Romo's peak already passed?

[Cebrin]

i think if our defense could keep a friggin lead romo pained his way into the results would be telling and people would get off romo's jock.

Not to mention if our running game can keep a lead.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Not to mention if our running game can keep a lead.

I think the more relevant question is, will our team invest in the running game?

 

[Cebrin]

I wouldn't say for a minute he's past his peak until you watch him this season. Is he as fast? Maybe not but, he's every bit as elusive. The deep ball I doubt has much to do with his choice as it does coaching. It did just "magically" stop. However, I bet Linehan brings it back. At least I am hoping.

 

[Cebrin]

I think the more relevant question is, will our team invest in the running game?

Part of what I meant but, worded better. We did have 9 rushing TD's and over a 1,000 yds rushing. That's a look in the right direction.

 

[iceberg]

Not to mention if our running game can keep a lead.

well, the coaches have to USE a running game, but the point i'm making is that however we get the lead, the defense has been hellbent on giving it back as quickly as they could.

 

[mmillman]

I was listening to an old around the league pod cast from a few days ago and one of the guys made argument that Romo's peak has passed. Not as good as he was 5 years ago. Said last 2 years were his worst.

What do you guys think. His yards per attempt were much lower last year than ever before. But he has less interceptions and plays it safer which I like.

Whether he's passed his peak or not, I don't think he's the only reason we'll lose games this season and definitely not the biggest reason. I'm looking toward the defense for that.

Guys don't get better at that age. You can have better players around you and look better but his arm, reflexes, legs, etc........... are all slower.

 

[Idgit]

He looked off most of last season to me. Diminished. But I do think it was related to discomfort.

He looks fit now, anyway. I hope he's pain-free, because I'm looking for big things, offensively, and it obviously all starts with him.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

It's an interesting question. If you have a choice between a supremely "physically" talented QB and a very "Football" intelligent QB, which one do you go with? Obviously, you can't have a Genius that can't get out of the way of his own two feet but somebody who may not be as physically gifted but is really smart, who do you go with?

 

[Cebrin]

well, the coaches have to USE a running game, but the point i'm making is that however we get the lead, the defense has been hellbent on giving it back as quickly as they could.

Our defense is awful. 3rd worst in history. Factor in that we've now lost our best 3 players (Ware, Hatcher, Lee) and we could wind up worse unless Marinelli produces miracles.

 

[DogFace]

Well P. Manning was past his peak and look at his season last year.
Peak is overrated.

"Peak is overrated". Never thought of that but very true.

 

[ufcrules1]

I think that this was always true. However, I also believe that if you are strong on both sides of the line, you can find a way to make the other parts work. To me, strong Offensive Line Play is the most important part of building a Football team. If you have
, together with a good QB and a sound Front Office and Coaching Staff, you can win a lot of games.

Looks like we won't be winning many then.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Looks like we won't be winning many then.

Maybe. I guess that's why you play the games.

 

[DFWJC]

It's an interesting question. If you have a choice between a supremely "physically" talented QB and a very "Football" intelligent QB, which one do you go with? Obviously, you can't have a Genius that can't get out of the way of his own two feet but somebody who may not be as physically gifted but is really smart, who do you go with?

Peyton Manning is the extreme case for the brain on this one. His arm is not remotely strong anymore. He's slow as molasses. And even his accuracy is not what it once was at its peak.
Yet he had one the best seasons of any QB in the history of the game last year.
But again, that is an extreme case.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

He is nowhere near his peak anymore. His footwork isn't as good in the pocket as it once was and he's slower into the pocket. I think it was a combination of rampant shotgun formations and taking a beating from all of the blitzing he faced.

Typically, young QB's look deep and if it's not there they'll take off running with the ball or force it in there. Older QB's look deep and then go into the checkdown too early. I think Romo is now the latter. He missed Dez being open, a lot, last season.

He used to be really great at finding the open receiver very quickly. Now he seems more into scanning the field. I think the gameplan against him is to blitz and switch up the coverages early on and figure out where he's likely going with the ball. Then eventually switch the coverage and blitz and bait him into a throw the defense knows is coming.

That and you can go the Dom Capers route of blitzing all of the time and knowing that Romo and Garrett will not run the ball to keep the defense honest.





YR

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

He is nowhere near his peak anymore. His footwork isn't as good in the pocket as it once was and he's slower into the pocket. I think it was a combination of rampant shotgun formations and taking a beating from all of the blitzing he faced.

Typically, young QB's look deep and if it's not there they'll take off running with the ball or force it in there. Older QB's look deep and then go into the checkdown too early. I think Romo is now the latter. He missed Dez being open, a lot, last season.

He used to be really great at finding the open receiver very quickly. Now he seems more into scanning the field. I think the gameplan against him is to blitz and switch up the coverages early on and figure out where he's likely going with the ball. Then eventually switch the coverage and blitz and bait him into a throw the defense knows is coming.

That and you can go the Dom Capers route of blitzing all of the time and knowing that Romo and Garrett will not run the ball to keep the defense honest.





YR

I agree with all of this. Seems simple and yet we always seem to miss the obvious. It's hard to watch sometimes.

 

[12+88=7]

Here are Romo's numbers the last two years.

767 completions, 1183 attempts, 64.8 completion%, 8731 yards, 7.38 YPA, 59 TDs, 29 INTs, 93.27 QB rating.

Here are Romo's numbers for 2007 & 2009 combined.

682 completions, 1070 attempts, 63.7 completion%, 8694 yards, 8.12 YPA, 62 TDs, 28 INTs, 97.46 QB rating.

Not much difference in those numbers.

The only difference is in the wins and losses. Last two years 16-16, 2007 & 2009 24-8.

Fix the defense and the perception that Romo is on the decline will disappear.

I personally don't believe Romo is on the decline.

 

[Staubacher]

Peyton Manning is the extreme case for the brain on this one. His arm is not remotely strong anymore. He's slow as molasses. And even his accuracy is not what it once was at its peak.
Yet he had one the best seasons of any QB in the history of the game last year.
But again, that is an extreme case.

Yeah it's freakish actually. The key is he hardly ever has to move around, he gets rid of it quick, and there always seems to be wide open receivers in his offensive scheme.

Except for the Seattle Super Bowl game lol. They dissected him to shreds.

 

[silver]

Mentally yes, he's at his peak. Physically he's past his peak. So maybe this year he puts it all together and we win it all. He finally has the OL any QB dreams of having. He should have plenty of time to pick defenses apart. Now if only the D can hold up a lead we can make a run.

 

[big dog cowboy]

He looked off most of last season to me. Diminished. But I do think it was related to discomfort.

I said that all last year. You could really tell on his deep ball. He played very very well. Still put up amazing numbers.

 

[Staubacher]

Mentally yes, he's at his peak. Physically he's past his peak. So maybe this year he puts it all together and we win it all. He finally has the OL any QB dreams of having. He should have plenty of time to pick defenses apart. Now if only the D can hold up a lead we can make a run.

Good points. The D definitely can't be all-time bad like last year. Romo went 8-7 with an historically awful defense, something even Drew Brees couldn't do a year before.