RotoWorld Ranks GMs

[Dave_in-NC]

except for the 38 td's and 3500 yds.

Did that get the team any where? Championship? He was a POC that Parcells knew would cause nothing but problems.
Who was right? Our GM or HC?

 

[OhSnap]

Did that get the team any where? Championship? He was a POC that Parcells knew would cause nothing but problems.
Who was right? Our GM or HC?

Yea he was an insecure little boy but lets don't pretend coaches won't find a way to put up with players that help them win. They all do it.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Big difference in saying someone did a masterful job and pointing out a window of time when they done a good job. I have no problems seeing Jerry's failed philosophy on hiring coaches. I also don't cut up his years as an owner so I can puke out that same ol tired 1 playoff win in 17 years crap. I don't give a rats butt who the coaches were when they won the SB's because it doesn't change the fact that he hired them. Thats the problem with fans that think they see things how they "really" are, you have to cut up history into specific years and ignore that stretch from 03 to 09 to make it fit your opinion because it would just be too painful to say he should be ranked higher than 27th and anyone who ever says anything good about him is a homer drunk on kool aide. I've never said Jerry was a masterful or even good GM but I also never pretended he had nothing to do with the first 8 years he owned the team either because thats not how it "really" was.

Yea it all sounds good, except you have to cut up specific years or groups of years or coach hires. Its all part of the big picture. All the pieces. All the years, even the cut up specific years. All the hires. It all has to be evaluated to make a determination.

The fans that see things as they "really" are just look at things like wins, and wins in the post season. You know, the little insignificant things. There is no "cutting up" necessary to reach a conclusion on those results. No cutting up is necessary to even "fit an opinion." And you are correct about the 1 playoff win in 17 years being crap. Only its Jerry's crap. Not some fan made up crap dreamed up to bash Jerry. Its nobody's crap except Jerry's. Its the crap the fans are left with as Jerry your Adequate, or Average, or Sorta Good, or Mediocre, or Whatever kinda GM you see him as has given us over 17 years. And its because of Jerry's own crap that he was ranked as the 27th best GM in the NFL. Not a misperception. Not from people who cut up specific years. Not from bashers or haters. Nothing but a fair evaluation of 17 years of absolute futility even with hiring Bill Parcells.

 

[Dodger12]

Haha so we're grading on curves now? Oh, okay.

And what happens when the GMs that inherited losing teams get fired in a year or 2 because they couldn't turn it around? Do we re-visit this thread and re-rank Jerry where he should've been ranked all along?

So you rank Jerry middle of the pack for extended periods of mediocrity this franchise has never seen since it's inception simply because Jerry owns the team and won't fire himself? Jerry the GM should have been fired a long time ago. The fact that he owns the team and keeps his current position shouldn't factor a whole lot into the equation except there's enough evidence to see he's an utter failure. No owner would have kept a GM around after 3 straight 5 and 11 seasons and high draft picks like QC, Goodrich, Tony Dixon, Ekuban, Solomon Page, Willie Blade, Antonio Bryant, Derek Ross, Jason Williams, Robert Brewster, etc.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

So you rank Jerry middle of the pack for extended periods of mediocrity this franchise has never seen since it's inception simply because Jerry owns the team and won't fire himself? Jerry the GM should have been fired a long time ago. The fact that he owns the team and keeps his current position shouldn't factor a whole lot into the equation except there's enough evidence to see he's an utter failure. No owner would have kept a GM around after 3 straight 5 and 11 seasons and high draft picks like QC, Goodrich, Tony Dixon, Ekuban, Solomon Page, Willie Blade, Antonio Bryant, Derek Ross, Jason Williams, Robert Brewster, etc.

Yea, but for some the hiring of Bill Parcells evens it all out

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Yea he was an insecure little boy but lets don't pretend coaches won't find a way to put up with players that help them win. They all do it.

Point being he did more damage than good. We didn't win a thing with him. He did what he always did, his best to rip the team apart.
Great GMing there.

 

[OhSnap]

Yea it all sounds good, except you have to cut up specific years or groups of years or coach hires. Its all part of the big picture. All the pieces. All the years, even the cut up specific years. All the hires. It all has to be evaluated to make a determination.

