Romo's Passer Rating Against Playoff Teams:

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EveryoneElse;1230353 said:
Thanks for yelling with the Caps.

If you don't believe me, search my posts. I promise you won't be dissapointed.

My only disapointment is that I ever got on this forum. You must be the smartest football mind in history to be the only person in America that didn't think the Panthers were a good team this year. I hope you find a job in football to be able to maximize the tallent the good Lord has given you.
 

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CowboyBlog;1225130 said:
Romo was leading the league in the passer rating stat.

Lets look further. Romo's passer rating against teams with winning records or possible playoff teams.

Giants
Colts
Panthers
Saints

4 Tds & 9 INTS


2 Td's against a prevent defense in the Giant Game​

1 Td Today that was a horrible throw that should have been picked off.​

1 TD = 3 yard pass to Witten against Carolina and they are below 500.​

ROMO'S PASSER RATING AGAINST WINNING TEAMS: 71.3



You can cuss at me all you want, but the stats dont lie. We better be looking to draft a QB or bring in a highly paid FA. He just doesn't throw the ball well down the field. Without recievers making plays, the dinks and dumps against last place teams just make stats rise and innocent fans happy, but good teams will beat you in the playoffs, or playoff type games. (tonight)

Next Two Weeks:
Atlanta = Winning Record
Philly = Winning Record

I say we pull the plug on the Romo experiment and go back to Bledsoe!

Munchis....Out!!
 

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No way! I don't want to watch Bledsoe being sacked for the rest of the year. Bledsoe is over, out and done.

Every QB has to go thru this. Romo is a gamer. You'll see.
 

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Haley94;1225146 said:
Romo will be fine. He needs to go thru this. He's a gamer and a hard worker.

I'm more concerned with our oline.

I'd rather him go through this now than in 4 weeks. There is still time to right the ship. I think it starts with .getting back to our run game some (totally lacked this against NO)
 

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I agree. We need to settle into our scheme. Romo is pressing. he needs to take some of the short stuff and then take his shots.
 

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gbrittain;1225473 said:
Well, lets see what the alternative is.

Bledsoe against playoff contending teams this year:

Jacksonville 45.8 QB rating
Phily 47.4 QB Rating
1/2 game against NY 58.3

From where I am sitting Romo is light years ahead of the alternative.



[FONT=&quot]NO kidding... No sane person would want to see Bledsoe under center again for this team.


LOL folks here are wasting there time trying to reason with this guy…. cowboyblog has been a Romo hater from day 1 been thru some lengthy battles with this genius on another site but he has been quite for the last couple of weeks… guess he feels safe to crawl from under his rock spewing this regurgitated backwash after we lose. I figure most of his animosity comes from Drew Bledsoe being his favorite Cowboy player and Romo has made him nothing more then a bench warmer. He thinks that Bledsoe gives us the best chance of winning.

Lets nitpick at everybody’s All American QB Tom Brady’s stats this year against some good teams.

Indy
Chicago
[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Miami[/FONT][FONT=&quot]
Jets

59.8 rating 2 TD’s 7 Int’s

According to him (cowboyblog) I’m sure NE will be looking for a QB in the draft or FA this year so maybe we can swing a trade for that bum of a QB Tom Brady.

How dose that sound cowboyblog? Forget it if your still smarting over him taking Bledsoe’s spot their too!!


According to you and your stats Drew Brees must be a less then avg QB... If you can sum up Romo after 6 starts I can only imigane the lable you would have put on Brees after his 1st 2 years of starting (didn't start as a rookie). 10 W 17 L and a out of this World passer rating of less then 60.0 vs winning teams.

Stats don’t lie but they don’t always tell the truth!

Just incase you misunderstood my point because of my sarcasm.... My point is you do not know what kind of QB Romo will end up being personally I feel the Cowboys have found a "Diamond in the Rough" but only time will tell... The one thing we ALL know for sure is right now Romo is better than Bledsoe for the Cowboys and that won’t change just because you don’t like it.[/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]
 

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Apluz;1230479 said:
[FONT=&quot]NO kidding... No sane person would want to see Bledsoe under center again for this team.[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]LOL folks here are wasting there time trying to reason with this guy…. cowboyblog has been a Romo hater from day 1 been thru some lengthy battles with this genius on another site but he has been quite for the last couple of weeks… guess he feels safe to crawl from under his rock spewing this regurgitated backwash after we lose. I figure most of his animosity comes from Drew Bledsoe being his favorite Cowboy player and Romo has made him nothing more then a bench warmer. He thinks that Bledsoe gives us the best chance of winning.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Lets nitpick at everybody’s All American QB Tom Brady’s stats this year against some good teams.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Indy[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Chicago[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Miami[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Jets[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]59.8 rating 2 TD’s 7 Int’s[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]According to him (cowboyblog) I’m sure NE will be looking for a QB in the draft or FA this year so maybe we can swing a trade for that bum of a QB Tom Brady. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]How dose that sound cowboyblog? Forget it if your still smarting over him taking Bledsoe’s spot their too!![/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]According to you and your stats Drew Brees must be a less then avg QB... If you can sum up Romo after 6 starts I can only imigane the lable you would have put on Brees after his 1st 2 years of starting (didn't start as a rookie). 10 W 17 L and a out of this World passer rating of less then 60.0 vs winning teams. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Stats don’t lie but they don’t always tell the truth![/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Just incase you misunderstood my point because of my sarcasm.... My point is you do not know what kind of QB Romo will end up being personally I feel the Cowboys have found a "Diamond in the Rough" but only time will tell... The one thing we ALL know for sure is right now Romo is better than Bledsoe for the Cowboys and that won’t change just because you don’t like it.[/FONT]

