Romo's Passer Rating Against Playoff Teams:

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Hopefully Dallas gets back on the winning track because it seems when the team is winning kartr does not come here, he shows up after a loss to tell us how poor this team is.
 

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I have a 100% guarantee prediction.

If Romo goes out and has a terrible game we can look forward to more thread like these from yahoos like Cowboyblog, Munchis, Kartr and etcetera.

If Romo goes on another solid three or more game streak, these same guys will barely make an appearance on the board if at all.

If Dallas makes the playoffs and we lose at some point without winning the Super Bowl, these same guys will be back to lay the loss on Romo.

If Dallas were to win the Super Bowl, they will just go into hiding until the next time Romo has a bad game next year and throw the fluke label on him.

Rinse and repeat.
 

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InmanRoshi;1230780 said:
Would be the same "Shawn" Payton who tried to trade for Romo first thing once he arrived to New Orleans?

And who has a QB in Brees with very similar skills to Romo as far as arm strength and mobility.

Romo doesn't have to run a 4.4 to be successful. The Saints really worked hard at containment and got more push up the middle than they normally do. That is more on the o-line than on the QB. Even if Romo was a great athlete, it would have been a struggle to get outside in that game. That part doesn't matter anyway because most of the passes were meant to come from or near the pocket. That is where Romo struggled. He wasn't accurate on Sunday. That can be worked on with more reps and exposure. His so called lack of athleticism was not the problem in the Saints game.
 

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gbrittain;1230791 said:
I have a 100% guarantee prediction.

If Romo goes out and has a terrible game we can look forward to more thread like these from yahoos like Cowboyblog, Munchis, Kartr and etcetera.

If Romo goes on another solid three or more game streak, these same guys will barely make an appearance on the board if at all.

If Dallas makes the playoffs and we lose at some point without winning the Super Bowl, these same guys will be back to lay the loss on Romo.

If Dallas were to win the Super Bowl, they will just go into hiding until the next time Romo has a bad game next year and throw the fluke label on him.

Rinse and repeat.


I should change my name ot etcetera. I agree with your prediction.
 

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SultanOfSix;1228455 said:
No one takes you seriously. The problem with you is you are waiting for Romo to fail. You disappeared when he was doing great, probably waiting behind an internet bush to pounce on him at the first sign of failure. BP said himself that he's going to have some bad games. Yet, he's still 5-2 as a starter, both of the losses of which cannot be pinned on him in any manner whatsoever. The first loss was against Washington, and he played exceptional. The second loss was due to a horrendous defensive display that forced the team to become one dimensional.

If we're Romo fans first, and Cowboys fans second, you must be an anti-Romo fan first and a Cowboys fan second.


I think his point is that we've won 6 games against teams in the bottom 16 in total defense and lost to the teams in the top 16 defensively. That's not good, no matter who the qb is.
 

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How can anyone talk about Romo being the problem and not mention that it is the Defense that cost us the game. You get Romo to play from behind and he will be throwing more than they, they being the coaches, want him to. 17 points with chance for more, you don't need that many points to win, a good D should take care of the other team.

Miami only needed a safey...2 points to beat NE. Yes I know that things would have been differet if Miami was only up 2 points and NE might have gotten a FG, BUT that is exactly my point. If your D dominates and then your Offense socre a couple of TDs, the other team will be playing from behind and will be making mistakes trying to catch up.

The guy who started this thread sickens me. Where were you when Romo didn't perform well and won against Indy and the Giants? It is very easy to criticize when a player has a bad game.
 

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joseephuss;1230801 said:
And who has a QB in Brees with very similar skills to Romo as far as arm strength and mobility.

Romo doesn't have to run a 4.4 to be successful. The Saints really worked hard at containment and got more push up the middle than they normally do. That is more on the o-line than on the QB. Even if Romo was a great athlete, it would have been a struggle to get outside in that game. That part doesn't matter anyway because most of the passes were meant to come from or near the pocket. That is where Romo struggled. He wasn't accurate on Sunday. That can be worked on with more reps and exposure. His so called lack of athleticism was not the problem in the Saints game.

