Roy won't get ripped this season

[Rampage]

Ah, its the old pro bowl argument when someone can't find a real way to defend a player...he makes pro bowls because of homeristic fans (including myself) who vote him in and casual fans who only watch the highlight reels.

So being in the pro bowl makes him great, does not getting into the pro bowl mean that Newman is bad?

if that's the case, why didn't owens make the probowl?

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

we really need a minimum IQ to post rule here

David

I, for one, would miss you.

 

[TEK2000]

Wait till you see him this season people... just wait.

 

[Da Hammer]

i have no idea how roy will perform but its a good sign that he is in probably the best shape of his life and will have a coach that will put in a position to succeed. theres no excuse for this season to be his best season in his career

 

[BlackJackMurphy]

i have no idea how roy will perform but its a good sign that he is in probably the best shape of his life and will have a coach that will put in a position to succeed. theres no excuse for this season to be his best season in his career

It's sad that he was so out of shape after getting disgusting money - as I said , I'd be ecstatic if we traded him.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I said he was capable of doing better than he did but he did but he has given up some big plays back there, I agree lack of pass rush contributed to that at time but there also seemed to be a lot of mis-communication back there. Watching Roy when he 1st got to Dallas and his days at OU there are no doubt in my mind that Roy is at his very best when allowed to roam around the line of scrimmage.

I'm not really disagreeing w/ you here, just pointing out that we asked our safeties, esp. Roy, to play in a 2-deep zone far too much

 

[TEK2000]

It's sad that he was so out of shape after getting disgusting money - as I said , I'd be ecstatic if we traded him.

WHO ARE YOU GOING TO GET TO REPLACE HIM? Keith Davis?

Freaking stupid.

 

[BlackJackMurphy]

WHO ARE YOU GOING TO GET TO REPLACE HIM? Keith Davis?

Freaking stupid.

How bout one of these?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

How bout one of these?

http://img120.*************/img120/861/captainjackpx1.jpg

YAR! you blow

 

[tomson75]

How bout one of these?

Wow. That's incredibly clever.

I think Adamjt13 summed it up pretty well in another thread. In response to this question/statement from Mick's Mail:

"I know some will say that he is a Pro Bowl player year after year. I say he is a Pro Bowler because of his many hard hits."

Yeah, it couldn't possibly be because he led NFC safeties in interceptions or led all safeties in takeaways. The year before that, he was the first defensive back in at least five years to have at least three interceptions, 2.5 sacks and three forced fumbles for turnovers in the same season, not to mention his (game-winning) touchdown and his fumble recovery.

Nope, it can't be because of all of the big plays he makes. It has to be the hits.

 

[tomson75]

YAR! you blow

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I got jokes

I got jokes

I got jokes

 

[Trip]

Roy will continue to get ripped until the retards doing the ripping realize that all safeties get beat deep a fairly decent amount of time - and that the great ones consistently make plays to compensate for them. He'll get ripped until the mouth-breathers realize that he covers well, although not spectacular - and certainly doesn't get beat any more than the safeties people fawn over, like Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu.

But until the special ed. section of the football viewing community stops viewing Roy in a vacuum, and starts really looking into a comparative analysis in relation to other top safeties in the league, Roy will continue to get ripped for every misstep. And he will have quite a few this year, no doubt about it.

Yep. And along those lines Football Outsiders say he ranks 21st best at COVERAGE among safeties in the NFL. So he's top third in the league among safeties in his weakest area. And this includes free safeties which populate the top of the list. And what do they know, right? They only track every single pass play in the NFL, assign a defender and compensate for downs and distance.

 

[junk]

what most are forgetting is that Williams poor play even reached an area he has historically been strong...run support. He had multiple games were he just took horrible angles at the running backs who easily avoided him. His blitz attemps were embarrassing. It was as if he had a complete meltdown that affected all facets of his game. He didn't even closely resemble the player that he was his rookie season. Lets all just hope it was Parcells scheme and not something more serious like a complete break-down in confidence.

I think that is the most frustrating part for me. He's a guy I would have hoped would get better as his career wore on, yet he seems to be regressing.

Combine that with his questionable work ethic and complete inability to accept any blame and you have to wonder if he'll ever get back to that rookie year performance level.

But, in the meantime, I guess we can be amused when he compares himself to Jesus or when his unflinching supporters defend him by comparing him to other safeties and questioning the intelligence of anyone who dares to doubt him.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

But, in the meantime, I guess we can be amused when he compares himself to Jesus or when his unflinching supporters defend him by comparing him to other safeties and questioning the intelligence of anyone who dares to doubt him.

you guys leave us no recourse

 

[BigDFan5]

when his unflinching supporters defend him by comparing him to other safeties

You're right Junk we should compare him to running backs. Of course you compare him to other safeties.

and questioning the intelligence of anyone who dares to doubt him.

Most people that bash Roy dont need their intelligence questioned, their posts show everyone all they need to know

 

[WoodysGirl]

Guys knock off the intelligence insults...

Just a general warning to all in this thread who can't seem to discuss w/o going personal.

 

[dbair1967]

there are people posting in this forum multiple times daily, that make fans at ExtremeSkins seem downright genius

we have a a team loaded with good young players and a franchise loaded with great history, but we have one of the most ignorant fan bases anywhere in sports

only in here can you see fans actually HOPE one of our OWN guys fails so they can have some sick satisfaction...and it isnt just with RW

David

 

[dbair1967]

Guys knock off the intelligence insults...

Just a general warning to all in this thread who can't seem to discuss w/o going personal.

hey, if the shoe fits you know

if people are gonna make ignorant comments, they should expect to get flamed or called out...as long as there isnt 4 letter words or racist comments being thrown around, why raise a stink?

David

 

[Bob Sacamano]

hey, if the shoe fits you know

if people are gonna make ignorant comments, they should expect to get flamed or called out...as long as there isnt 4 letter words or racist comments being thrown around, why raise a stink?

David

personal attacks of any kind are not allowed

I know, I know, I'm guilty as charged, but WG is just enforcing the rules

as much as it pains me