First problem is that anyone that wants Bledsoe back in there is not a sane person. Brady clearly needs to be replaced by Vinnie. After all, Vinny was a first round draft pick, and Brady was a 6th round pick. We all know from this post that draft status is the only indicator of how well someone will play in the league. Give em hell up there Vinny!
 

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Common sense should indicate that ANY QB is going to do better against weak opposition then playoff contenders. This whole thread is pointless.
 

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Haley94;1230433 said:
I agree. We need to settle into our scheme. Romo is pressing. he needs to take some of the short stuff and then take his shots.

This might be the most intelligent comment in this entire thread, not that that would be too difficultl! He does need to check down to the RB's some whether we are behind or not. However, he will learn this the more he plays. Unless, or course, he is replaced by Matt Baker. Wait, that could never happen because Baker was also an undrafted FA, and obviously undrafted FA's can't play in this league.
 

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itoldyouSOE;1230176 said:
Quality wins over Indy, Carolina, and NY??!!??

Against the vaunted Indy offense, the D gave up only 14 points! Considering Indy's defense sucks, I'd say its hard to lose when your D only allows 14 points against such a team. Even if you toss no TDs and 1 INT, as Romo did in this game!

Against Carolina, the defense gave up 10 points, and again people give all the credit to Romo (1 TD, 1 INT) but berate the defense. WHEN YOU ONLY GIVE UP 10 POINTS, YOU ARE GOING TO WIN THE GAME! Even if you only toss 1 TD!

And against NY, a team against which Romo has thrown 5 INTs and did not throw a TD in the recent win, the D allowed only 20 points and the Cowboys win. Did I mention Romo's 58.1 rating in this game? Or his lost fumble?

Yet he is the main reason for such success? That these "quality wins" can only be attributed to Romo is pure propaganda put forth by his worshippers.

I'm not saying he can't be the future QB, but he ain't Mr. Moxie as some people are desperately trying to prop him up as, just so they can say they were first to tell us so!

No where in my post did I say that Romo was the only reason Dallas beat Indy, Carolina or NY. No where did I say that the defense did not do very well in those games. He did play well in those game when it mattered. He was solid in the second half of all three games, especially in the 4th quarter. He also did not lose a fumble in the Giants game, that was in the Indy game.

The Colts defense is not bad. Their run defense is what is bad and is last in the league. As a pass defense, they are good and are 2nd in the league. Well, Dallas was not running the ball that well in the first half and turned to the pass, which as I pointed out is the Colt's strength. So, why don't you re-evaluate Romo's performance based on those facts.

Romo may not be the guy, but those 3 games don't point to him not doing well.
 

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No where in my post did I say that Romo was the only reason Dallas beat Indy, Carolina or NY. No where did I say that the defense did not do very well in those games. He did play well in those game when it mattered. He was solid in the second half of all three games, especially in the 4th quarter. He also did not lose a fumble in the Giants game, that was in the Indy game.

The Colts defense is not bad. Their run defense is what is bad and is last in the league. As a pass defense, they are good and are 2nd in the league. Well, Dallas was not running the ball that well in the first half and turned to the pass, which as I pointed out is the Colt's strength. So, why don't you re-evaluate Romo's performance based on those facts.

Romo may not be the guy, but those 3 games don't point to him not doing well.

Understood. But Indy's ranking in the pass defense is misleading. They are ranked 3rd because the NFL ranks defenses based on yards allowed. Well of course they are only going to rank 3rd because teams have only attempted 328 passes against them, good for the second fewest attempts against any team in the NFL! This does not mean they are good, it means smart teams are attacking the defense's biggest weakness: the run game. When we break things down a bit further, we see that their rankings are not consistent with the pass attempts against them. For example, if they are 2nd fewest in terms of attempts against, a good pass defense should also be around 2nd fewest in terms of yards per attempt allowed. Not so, Indy ranks 11th, still good, but not close to a team that has had so few attempts go against it. Same with passing TDs allowed, where they rank 9th. Their run defense, however, is consistent, as you noted. They rank 31st in terms of attempts against, and 32nd in yards, YPA, and TDs.

Anyway, this isn't about Indy. I'm sure Romo will have a good game against a poor Atlanta team and everyone will be hailing him as the Messiah again. If he doesn't, I'm sure the o-line and defense will bear the blame from many on this board.
 

