. Peyton wasn't top-10 his first season, but he has been for every one of his other 13 seasons, including 3 times leading the league. Tony has 7 seasons in the top 10, but never higher than 4th. And in his first season, he didn't throw a pass. Tony's very very good, but stats like this one are just silly.
 

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22 TDs vs 10 Interceptions isn't terrible by anyone's definition, especially for a team that ran for a healthy 1900 yards.

QBR below 50.

and 22 vs 10 certainly isn't worth 126 million....and that's before we consider he completed less than 60% of his passes.
 

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Nice feat to accomplish, though I'd rather he gets a Super Bowl win this year.

As for the Joe Flacco talk, In my opinion he is greatly over rated, heck I even heard some Espn guy say he is todays Troy Aikman. Gimme a break. Joe Flacco is an average QB who had a very good play off run. People who are narrow minded like to point to his 4-5 game stretch where he played lights out, but they'll look past the other 60 games he played mediocre in. SMH.
 

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Romo presently has 25,737 yards so he only has 4,263 to go. Maybe not as significant a milestone as it once was but it is still surely notable.

If Romo wins a Super Bowl you could make a case for him to be a HOF quarterback (projecting he has another 3 or 4 years like he has had in his career.) some people may laugh at that statement but really looks at his career.
 

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Nice feat to accomplish, though I'd rather he gets a Super Bowl win this year.

As for the Joe Flacco talk, In my opinion he is greatly over rated, heck I even heard some Espn guy say he is todays Troy Aikman. Gimme a break. Joe Flacco is an average QB who had a very good play off run. People who are narrow minded like to point to his 4-5 game stretch where he played lights out, but they'll look past the other 60 games he played mediocre in. SMH.

Flacco has 18 TDs vs 2 INTs in the past three post seasons.

Doesn't sound average in the least to me.
 

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If Romo wins a Super Bowl you could make a case for him to be a HOF quarterback (projecting he has another 3 or 4 years like he has had in his career.) some people may laugh at that statement but really looks at his career.

If Romo wins a SB and has some post season success then I think he'll be in the HOF. He has to do something in the postseason first though.
 

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If Romo wins a SB and has some post season success then I think he'll be in the HOF. He has to do something in the postseason first though.

I think he has to win a ring and have 4 more years with the type of production he's had throughout his career (close to 4000 yards and over 25 Tds)
 

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The bar for passing / recieving stats is going up dramatically -- 40,000 yards and 300 TDs will be no guarantee 10 years from now when Romo might be eligible.

Perfect Example of modern players who have no chance at HOF having stats that dwarf the vast majority of the guys at their same position in the HOF:

Derrick Mason:
  • 943 receptions, 12061 yards, 66 TDs
  • 12th all time WR
  • Exceeds Michael Irvin in receptions, yards, and TDs
  • Absolutely no chance for the HOF
Romo will fall exactly into the same category unless he has some post-season success. You are fooling yourself to think Romo has any chance for the HOF on stats alone.


Correct.

The HOF is based on your legacy. How did you do in compairison to others at your position. And for QBs it is all about Championships, division titles & winning performances.

Little of which appears in the Romo resume. I figure he has about 3 years to have any chance at making his career anything a more than Drew Bledsoe..the guy he replaced.
 

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It's a gimmick stat, designed to make Tony look good...Tony's very very good, but stats like this one are just silly.
If you want to show how the stat is silly or gimmicky, simply explain why only three QB have ever done it.
 

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It's right. Peyton qualified his rookie year but did not make the top 10.

And of course, if Brady or Romo had started as rookies, they wouldn't have made it either.

Probably not anyways.

Yeah, I saw my mistake, but was too late to edit. I am still surprised by Brady though, he had some pedestrian ratings earlier in his career.
 

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I am still surprised by Brady though, he had some pedestrian ratings earlier in his career.
Back then the average rating was 7 points lower, so you have to add 7 points to those if your looking at raw numbers only. The raw rating is really meaningless compared to the ranking for the year. And he has been 9th or lower five times in his career, but still 11 consecutive top 10's is something that only Manning and Montana have done.

