Ron Rivera: Next HC?

[Yeagermeister]

Count me in on the "Hire Ron Rivera" Bandwagon.

1. He has led the Chicago defense (05-06) to dominance running the 3-4, while it would be nice to switch back to the 4-3 it's not realistic.

2. He is 44 years old. Perfect age.

3. He's come up through the ranks. He played on the 85 Bears, he went to Philly and helped make their linebackers including Trotter dominant, etc.

4. He's been passed over by the Arizona Cardinals so he HAS to be good.... hire him now Jerry! LOL


:laugh2:

I could stomach that better than some of the other names being thrown around.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Wouldn't we have to wait 2 more weeks to sign him as you cannot sign a guy from a team that is still alive.

 

[Cliff]

I'm pretty sure the Bears do not run the 3-4.

cover-2.... i don't think we have the speed at lb to make that work

 

[Cliff]

Wouldn't we have to wait 2 more weeks to sign him as you cannot sign a guy from a team that is still alive.

i don't think we would have to wait.... i due believe every1 knew norv and wanna were gone long before the SB game was actually played....

 

[SkinsandTerps]

i don't think we would have to wait.... i due believe every1 knew norv and wanna were gone long before the SB game was actually played....

Yet technically it wasnt official until after the game was played.

So you would have to wait.

 

[stiletto]

I'm pretty sure the Bears do not run the 3-4.

You might be right. I'm not totally familiar with their defensive scheme but we all have to like their results. It would be hard to move back to the 4-3 but I guess WE DO have the personnel to do it?

 

[Cliff]

You might be right. I'm not totally familiar with their defensive scheme but we all have to like their results. It would be hard to move back to the 4-3 but I guess WE DO have the personnel to do it?

they run the cover-2.... need F-A-S-T/Q-U-I-C-K lbs to run that scheme - lbs who CAN cover.... read: our sorepoint

 

[Future]

they run the cover-2.... need F-A-S-T/Q-U-I-C-K lbs to run that scheme - lbs who CAN cover.... read: our sorepoint

ware, burnett, carpenter, ayodele all have the ability to cover imo

 

[Cliff]

ware, burnett, carpenter, ayodele all have the ability to cover imo

ware should very rarely be used in coverage - utter waste of his talents.... burnett - :laugh2: .... caro - perhaps, jury's still out.... akin - maybe....

 

[Da Hammer]

Since everybody is making their own thread on who they want as HC then i will do the same as well.

I have been saying this ever since we lost. Rivera obviously has a lot of talent in Chicago but the guy deserves a lot of credit for some of the schemes he is able to come up with especially being able to stop one of the best offenses in the NFL yesterday with key players out. and his Bears D is always among the top leaders in Turnovers and Sacks. Which i consider is one of the most important things in having a Championship Defense. the Pats and Steelers are all about getting pressure to cause sacks and turnovers and no shock they have won SB's the last couple of years. Also his players are as disciplined as any players in the league and hardly commit any penalties. He would be perfect with Singletary as DC. They would bring a fire and discipline to this team that would just be scary!!!!!!!

 

[Cochese]

Rivera is a good choice, but I dont think we have the right players for the Tampa2 defense.

 

[kingwhicker]

I'd be very happy with Rivera.

 

[BlueDemon]

Rivera is a NO GO - he's a 4-3 Guy Jerry has INSISTED the next coach be a 3-4 Guy :bang2:

 

[Cochese]

ware, burnett, carpenter, ayodele all have the ability to cover imo

The reason that the Bears version of the Tampa 2 works so well is that Urlacher is one of the fastest linebackers in the league. He has responsibility to look out for the run, and to get into middle of the field to protect against the pass, we dont have anyone like this on our roster. We have so much tied up into 3-4 players that the tampa 2 would never work.

James is far too slow, Ayodele isnt fast enough, we spent 2 years making Ware a 3-4 OLB changing it now would be stupidity, we dont have proper 4-3 ends, we dont have proper 4-3 defensive tackles.

The thought of Rivera is a good one, but once you look at the details, his defensive style would most likely not work here.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

Rivera is a good choice, but I dont think we have the right players for the Tampa2 defense.

I don't know about that. As much I liked Parcells, I was not thrilled with some of his schemes. We have a wealth of talent on this team. I think one of Parcells biggest problems was he didn't hire very good assistants. I think with the right assistants, that know how to teach the cover 2, we can be very successful. If we go back to the 43, here is what I see.

