Rototimes RUMOR: 2008 3rd and 2009 5th for pac... Jerry don't go there!

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Rototimes has no credibility. RotoWORLD reports from other news agencies Rototimes is a waste of time.
 

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RealCowboyfan;2035681 said:
I like Pac Man Jones.... I really like Pac Man Jones, BUT Jerry Jones would be litterally out of his damn mind if he trades a 3rd round draft choice off for him.... I rather for Jerry just to take a chance on him getting released than trading a 3rd round off... Hell with that. Don't do it Jerry, we could draft a valueable player with that 3rd round draft choice...

make that 9 or 10 now

as for the bolded comment...yeah, we can hardly do without the likes of Stephen Peterman, Steve Scifres, Stepfret Williams, James Marten (ok, so nobody knows about him yet but thats part of the point), Derek Ross or Willie Balde...in fact since 2000 the only REAL quality player we've got in the 3rd rd is Jason Witten...and in spite of all the love in this forum for Hatcher, right now he is what he is...a backup DL

who cares of they traded a late 3rd rd pick for Adam Jones? If they pretty much know he's gonna be reinstated (and I'd bet they probably know, despite Goodells public comments) he's probably worth it as long as he stays out of trouble

David
 

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Cajuncowboy;2035683 said:
Don't know if they are buying. Just stating their displeasure with the whole idea of it.
Right on the money. sometimes i worry Jerry win now will get us in lot's of trouble.
 

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haha i guess im crazy, i dont see anything wrong with that.

I think Pacman is a better player than any 3rd or 5th rounders
 

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dbair1967;2035687 said:
make that 9 or 10 now

as for the bolded comment...yeah, we can hardly do without the likes of Stephen Peterman, Steve Scifres, Stepfret Williams, James Marten (ok, so nobody knows about him yet but thats part of the point), Derek Ross or Willie Balde...in fact since 2000 the only REAL quality player we've got in the 3rd rd is Jason Witten...and in spite of all the love in this forum for Hatcher, right now he is what he is...a backup DL

who cares of they traded a late 3rd rd pick for Adam Jones? If they pretty much know he's gonna be reinstated (and I'd bet they probably know, despite Goodells public comments) he's probably worth it as long as he stays out of trouble

David

I don't like the idea of a 3rd round pick being traded for Jones but I'm willing to bet no matter what pick ends up making the deal Jerry is going to find a way to replace it.
 

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cowboyrock;2035689 said:
Right on the money. sometimes i worry Jerry win now will get us in lot's of trouble.

how could giving up a late 3rd rd pick for a proven NFL CB get us in trouble?

really folks...I doubt its true, but even if it were...its not like he's giving up a premium pick in the draft

David
 

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dbair1967;2035687 said:
make that 9 or 10 now

as for the bolded comment...yeah, we can hardly do without the likes of Stephen Peterman, Steve Scifres, Stepfret Williams, James Marten (ok, so nobody knows about him yet but thats part of the point), Derek Ross or Willie Balde...in fact since 2000 the only REAL quality player we've got in the 3rd rd is Jason Witten...and in spite of all the love in this forum for Hatcher, right now he is what he is...a backup DL

who cares of they traded a late 3rd rd pick for Adam Jones? If they pretty much know he's gonna be reinstated (and I'd bet they probably know, despite Goodells public comments) he's probably worth it as long as he stays out of trouble

David

We did get Chris Canty in the 4th round.
 

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dbair1967;2035693 said:
how could giving up a late 3rd rd pick for a proven NFL CB get us in trouble?

really folks...I doubt its true, but even if it were...its not like he's giving up a premium pick in the draft

David

Our third is the 93rd pick of the draft and still one of the top 100. Thta is still prime talent. heck if you scout well there is still talent in the fourth to be had. Saying a third is not a premium pick is absurd.

Moss went for a fourth, TO went for a 5th. If we give up a third, I for one will be pissed.

You sound like a Titans fan matter of fact. This is exaclty what they say. There is another side to that coin. If he gets in trouple again that means we lose a top 100 pick AND have nothing to show for it because hes BANNED.
 

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Cajuncowboy;2035695 said:
We did get Chris Canty in the 4th round.

we got MBIII in the 4th rd too, but that has nothing to do with a 3rd rounder

we've found a few good one's in the 3rd...but for the most part our 3rd rd picks for years have all been mediocre to lousy...going back even further we have Dat Nguyen in 99 (great pick) Steve Scifres and Kenny Wheaton in 97, perhaps the most horrendous 3rd rd trifecta ever in Clay Shiver, Stepfret Williams and Mike Ulafale in 96, 95 was the great Charlie Williams, 94 the amazing George Hegamin, 93 was Mike Middleton, 92 was Clayton Holmes and Virginia St OT James Brown...thats alot of bad players

for whatever reason, we just dont have much luck with 3rd rd picks...

David
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2035704 said:
Our third is the 93rd pick of the draft and still one of the top 100. Thta is still prime talent. heck if you scout well there is still talent in the fourth to be had. Saying a third is not a premium pick is absurd.

