Romo will likely pass 30,000 career yards this season.

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If you're knocking something as "a gimmick," then it's on you to explain what makes it a gimmick, instead of just saying the word. The stat covers the entire history of the NFL, so the four names you dribbled out hardly pass for an explanation of why only three quarterbacks meet the criteria. Do you realize how many quarterbacks have played at least six qualifying seasons in the history of the NFL? The number is somewhere around 300. That would mean there are 3 who have done it, and about 297 who haven't -- 31 of whom are in the Hall of Fame, by the way.

It's a gimmick stat because it's basically useless. Romo has six top ten passer ratings that happen to have come in a row. Steve Young has 6 passing TITLES (finishes at #1). Steve Young is the James Brown of NFL passer rating. He's the Elvis. If somebody makes a positive passer rating stat that includes Romo but excludes Steve Young, then they need to go back to the drawing board. It's like all these NBA stats they come up saying this guy is the first guy to have 12 points, 4 blocks, 7 rebounds and 5 steals... full of arbitrary numbers. Meanwhile some other guy will have 40 points, 15 blocks, 25 rebounds but only 4 steals... so he's left off the stat. Useless.
 

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This thread has to be a JOKE. Posters are saying Romo has HOF numbers and this team has missed the playoffs the last 2 years? You got to be kidding me
 

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If somebody makes a positive passer rating stat that includes Romo but excludes Steve Young, then they need to go back to the drawing board.
Well, that would be true if I were trying to say "Romo is the greatest QB of all time and here's why."

The stat I posted is about consistency, which is a point that is getting missed some.
 

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Well, that would be true if I were trying to say "Romo is the greatest QB of all time and here's why."

The stat I posted is about consistency, which is a point that is getting missed some.

Consistency??????????? Romo has not led this team to the playoffs since 2009
 

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Hmm. I really can't tell if you're being serious. Anyway, you're saying that you have no intention of defending your stat, so I'll leave it there. (And it's 157, by the way. And 16 who are still active and so haven't played out their string yet).
You just said there are 154 QB who don't meet the criteria, and 3 who do, and you think I need to defend something?
 

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In Today's NFL, if you don't pass for 4000 yards, you suck, period.

5000 yards is the new 4000.

Do you want to be the greatest show on turf or do you want to be "good enough" ?

To bad 5000 yards in a season has only been done 6 times with Drew Brees doing it 3 times.
 

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I welcome anyone to logically pick this apart as they please, because maybe I'm missing something and you can enlighten me. If it's so easy to rank among the top 10 passers six years in a row, how come only 13 players have done it?

Consecutive Seasons
Top 10 Passers

13 Montana (1980-90, 93-94)
13 Manning (1999-2010, 2012)
11 Brady (2001-07, 09-12)
8 Dawson (1964-68, 70-72)
8 Fouts (1978-85)
8 Young (1991-98)
7 Graham (1949-55)
7 Griese (1970-71, 73-74, 76-78)
6 Baugh (1940-45)
6 Anderson (1972-77)
6 Unitas (1962-67)
6 Tarkenton (1972-77)
6 Romo (2006-09, 2011-12)
 

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You just said there are 154 QB who don't meet the criteria, and 3 who do, and you think I need to defend something?
Oy. The fact that 3 guys meet your criteria isn't a defense of the stat, it's part of the PROBLEM with the stat. Only three guys qualify because you defined it to be as exclusive as possible while including Romo, not because it really means anything. It's called the multiple endpoints fallacy.

Only 3 QBs played at least 7 seasons and were at least 6'6" tall, too. Wow, that must be really significant, because only 3 guys met the criteria!
 

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I welcome anyone to logically pick this apart as they please, because maybe I'm missing something and you can enlighten me. If it's so easy to rank among the top 10 passers six years in a row, how come only 13 players have done it?

Consecutive Seasons
Top 10 Passers

13 Montana (1980-90, 93-94)
13 Manning (1999-2010, 2012)
11 Brady (2001-07, 09-12)
8 Dawson (1964-68, 70-72)
8 Fouts (1978-85)
8 Young (1991-98)
7 Graham (1949-55)
7 Griese (1970-71, 73-74, 76-78)
6 Baugh (1940-45)
6 Anderson (1972-77)
6 Unitas (1962-67)
6 Tarkenton (1972-77)
6 Romo (2006-09, 2011-12)



Can you please post his number of interceptions during those years since 3 of those years he wasn't in the playoffs
 

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I welcome anyone to logically pick this apart as they please, because maybe I'm missing something and you can enlighten me. If it's so easy to rank among the top 10 passers six years in a row, how come only 13 players have done it?

Consecutive Seasons
Top 10 Passers

13 Montana (1980-90, 93-94)
13 Manning (1999-2010, 2012)
11 Brady (2001-07, 09-12)
8 Dawson (1964-68, 70-72)
8 Fouts (1978-85)
8 Young (1991-98)
7 Graham (1949-55)
7 Griese (1970-71, 73-74, 76-78)
6 Baugh (1940-45)
6 Anderson (1972-77)
6 Unitas (1962-67)
6 Tarkenton (1972-77)
6 Romo (2006-09, 2011-12)
See, now that's a meaningful stat, and you've avoided all the problems with the other one that I noted. I've got no problem with this. It doesn't use multiple endpoints to create a tiny grouping and imply that Romo is as good as Brady and Montana. It puts him in proper context while still showing how consistently good he's been. (Top 10 is still a little arbitrary -- Brees would be high on the list if we allowed 11 and Romo would be off if we restricted to 9 -- but hey, top 10 is traditional).

By the way, where'd you get this data? I can't find a way to search for "top 10 passers" on pro-football-reference's season finder.
 

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Only 3 QBs played at least 7 seasons and were at least 6'6" tall, too. Wow, that must be really significant, because only 3 guys met the criteria!
Kinda goes without saying that passer rating correlates to winning, while being 6'6" correlates to bumping your head alot.
 

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Wow, the haters are very imaginative. They could find fault with a 200 karat diamond.
 

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There is no serious argument to be made that Romo needs playoff success to reach the hall. There are already quarterbacks in the hall with terrible playoff records. That ship has sailed.

The only serious question that remains is exactly how good exactly would his numbers have to be if he does not win.
 

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As an amusing sidenote, Romo was actually very fortunate to have last season count as a top 10 season - he had a pretty mediocre year by his standards. And he'd have been ranked 12th if you counted Alex Smith and Colin Kaepernick, both of whom had 218 pass attempts, falling just shy of the 224 pass attempt (14 per game) minimum. Kaepernick was inserted at precisely the right time for neither to qualify.
 

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There is no serious argument to be made that Romo needs playoff success to reach the hall. There are already quarterbacks in the hall with terrible playoff records. That ship has sailed.

The only serious question that remains is exactly how good exactly would his numbers have to be if he does not win.

Well that means someone like McNabb should be a HOF lock then
 

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I just threw up a little in my mouth.

You said that there are QB's in the HOF who did not have playoff success right? So if that is true then Mcnabb should be in the HOF with no problem since he had 10 playoff victories. We both know Romo won't have that many between now and the end of his career don't we???
 
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