DE Ware and Hatcher
DT-Fergy and canty with strong rotation from Spears and Ratliff and coleman and Bowman
Mike- James
Sam-Akin
Will-Carp
I think we would have to get a LB in FA or draft to rotate with Burnett
CB -Newman and Henry Glenn as nickel, and draft a CB
SS-Roy Williams, who played pretty well in the 4-3 in the past
FS- Watkins

I don't see any reason that we can run the 4-3 if a new coach wants to and it will not set us back.

 

[tyke1doe]

What we don't need is a RETREAD! We don't need Phillips, Turner, Martz, Marriucci, etc. How many had even heard of Mike Tomlin before the Steelers hired him? I swear I had not heard of him.

Belichick was a retread - awful in his first HC job, brilliant in his second. :

 

[Cowboy4ever]

The reason that the Bears version of the Tampa 2 works so well is that Urlacher is one of the fastest linebackers in the league. He has responsibility to look out for the run, and to get into middle of the field to protect against the pass, we dont have anyone like this on our roster. We have so much tied up into 3-4 players that the tampa 2 would never work.

James is far too slow, Ayodele isnt fast enough, we spent 2 years making Ware a 3-4 OLB changing it now would be stupidity, we dont have proper 4-3 ends, we dont have proper 4-3 defensive tackles.

The thought of Rivera is a good one, but once you look at the details, his defensive style would most likely not work here.

There are plenty of teams that don't someone has fast as Brian U on their D. You can't put all the success on one player. The 4-3 would work here.. with the talent we have on this D today,, not to mention what we could get in FA and the Draft.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Please don't give me no lame excuse

Watch those double negatives!!!
Our society depends on credible English!!!

Oh, yes, those geniuses Wannstadt/Norval have a combined winning percentage of what? 40%? Wannstad stunk it up in Chicago and Miami. Norval stunk it up in Oakland and Washington. And Bates was great as HC . . . where? Unless they coach under Jimma, they won't be no good ever (excuse my triple negative.)

As for Ferguson, wasn't he the one who consistently could not achieve a defensive push up the middle?

I do agree about Rivera/Kosier. Those two are not worth a warm bucket of spit.

 

[Portland Fanatic]

I don't know about that. As much I liked Parcells, I was not thrilled with some of his schemes. We have a wealth of talent on this team. I think one of Parcells biggest problems was he didn't hire very good assistants. I think with the right assistants, that know how to teach the cover 2, we can be very successful. If we go back to the 43, here is what I see.

DE Ware and Hatcher
DT-Fergy and canty with strong rotation from Spears and Ratliff and coleman and Bowman
Mike- James
Sam-Akin
Will-Carp
I think we would have to get a LB in FA or draft to rotate with Burnett
CB -Newman and Henry Glenn as nickel, and draft a CB
SS-Roy Williams, who played pretty well in the 4-3 in the past
FS- Watkins

I don't see any reason that we can run the 4-3 if a new coach wants to and it will not set us back.

For the most part I agree, but I'd change it a bit:

LDE - Spears and Hatcher (occasional Hatcher relieving Ware at RDE)
DT - Fergi, Canty, Ratlif...need another stud in here too.
RDE - Ware...with Hatcher in backup

WLB - Ayedele
MLB - Carp
SLB - Burnett

CB - Newman
FS - Henry, Watkins
SS - Roy, Davis
CB - Draft or FA, or Glen

Maybe Spears is better inside at DT...but something like the above would be fine. Carp has more speed then Bradie and can cover much better, so he has to clog the middle. Burnett is the best cover LB on the team, so SLB for him. James is WLB with Ayedele or trade bait.

 

[Cochese]

I don't know about that. As much I liked Parcells, I was not thrilled with some of his schemes. We have a wealth of talent on this team. I think one of Parcells biggest problems was he didn't hire very good assistants. I think with the right assistants, that know how to teach the cover 2, we can be very successful. If we go back to the 43, here is what I see.

DE Ware and Hatcher
DT-Fergy and canty with strong rotation from Spears and Ratliff and coleman and Bowman
Mike- James
Sam-Akin
Will-Carp
I think we would have to get a LB in FA or draft to rotate with Burnett
CB -Newman and Henry Glenn as nickel, and draft a CB
SS-Roy Williams, who played pretty well in the 4-3 in the past
FS- Watkins

I don't see any reason that we can run the 4-3 if a new coach wants to and it will not set us back.

I just dont see it, these madden style position changes just arent realistic. Hatcher as a 4-3 defensive end? They have to actually get after the QB in a 4-3. Besides that, Ware is an OLB we spent two years making him the best in the league changing it now is silly. Fergy is a 3-4 nosetackle, Canty is a 3-4 end, Spears is a 3-4 end, Coleman is an end, and you want them to play as defensive tackles in the 4-3? I dont think it will ever work out.