Moss went for a fourth, TO went for a 5th. If we give up a third, I for one will be pissed.

You sound like a Titans fan matter of fact. This is exaclty what they say. There is another side to that coin. If he gets in trouple again that means we lose a top 100 pick AND have nothing to show for it because hes BANNED.

see posts detailing 3rd rd pick misery here...like I said, its no big thing

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dbair1967;2035693 said:
how could giving up a late 3rd rd pick for a proven NFL CB get us in trouble?

really folks...I doubt its true, but even if it were...its not like he's giving up a premium pick in the draft

David

If true, how could giving up more than Tennessee was originally asking for be a good thing?
 

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dbair1967;2035711 said:
see posts detailing 3rd rd pick misery here...like I said, its no big thing

David

Just because we didnt draft well doesnt mean its not a valuable pick. You get youre choice of one of the top 100 players in the draft. THAT is a big thing.

Peterman is starting in the NFL. We got Dat in the third and a whole slew of others; cherry picking bad picks for us is worthless.

Hey I can name some first rounders too. Danny Noonan, Kavika Pittman, Shante Carver, David LaFluer, Ebenezer Ekuban, etc. I guess we might as well make it a first while were at it.
 

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iceberg;2035712 said:
and we've gotten shante carver in the 1st. carpenter too.

That's my point. You don't know where the gems will come from so why burn 'em. And I think using a third on Adam Jones is burning one. Especially when we are the ONLY bidder for his services. His value is as low as can be and we want to give him a third?

At least since the draft is only 2 round on the first day, we can say we gave a day 2 pick for him. :D
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2035724 said:
Just because we didnt draft well doesnt mean its not a valuable pick. You get youre choice of one of the top 100 players in the draft. THAT is a big thing.

Peterman is starting in the NFL. We got Dat in the third and a whole slew of others; cherry picking bad picks for us is worthless.

Hey I can name some first rounders too. Danny Noonan, Kavika Pittman, Shante Carver, David LaFluer, Ebenezer Ekuban, etc. I guess we might as well make it a first while were at it.

who said we should make it a first? you pointed to a successful 4th round pick to prove your point which really can't be proven.

i won't be happy at all if we give up a 3rd then possibly a 5th for pacman. that's just idiocy. but then again i don't believe some random rumor i read on line and i certainly don't wad up my g-string in anger at rumors and say how stupid people are for doing it, or would be.

i tend to wait and see so *i* don't look like the stupid one.
 

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Cajuncowboy;2035732 said:
That's my point. You don't know where the gems will come from so why burn 'em. And I think using a third on Adam Jones is burning one. Especially when we are the ONLY bidder for his services. His value is as low as can be and we want to give him a third?

At least since the draft is only 2 round on the first day, we can say we gave a day 2 pick for him. :D

no i don't disagree it's too high a price for the gamble. but like i just said, we ismply don't know what is true and what is not so no sense in getting all upset about a rumor as if it actually has merit.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2035724 said:
Just because we didnt draft well doesnt mean its not a valuable pick. You get youre choice of one of the top 100 players in the draft. THAT is a big thing.

Peterman is starting in the NFL. We got Dat in the third and a whole slew of others; cherry picking bad picks for us is worthless.

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who are these "slew of others" your speaking of? I went back to 1992...the only players of REAL significance we got in that time in the 3rd rd was Witten and Nguyen...know how many picks that totaled? SEVENTEEN

and Peterman got thrown into a starting job with a team with arguably the worst OL in football...good call...he looked bad here, got cut and got picked up by basically the only team that would want him...even if you COUNT Peterman on the good side, thats 3 of 17...

I dont know what it is about that round, but we've had awful luck there...like I said, I doubt we gave up a 3rd anyway, but if we did who cares...Jones is far better than any player we'd get there and he knows his arse is grass if he screws up...he'll behave for at least a yr or so

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Just cause we drafted lousy while Jerry was running the show doesn't mean our 3rd and 4th rounders are value picks. If Jerry gives up anything less then a 4th rounder for Pacman, I'll be royally pissed off. Maybe you would bet on Pacman remaining on the roster until the season opener, I wouldn't & there no way he makes it thru the season. Also Pacman hasn't played in a year so he'll be very rusty. Heck, with our luck he'll get hurt & we'd be stuck with him. And your saying that it's not a big day is why you'll never own an NFL team & accumulate lot of money either.

BTW: I don't believe a word of Rototimes' report. There's no way Jerry is giving the Titans a 3rd when they were asking for a 4th. That's just dumb & Jerry isn't dumb. I think the whole story a set up by Titans to put pressure on Jerry to get it dumb. Well the Titans were dumb for drafting Pacman but Jerry isn't dumb enough to be suckered into overpaying.
 

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i don't have a problem with it as long as Pacman stays out of trouble. if he keeps his nose clean and plays to his potential, it is still a steal.
 
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