The fans that see things as they "really" are just look at things like wins, and wins in the post season. You know, the little insignificant things. There is no "cutting up" necessary to reach a conclusion on those results. No cutting up is necessary to even "fit an opinion." And you are correct about the 1 playoff win in 17 years being crap. Only its Jerry's crap. Not some fan made up crap dreamed up to bash Jerry. Its nobody's crap except Jerry's. Its the crap the fans are left with as Jerry your Adequate, or Average, or Sorta Good, or Mediocre, or Whatever kinda GM you see him as has given us over 17 years. And its because of Jerry's own crap that he was ranked as the 27th best GM in the NFL. Not a misperception. Not from people who cut up specific years. Not from bashers or haters. Nothing but a fair evaluation of 17 years of absolute futility even with hiring Bill Parcells.

Yea it's been a pretty crappy 17 years but I still think 27th is too low. I don't really think thats the same as sayin Jerry is a good GM. LOL You ever ate at Jimmy's restaurant?

 

[OhSnap]

Point being he did more damage than good. We didn't win a thing with him. He did what he always did, his best to rip the team apart.
Great GMing there.

There isn't a GM thats ever won anything that didn't gamble on sketchy players.

 

[WPBCowboysFan]

Yea it's been a pretty crappy 17 years but I still think 27th is too low. I don't really think thats the same as sayin Jerry is a good GM. LOL You ever ate at Jimmy's restaurant?

No

 

[Aven8]

How many GM's have held the same position for 20 years?

Al Davis, Steinbrenner?

 

[SportsGuru80]

Absolutely fair as a matter of fact it might be a tad bit too high LOL!

 

[Nova]

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Ted and his shiny trophy say hi.

Jerry Reese and his 2 rings say hi right back.

If you thought my shot at Thompson was an attempt to justify Jerry Jones, you're sadly mistaken.

Fact is, there are more than 2 better GMs than Thompson.

 

[Dodger12]

Yea, but for some the hiring of Bill Parcells evens it all out

If Jerry had followed up BP with another quality HC to continue what was started during the BP years, I would have given him tons of credit because I think that team had a chance to do something special with the right HC/leader. Instead, it was obvious that Wade was brought in to loosen the reigns and make sure Jerry could play fantasy football with the franchise again.

 

[Dodger12]

How ironic that Jerry himself has admitted he would have fired himself long ago as the GM. Funny how he sees his shortcomings and was brutally honest in his assessment yet people can't bring themselves to admit something Jerry already has. Priceless.

 

[Nav22]

Number 2 shows you what a moron Jerry is period. Nothing but a troubled player, brought the team nothing.

Hahahahaahha "brought the team nothing." How can I disagree with such a sound argument?

I wish these casual fans would either get a clue or get off this board. Only good for cheap laughs.

 

[Nav22]

Eh,

If you start with a 10yd head start (Revenues, stadium, low tax state, team fame) and are still. 500, that really isnt average

If you say so. He actually took over a 3-13 team but don't let that stop your momentum.

 

[Nav22]

What's sad is the failure to see just because a team is average that people think the people running the franchise are at least average.
Just because a GM lucks in to enough players to make a team average doesn't mean he is an average GM.
Average sucks for this franchise period.

Hahahaha where was this franchise right before he bought the team??? That's right, in the gutter. And I'm sorry to inform you that the NFL has this thing called "parity" and a "salary cap" that keeps a level playing field for all 32 teams, so your whining about how "average sucks for this franchise" is useless. That doesn't make it any easier for America's Team.

"Lucked into" 8 Pro Bowlers in 2007 that he hand-picked himself. Lucked into Dez Bryant, Tyron Smith, Sean Lee and Travis Frederick in the last 4 years alone. Lucked into Jimmy Johnson and Bill Parcells. Lucked into 3 Super Bowl rings.

I wonder how one gets SO LUCKY over a 20-year span! Shouldn't his incompetence as a GM reflect his record? Naaaah, that's all luck. He SHOULD be .250 as a GM but Lady Luck has blessed him to reach .500. And the reason he's a billionaire and you're not is pure luck too!

The NYC media market has corrupted yet another casual fan who thinks the men on TV in suits know it all. Hilarious.

 

[TheDude]

Al Davis, Steinbrenner?

If you say so. He actually took over a 3-13 team but don't let that stop your momentum.

Most new "GMs" take over bad teams...hence why they are new GMs.

 

[OhSnap]

If you say so. He actually took over a 3-13 team but don't let that stop your momentum.

A 3-13 team that was bleeding out a a million $ a month.

 

[OhSnap]

How ironic that Jerry himself has admitted he would have fired himself long ago as the GM. Funny how he sees his shortcomings and was brutally honest in his assessment yet people can't bring themselves to admit something Jerry already has. Priceless.

I think people are getting offended at someone saying Jerry is ranked too low on a list. I haven't read where anyone said he was a good GM just that he aint worse than some of the names on that list.