Romo's Passer Rating Against Playoff Teams:

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smarta5150;1225135 said:
Funny how quickly things turn around here.

Kinda makes me sick.

..........exactly........
 

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CowboysFaninDC;1230061 said:
do me a favor. can you do the same thing for all other QBs against playoff teams?

I just wish he would do for his boy Bledsoe. No one is propping up Romo. He had a bad game against New Orleans, but he has been pretty awesome since his first start.
 

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CowboyBlog;1225130 said:
Romo was leading the league in the passer rating stat.

Lets look further. Romo's passer rating against teams with winning records or possible playoff teams.

Giants
Colts
Panthers
Saints

4 Tds & 9 INTS

2 Td's against a prevent defense in the Giant Game
1 Td Today that was a horrible throw that should have been picked off.
1 TD = 3 yard pass to Witten against Carolina and they are below 500.

ROMO'S PASSER RATING AGAINST WINNING TEAMS: 71.3



You can cuss at me all you want, but the stats dont lie. We better be looking to draft a QB or bring in a highly paid FA. He just doesn't throw the ball well down the field. Without recievers making plays, the dinks and dumps against last place teams just make stats rise and innocent fans happy, but good teams will beat you in the playoffs, or playoff type games. (tonight)

Next Two Weeks:
Atlanta = Winning Record
Philly = Winning Record


I don't know whats in store for us fans the last three weeks(most likely playoffs too) or for years to come for that matter.....

But those are some ugly numbers.

I can't tell what Tony Romo is yet.
 

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EveryoneElse;1230100 said:
I don't know whats in store for us fans the last three weeks(most likely playoffs too) or for years to come for that matter.....

But those are some ugly numbers.

I can't tell what Tony Romo is yet.

Very reasonable and spot on.

I suspect he'll get a chance to show us. We may look like a completely different team Sat nite. Hopefully that will be better and not worse.
 

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joseephuss;1229468 said:
No doubt. Romo's 71 QB rating against playoff teams is still better than Drew's 69.2 rating for this season, not too far behind Bledsoe's career rating of 77.1 and much better than Drew's playoff career rating of 54.9. If someone wants to replace Romo with a better QB, I am all for it. Bledsoe is not a better QB.

Romo had a poor game and it still wasn't as poor as the defense's performance.

I don't think his performance up to this point has answered the question as to whether Dallas needs a QB or not for the future. The remaining 3 regular season games and any possible playoff games will go a long way to answering that.

I have liked what I have seen from Romo and am surprised at how well he has done this year. I lean toward him being the guy, but there is so little to go off of to make that assessment. Same can be said for him not being the guy. I don't know what information others have to ascertain that Dallas definitly needs to go find another QB. The Cowboys are 5-2 with Romo at the helm with good quality wins against Indy, Carolina and New York. That is impressive. Like I said, the remainder of the season will tell us a lot more about Romo. It still may not tell us everything, but we will know more now than we did at the beginning of the sesaon.

Quality wins over Indy, Carolina, and NY??!!??

Against the vaunted Indy offense, the D gave up only 14 points! Considering Indy's defense sucks, I'd say its hard to lose when your D only allows 14 points against such a team. Even if you toss no TDs and 1 INT, as Romo did in this game!

Against Carolina, the defense gave up 10 points, and again people give all the credit to Romo (1 TD, 1 INT) but berate the defense. WHEN YOU ONLY GIVE UP 10 POINTS, YOU ARE GOING TO WIN THE GAME! Even if you only toss 1 TD!

And against NY, a team against which Romo has thrown 5 INTs and did not throw a TD in the recent win, the D allowed only 20 points and the Cowboys win. Did I mention Romo's 58.1 rating in this game? Or his lost fumble?

Yet he is the main reason for such success? That these "quality wins" can only be attributed to Romo is pure propaganda put forth by his worshippers.

I'm not saying he can't be the future QB, but he ain't Mr. Moxie as some people are desperately trying to prop him up as, just so they can say they were first to tell us so!
 

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itoldyouSOE;1230176 said:
Quality wins over Indy, Carolina, and NY??!!??


I think everyone can stop labeling the Carolina win as "Quality"

I didn't consider it one then, and I don't consider it one now. Big win yes....over a good team? No.
 

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CowboyBlog;1225150 said:
He is an average QB, nothing more nothing less. He looks great at times and looks horrible at times. Like any other average QB in the league, he tends to have bad games against good teams and good games against bad teams.

I have nothing against him, I'm just pointing this out again to the fans.


how did troy aikman do in his first six games????
 

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itoldyouSOE;1230176 said:
Quality wins over Indy, Carolina, and NY??!!??

Against the vaunted Indy offense, the D gave up only 14 points! Considering Indy's defense sucks, I'd say its hard to lose when your D only allows 14 points against such a team. Even if you toss no TDs and 1 INT, as Romo did in this game!

Against Carolina, the defense gave up 10 points, and again people give all the credit to Romo (1 TD, 1 INT) but berate the defense. WHEN YOU ONLY GIVE UP 10 POINTS, YOU ARE GOING TO WIN THE GAME! Even if you only toss 1 TD!

And against NY, a team against which Romo has thrown 5 INTs and did not throw a TD in the recent win, the D allowed only 20 points and the Cowboys win. Did I mention Romo's 58.1 rating in this game? Or his lost fumble?

Yet he is the main reason for such success? That these "quality wins" can only be attributed to Romo is pure propaganda put forth by his worshippers.

I'm not saying he can't be the future QB, but he ain't Mr. Moxie as some people are desperately trying to prop him up as, just so they can say they were first to tell us so!

Sounds like to me you are the one that likes to say "Itoldyousoe".