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itoldyouSOE;1230682 said:
Understood. But Indy's ranking in the pass defense is misleading. They are ranked 3rd because the NFL ranks defenses based on yards allowed. Well of course they are only going to rank 3rd because teams have only attempted 328 passes against them, good for the second fewest attempts against any team in the NFL! This does not mean they are good, it means smart teams are attacking the defense's biggest weakness: the run game. When we break things down a bit further, we see that their rankings are not consistent with the pass attempts against them. For example, if they are 2nd fewest in terms of attempts against, a good pass defense should also be around 2nd fewest in terms of yards per attempt allowed. Not so, Indy ranks 11th, still good, but not close to a team that has had so few attempts go against it. Same with passing TDs allowed, where they rank 9th. Their run defense, however, is consistent, as you noted. They rank 31st in terms of attempts against, and 32nd in yards, YPA, and TDs.

Anyway, this isn't about Indy. I'm sure Romo will have a good game against a poor Atlanta team and everyone will be hailing him as the Messiah again. If he doesn't, I'm sure the o-line and defense will bear the blame from many on this board.

the defense gave up how many points? no "sane" person is saying romo won't run into problems, no sane person is calling for bledsoe to come back (and i do mean NO SANE PERSON is doing this) but to say that the defense hasn't played up to potential at times lately and that the OL isn't an issue *still* - well, i just can't do that.

we lost the saints game as a team, nothing more, nothing less. we should also know we've got room to improve and we should keep trying to do just that.

that's all.

all this troll feeding is what brings a board down.
 

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CowboyBlog;1228448 said:
It is funny to see the reactions of the people that are Romo fans first, Cowboys fans second.


He is not the answer, lets move on.

Exactly, he is a 'limited athlete'. All the moxie and hard work are wasted when you are out of your league. Shawn Payton said they simply didn't let him get outside to make his throws. Can you imagine Payton saying that about Vince Young or McNabb? No. The elite athlete can come up with an answer for virtually everything you do to him. If Romo rolls out to the right, he can only throw right, and he's easily contained because he doesn't have elite speed or size or arm strength. His success is mainly based on how bad the teams we've beaten are playing and the fact that we have an elite supporting cast for him. That's why Parcells said that he can drive a cadillac,but not a Ford. Against the Saints, who are not elite, he couldn't even drive the Cadillac.
 

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Exactly, he is a 'limited athlete'. All the moxie and hard work are wasted when you are out of your league. Shawn Payton said they simply didn't let him get outside to make his throws. Can you imagine Payton saying that about Vince Young or McNabb? No. The elite athlete can come up with an answer for virtually everything you do to him. If Romo rolls out to the right, he can only throw right, and he's easily contained because he doesn't have elite speed or size or arm strength. His success is mainly based on how bad the teams we've beaten are playing and the fact that we have an elite supporting cast for him. That's why Parcells said that he can drive a cadillac,but not a Ford. Against the Saints, who are not elite, he couldn't even drive the Cadillac.

Your so full of it, you have no clue as to what your talking about. To you this is all about black QB and nothing more talk about a sorry excuse for a fan. Your posting makes me sick every time you start up with this crud.
 

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kartr;1230754 said:
Exactly, he is a 'limited athlete'. All the moxie and hard work are wasted when you are out of your league. Shawn Payton said they simply didn't let him get outside to make his throws. Can you imagine Payton saying that about Vince Young or McNabb? No. The elite athlete can come up with an answer for virtually everything you do to him. If Romo rolls out to the right, he can only throw right, and he's easily contained because he doesn't have elite speed or size or arm strength. His success is mainly based on how bad the teams we've beaten are playing and the fact that we have an elite supporting cast for him. That's why Parcells said that he can drive a cadillac,but not a Ford. Against the Saints, who are not elite, he couldn't even drive the Cadillac.

what has mcnabb won? young to this point? (he may, but you're just wizzin in the wind at this point cause you're pissed your carter blow up doll is almost beyond repair) vick? what has any "complete athelete" won overall?

you're mad carter didn't pan out. that's carters fault, now quit blaming every white qb for being white while you whine about your own boys failure.

gets old.
 

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Doomsday101;1230755 said:
Your so full of it, you have no clue as to what your talking about. To you this is all about black QB and nothing more talk about a sorry excuse for a fan. Your posting makes me sick every time you start up with this crud.
What's funny is that he's agreeing with a guy who's a Bledsoe shill. :laugh2:
 

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kartr;1230754 said:
Exactly, he is a 'limited athlete'. All the moxie and hard work are wasted when you are out of your league. Shawn Payton said they simply didn't let him get outside to make his throws. Can you imagine Payton saying that about Vince Young or McNabb? No.

You must have fell and bumped your head if you can't imagine Payton telling his defenses to contain Young or McNabb in the pocket....doing so increases your chances of beating them big time... Not because they can’t pass from the pocket but a good QB's with mobility can get out of the pocket buy time for their WR’s and that can lead to big plays.
 

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Exactly, he is a 'limited athlete'. All the moxie and hard work are wasted when you are out of your league. Shawn Payton said they simply didn't let him get outside to make his throws. Can you imagine Payton saying that about Vince Young or McNabb?

Would be the same "Shawn" Payton who tried to trade for Romo first thing once he arrived to New Orleans?
 
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