It is the same thing the Saints did aginst the Falcons, they contained Vick and did not let him get outside to make plays down field or take off on the run. By the way Saints won both games aginst the falcon and did so in a convincing way.
 

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alancdc;1230494 said:
First problem is that anyone that wants Bledsoe back in there is not a sane person. Brady clearly needs to be replaced by Vinnie. After all, Vinny was a first round draft pick, and Brady was a 6th round pick. We all know from this post that draft status is the only indicator of how well someone will play in the league. Give em hell up there Vinny!

Trying to follow your sarcasm but you lost me with draft status stuff .... it was funny... but my post made no mention of it I said nothing about Vinny or Brady's draft status.

I was pointing to Brady's poor numbers vs good teams this year however..... and according to some of the football experts posting with their noses flared after a loss. Brady's horrible numbers against those teams this year would indicate that he is an avg QB at best.


To me that is not sane or rational thinking but some seem to think the numbers don’t lie.

Where do you fall?
 

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gbrittain;1230791 said:
I have a 100% guarantee prediction.

If Romo goes out and has a terrible game we can look forward to more thread like these from yahoos like Cowboyblog, Munchis, Kartr and etcetera.

If Romo goes on another solid three or more game streak, these same guys will barely make an appearance on the board if at all.

If Dallas makes the playoffs and we lose at some point without winning the Super Bowl, these same guys will be back to lay the loss on Romo.

If Dallas were to win the Super Bowl, they will just go into hiding until the next time Romo has a bad game next year and throw the fluke label on him.

Rinse and repeat.


:hammer:

Gee are they that transparent!!!? :laugh2:
 

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kartr;1230809 said:
I think his point is that we've won 6 games against teams in the bottom 16 in total defense and lost to the teams in the top 16 defensively. That's not good, no matter who the qb is.

your point is you must whine like there's no tomorrow about any qb NOT carter.

if i register www.ilovequincycartertodeath.com and setup a forum there for you - will you go away?
 

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You guys are freaking nuts. This is our QB. If you have a problem with that you going to need to find a new team.

How anyone and I mean anyone could question this kid after what he's demonstrated has to have an agenda or a football IQ below 50.

Now I'm not saying 7.5 games is a tell all. If you say wait and see, I'm fine with that.

My problem is with the morons who think Romo doesn't have it based on what we've seen.
WHAT ARE YOU SEEING! This guy has it all and does it all. He makes all the throws. He has demonstarted excellent volicity and accuracy.
His release is cat quick.
He excels in the pocket. Feels the rush and step ups very nicely in the pocket. Just because he's exceptional out of the pocket doesn't mean he's not good in it!
The reason he's exceptional out of the pocket is his ability to throw on the move. He is second to none in this area.

How easy it is to forget all the great things he's done these last few weeks because of one bad game. A game played in far less than optimal conditions.
 

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iceberg;1230886 said:
your point is you must whine like there's no tomorrow about any qb NOT carter.

if i register www.ilovequincycartertodeath.com and setup a forum there for you - will you go away?


gbrittain knows what he is talking about winning is like a big can of RAID it makes the trolls go away!
 

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Apluz;1230899 said:
gbrittain knows what he is talking about winning is like a big can of RAID it makes the trolls go away!

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

Awesome, awesome, awesome. Do you mind if I use that line in the future?
 

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kartr;1230809 said:
I think his point is that we've won 6 games against teams in the bottom 16 in total defense and lost to the teams in the top 16 defensively. That's not good, no matter who the qb is.

Does that mean you'll quit extolling the virtues of Quincy in the last playoff season?

Bottom 16 defensive teams: 8-3
Top 16 defensive teams: 2-4 (includes playoff loss)
 

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DBoys;1228987 said:
You are to Romo like HH31 is to Vince Young. You claim to be Cowboys first but you are nothing but a troll. You point the finger at Romo and dismiss the fact that the OL was putrid. It is just like the people bashing TO you only take one instance to get your point across. The funny thing is you think you are making a point but to an intelligent fan you are only proving yourself wrong.