There is a lot of football remaining before Romo goes to "Canton" or not. However, only a blind man would deny the fact that it was Romo who turned the whole season around. Of course it is a team sport, but individuals can be the catalyst as Parcells likes to say.

Clearly this team has been a different team since Romo became the starter (aside from the Saints game). That game was bad on so many levels. I can not think of anyone from coaching, players, kickers, waterboy, and heck even Rowdy the mascot, that had a good game. Stupid mascot signaling incomplete pass to the Saints defender who had just successfully defended one of our passed in the end zone.
 

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felix360;1230182 said:
how did troy aikman do in his first six games????

I would not mind him showing me all the QBs who have had a better start than Romo. Six games does not make a career just like one bad game against the Saints does not make you back up material.
 

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gbrittain;1230198 said:
I would not mind him showing me all the QBs who have had a better start than Romo. Six games does not make a career just like one bad game against the Saints does not make you back up material.

Exactly, which is why people who have Romo hysteria need to settle down a bit and also look at the numbers.
 

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I think you were being a little unfair including Romo's numbers against Carolina. You weren't being strict enough. I'll just look at how he did against teams who would make the playoffs if the season ended today.

And let's use this same standard to expose a couple of other QB's while we're at it...

Tony Romo
69 of 115 959 yards 60% 8.3ypa 3td 8int 66.5
Peyton Manning
118 of 217 1,571 yards 54% 7.2ypa 7td 6int 76.8
Tom Brady
57 of 94 656 yards 61% 7.0ypa 3td 7int 61.3
 

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EveryoneElse;1230177 said:
I think everyone can stop labeling the Carolina win as "Quality"

I didn't consider it one then, and I don't consider it one now. Big win yes....over a good team? No.

The Panthers were 4-3, and had won 4 out of 5 when we played them. They were one week removed from beating Baltimore at Baltimore. I don't see how you can discard that win by looking at their record now. Also, they lost the first 2 of the year without Steve Smith. If you didn't consider it a quality win then what would a quality win be?
 

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Rack;1225174 said:
Find me the greatest QB of all time, and I'll show you an average or less QB if you don't give him solid protection.
Archie Manning had no protection whatsoever with the Saints, he learned how to run to avoid the hit.

Romo is a good QB who couldn't get a good rhythm going. Other teams have noticed that if they keep him in the pocket he doesn't do much because most of his production comes outside the pocket. Mobility was the reason for the switch correct???....be careful what you ask for.
 

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archie manning???? when r u going to leave we r tired of hearing this junk go back to the swamps
 

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SaintsFan2212;1230263 said:
Archie Manning had no protection whatsoever with the Saints, he learned how to run to avoid the hit.

Romo is a good QB who couldn't get a good rhythm going. Other teams have noticed that if they keep him in the pocket he doesn't do much because most of his production comes outside the pocket. Mobility was the reason for the switch correct???....be careful what you ask for.

A lot of good it did him down there. I don't think the switch to Romo was ONLY about his mobility. If so, let's go get Ben Johnson, I'm sure he could move around back there.
 

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alancdc;1230256 said:
The Panthers were 4-3, and had won 4 out of 5 when we played them. They were one week removed from beating Baltimore at Baltimore. I don't see how you can discard that win by looking at their record now. Also, they lost the first 2 of the year without Steve Smith. If you didn't consider it a quality win then what would a quality win be?

I had a lengthy debate on this board about not considering Carolina a "Good team" right after we beat them and they were leading their division.

I don't, and haven't considered them a good team or any kind of measuring stick for how great we are.

Carolina is an average team at best.
 

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EveryoneElse;1230321 said:
I had a lengthy debate on this board about not considering Carolina a "Good team" right after we beat them and they were leading their division.

I don't, and haven't considered them a good team or any kind of measuring stick for how great we are.

Carolina is an average team at best.

Hindsight man we all would have bought Microsoft. I guess you are a better predictor of teams than, I don't know, every magazine and nearly every "expert" on an NFL show? Keep in mind that unlike us, the Panthers BEAT the SAINTS, but I guess somehow that doesn't count.
 

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alancdc;1230334 said:
Hindsight man we all would have bought Microsoft. I guess you are a better predictor of teams than, I don't know, every magazine and nearly every "expert" on an NFL show? Keep in mind that unlike us, the Panthers BEAT the SAINTS, but I guess somehow that doesn't count.


We lost to the Commanders.....does that mean the skins are a better team than we are?

The Saints lost to the Panthers.....you can't win them all.
 

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EveryoneElse;1230343 said:
We lost to the Commanders.....does that mean the skins are a better team than we are?

The Saints lost to the Panthers.....you can't win them all.

No, but you said that YOU KNEW THE PANTHERS WERE NOT A GOOD TEAM WHEN WE PLAYED THEM. I am just curious as to when WE PLAYED THEM WHY YOU WOULD COME TO THAT CONCLUSION WHEN THEY HAD JUST BEATEN THE Ravens and the SAINTS! This is like Groundhog Day and I'm Bill Murray. I swear this is the most irrational bunch. I am truly sorry I ever got on this site. This is a joke. A bunch of know it all sensationalists.
 

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alancdc;1230350 said:
No, but you said that YOU KNEW THE PANTHERS WERE NOT A GOOD TEAM WHEN WE PLAYED THEM. I am just curious as to when WE PLAYED THEM WHY YOU WOULD COME TO THAT CONCLUSION WHEN THEY HAD JUST BEATEN THE Ravens and the SAINTS! This is like Groundhog Day and I'm Bill Murray. I swear this is the most irrational bunch. I am truly sorry I ever got on this site. This is a joke. A bunch of know it all sensationalists.


Thanks for yelling with the Caps.

If you don't believe me, search my posts. I promise you won't be dissapointed.
 
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