This is the list that Romo will be on with another top 10 season in 2013:

Consecutive Top 10 Seasons
13 Montana (1980-90, 93-94)
13 Manning (1999-2010, 2012)
11 Brady (2001-07, 09-12)
8 Dawson (1964-68, 70-72)
8 Fouts (1978-85)
8 Young (1991-98)
7 Graham (1949-55)
7 Griese (1970-71, 73-74, 76-78)
 

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If Romo stays healthy, he could get to 40,000 career yards and 300 TD passes, excellent numbers that many have that are in the HOF. But, he is not a HOF unless he wins a SB or starts winning a lot of playoff games.

Many of those QB's who are in the HOF put up those numbers well before the NFL became a passing league. The player safety rule changes have opened up the passing game even more. The NFL is a different game today 10 QB's passed for over 4000 yards last season including a rookie QB. If you go back 20 years ago it was rare to see a QB reach 4000 passing yards now it's common. We're seeing 5000 yard passers in today game. Big passing numbers are routine today. We just saw a 37 year old QB put up an NFL record tying 7 TD passes opening night.

Although Romo's numbers are exceeding the numbers of previous Cowboy QB's like Staubach, White and Aikman they played in different era's his numbers are below several of his peers today. With the numbers QB's are putting up today Romo won't even sniff the top 10 in career passing yards or TD's. Romo currently has 50 QB's ahead of him on the career TD list including 8 current QB's.
 

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Which would be a shame since he is one of the ten best QBs of all time.

Romo is not one of the top 10 QB's of all time. Heck, many outside the Cowboy camp don't even have him in the top ten this year.
 

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Romo is not one of the top 10 QB's of all time. Heck, many outside the Cowboy camp don't even have him in the top ten this year.

Agreed.

I do believe he will likely fall into top 50 QBs of all time after crossing this threshold.
 

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Flacco has 18 TDs vs 2 INTs in the past three post seasons.

Doesn't sound average in the least to me.

He's had a stretch of 6 games where he's been good. If you take a step back and look at the whole picture, then yes he has been average.

Having a solid team around you also does wonders, it takes a ton of pressure off of you where all you have to do is just not turnover the ball. I will give credit where it is due though, yes he has been very solid those last 6 games, but looking at it as a whole he hasn't been that good.
 

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If you want to show how the stat is silly or gimmicky, simply explain why only three QB have ever done it.
Other way around. If you're making up a stat, you need to show why it's meaningful and representative. And it's obvious why more haven't done it. Some, like Manning, started as rookies. Romo sat for a few years. Some haven't been around long enough to meet your "six years" criterion. Aaron Rodgers and his 5 say hi. Some had a decline phase where their rating went down and the streak ended. Fran Tarkenton, who started with 10 straight, for example. Romo hasn't hit his yet. Steve Young was top 5 for 8 years in a row and led the league 6 of those years, but he's excluded.
 

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Other way around. If you're making up a stat, you need to show why it's meaningful and representative. And it's obvious why more haven't done it. Some, like Manning, started as rookies. Romo sat for a few years. Some haven't been around long enough to meet your "six years" criterion. Aaron Rodgers and his 5 say hi. Some had a decline phase where their rating went down and the streak ended. Fran Tarkenton, who started with 10 straight, for example. Romo hasn't hit his yet. Steve Young was top 5 for 8 years in a row and led the league 6 of those years, but he's excluded.
If you're knocking something as "a gimmick," then it's on you to explain what makes it a gimmick, instead of just saying the word. The stat covers the entire history of the NFL, so the four names you dribbled out hardly pass for an explanation of why only three quarterbacks meet the criteria. Do you realize how many quarterbacks have played at least six qualifying seasons in the history of the NFL? The number is somewhere around 300. That would mean there are 3 who have done it, and about 297 who haven't -- 31 of whom are in the Hall of Fame, by the way.
 

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If you're knocking something as "a gimmick," then it's on you to explain what makes it a gimmick, instead of just saying the word. The stat covers the entire history of the NFL, so the four names you dribbled out hardly pass for an explanation of why only three quarterbacks meet the criteria. Do you realize how many quarterbacks have played at least six qualifying seasons in the history of the NFL? The number is somewhere around 300. That would mean there are 3 who have done it, and about 297 who haven't -- 31 of whom are in the Hall of Fame, by the way.
Hmm. I really can't tell if you're being serious. Anyway, you're saying that you have no intention of defending your stat, so I'll leave it there. (And it's 157, by the way. And 16 who are still active and so haven't played out their string yet).
 
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