You can spin it anyway you want but the defense lost that game and had it been close in the 4th quarter I know Tony would of won the game for us. Why you ask? Because even after his struggles he got the job done against the Colts and Giants and stats don't tell that story.

That my friend is something Quincy never did.

You're kidding right. Quincy won without any backs in the same league as Jones/Barber and without a TO caliber receiver. He also won with less talent on defense and when Carolina, the Eagles, Vikings, Seattle,Patriots,The Bucs were all better teams than they are now, and it didn't take him 4 years to get on the field.
 

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kartr;1231303 said:
You're kidding right. Quincy won without any backs in the same league as Jones/Barber and without a TO caliber receiver. He also won with less talent on defense and when Carolina, the Eagles, Vikings, Seattle,Patriots,The Bucs were all better teams than they are now, and it didn't take him 4 years to get on the field.

Quincy didn't play against the Vikings or Seahawks and neither has Romo.

Galloway, Glenn and Bryant were a good trio of receivers.

It should have taken Quincy at least a year to see the field. Jerry was dumb and forced him into the game when he clearly was not ready.

Give it up. Quincy is gone out of the NFL and not likely to come back. I hope he straightens up his life and then if that does happen, maybe he will get another chance. It will be his 4th, which is more than most people get. His first is when Dallas drafted him, his second is when Bill Parcells did not cut him as most expected, but made him the starter and his third is when the Jets picked him up. He has blown each chance. He is not better than Romo. Maybe he could have been something except for his mental weakness of retreating when faced by challenges. Of course that is a big exception for any player to have especially one who plays QB in the NFL.
 

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joseephuss;1229468 said:
No doubt. Romo's 71 QB rating against playoff teams is still better than Drew's 69.2 rating for this season, not too far behind Bledsoe's career rating of 77.1 and much better than Drew's playoff career rating of 54.9. If someone wants to replace Romo with a better QB, I am all for it. Bledsoe is not a better QB.

Romo had a poor game and it still wasn't as poor as the defense's performance.

I don't think his performance up to this point has answered the question as to whether Dallas needs a QB or not for the future. The remaining 3 regular season games and any possible playoff games will go a long way to answering that.

I have liked what I have seen from Romo and am surprised at how well he has done this year. I lean toward him being the guy, but there is so little to go off of to make that assessment. Same can be said for him not being the guy. I don't know what information others have to ascertain that Dallas definitly needs to go find another QB. The Cowboys are 5-2 with Romo at the helm with good quality wins against Indy, Carolina and New York. That is impressive. Like I said, the remainder of the season will tell us a lot more about Romo. It still may not tell us everything, but we will know more now than we did at the beginning of the sesaon.

I beg to differ about Romo's wins over Indy,the Panthers and New York. Indy has lost 3 of their last four games, Carolina, 5 of their last seven and New York has won 1 of its last 4 and that was against Carolina. He's only beating teams who are already in a tailspin and he has an elite supporting cast. Their are a dozen or more qb's who could do what he is doing. He is better than Bledsoe, but only because Bledsoe hasn't done anything good in years. If Romo is an upgrade over Bledsoe, imagine how much more a 1st or 2nd or even 3rd round qb could do with our talent. Definitely time for an upgrade at that position.
 

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kartr;1231328 said:
I beg to differ about Romo's wins over Indy,the Panthers and New York. Indy has lost 3 of their last four games, Carolina, 5 of their last seven and New York has won 1 of its last 4 and that was against Carolina. He's only beating teams who are already in a tailspin and he has an elite supporting cast. Their are a dozen or more qb's who could do what he is doing. He is better than Bledsoe, but only because Bledsoe hasn't done anything good in years. If Romo is an upgrade over Bledsoe, imagine how much more a 1st or 2nd or even 3rd round qb could do with our talent. Definitely time for an upgrade at that position.

we put indy into that tailspin.

get over it - romo can play no matter how much that pisses you off.
 
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