Rumor Herman to Texas all but official

[BrAinPaiNt]

 

[jimmy40]

maybe he should go now before he loses more games.

 

[jterrell]

maybe he should go now before he loses more games.

prolly why he lost games.

he's obviously been in talks with UT since they were undefeated.
bet he's already working on who to recruit and what staff to bring.

 

[TheCoolFan]

Yeah, Tom Herman could lose the rest of the games on Houston's schedule AND Charlie Strong could win out and it won't matter...Texas' mind has been made up, they want him.

 

[jterrell]

Yeah, Tom Herman could lose the rest of the games on Houston's schedule AND Charlie Strong could win out and it won't matter...Texas' mind has been made up, they want him.

step 1 for UT is bolster recruiting. Herman will land top 10 classes every time and likely top 5.

he's a young. hip coach.
and he has a few monster commits he could bring from UH.

the one issue with Strong that I mentioned during the coach search was he hadn't ever recruited Texas heavily.

that experience is vital for success.
Strong had everything else imho but he needed ot soundly win recruiting not eek ahead of baylor/ou/okst.

 

[jimmy40]

step 1 for UT is bolster recruiting. Herman will land top 10 classes every time and likely top 5.

he's a young. hip coach.
and he has a few monster commits he could bring from UH.

the one issue with Strong that I mentioned during the coach search was he hadn't ever recruited Texas heavily.

that experience is vital for success.
Strong had everything else imho but he needed ot soundly win recruiting not eek ahead of baylor/ou/okst.

You're really selling Strong short on his recruiting, I believe he's had 2 top ten classes in a row coming off of losing seasons, that's some serious *** recruiting, too bad he sucks at actual coaching.

 

[jterrell]

You're really selling Strong short on his recruiting, I believe he's had 2 top ten classes in a row coming off of losing seasons, that's some serious *** recruiting, too bad he sucks at actual coaching.

Strong never hit top 40 at Louisville. Herman was 36 last year at an AAC school.

7th and 10th ranked classes aren't impressive for UT.
UT in 2010: 3rd
2011: 3rd
2012: 2nd

Herman will have them back in top 5 in recruiting.
He knows the state and was the primary Texas guy for Urban Meyer.

 

[jimmy40]

Strong never hit top 40 at Louisville. Herman was 36 last year at an AAC school.

7th and 10th ranked classes aren't impressive for UT.
UT in 2010: 3rd
2011: 3rd
2012: 2nd

Herman will have them back in top 5 in recruiting.
He knows the state and was the primary Texas guy for Urban Meyer.

I'm a Texas fan, I know how overated mack Brown's recruiting was, as soon as Texas showed interest in juniors their stock shot up, Texas offered early, they excepted and ended up just being meh players. Mack wanted the easy signing, he was fat and lazy and still crying about Colt getting hurt. Those classes you named were junk. What would Herman's class be ranked without the 5 star dtackle that was going their anyway? Also those never hit top 40 classes at Louisville had a hell of a lot of NFL draft picks.
Like i said before, if Herman goes to Texas I hope he's all you say and more but questioning Stong's recruiting is ridiculous.

 

[jterrell]

I'm a Texas fan, I know how overated mack Brown's recruiting was, as soon as Texas showed interest in juniors their stock shot up, Texas offered early, they excepted and ended up just being meh players. Mack wanted the easy signing, he was fat and lazy and still crying about Colt getting hurt. Those classes you named were junk. What would Herman's class be ranked without the 5 star dtackle that was going their anyway? Also those never hit top 40 classes at Louisville had a hell of a lot of NFL draft picks.
Like i said before, if Herman goes to Texas I hope he's all you say and more but questioning Stong's recruiting is ridiculous.

Agreed on Mack and recruiting tho the biggest issue was losing his top recruiters/assistants and never properly replacing them.
So they basically took guys from their 10th grade year performance at CAMPS. Ridiculous.

Strong is a good recruiter. But he is not a great recruiter (contrary to public opinion) and the distinction you seem to be missing is this is TEXAS, not Florida.
Strong has not recruited Texas prior to being named Coach. He did not have a tie to a great Texas recruiter.
Both Strong and Herman worked for Urban Meyer.
Meyer had Herman work Texas(and landed top players in this state), Strong work Florida.

HOU and LOU have been similarly impressive. HOU arguably moreso given the current climate of P5 vs the world.
And Herman did this at HOU with Texas recruits.

End of the day Texas recruiting ties is probably the primary need for UT. They have a huge built in advantage and the largest football budgets imaginable.
They should never finish outside the top 10 in recruiting.

And you are missing that even with a 7th place finish that class was pretty bunk. That was 28 total recruits which is a very high number and only reason it was top 10.
They have not recruited as well as TAMU with guys like Myles Garrett and others choosing the Aggies.
They've lost similar battles to OU.
Mack may have been fat and happy at the end but he didn't lose those recruiting battles.

Strong's 2017 class is ranked no where. He has like 7 guys signed....
His recruiting is insanely overrated.
He does a great job closing guys that final week but he's not doing enough the rest of the recruiting period.

Being UT gets to to the table with every major recruit in state. They should be dominant right now in recruiting. They aren't.

What Charlie Strong recruit at UT is going to be a high level NFL player? Much less where is this string of them he had at LOU?
Strong won big for 2 years at LOU both with a future NFL 1st round draft pick at QB.
Absent that what has he really done?
Was 14-12 his first two years at LOU and his UT record is even less impressive.

I fully expected Strong to really win at UT but he just never got the elite level classes or talent you'd expect.

The cratering Big 12 really can't afford UT to suck this bad.

 

[jterrell]

Jeremy Crabtree ‏@jeremycrabtree 2m2 minutes ago


#Pac12 coach on #Horns' recruiting status: “The only guys they can even sniff right now are die-hard Longhorn fans.”

 

[RS12]

Texas had a hand in this by not expanding the conference and allowing Houston to join.

 

[jimmy40]

Tom Herman seems like he sucks

 

[Hardline]

Texas just beat #8 Baylor.
Coach Strong bought himself more time.

 

[coogrfan]

Yeah, Tom Herman could lose the rest of the games on Houston's schedule AND Charlie Strong could win out and it won't matter...Texas' mind has been made up, they want him.

I don't think that's true at all. UT might well be reluctant to bring in another G5 flavor of the month. I wouldn't be surprised if the Horns opened up their checkbook to bring in a proven winner at the P5 level.

 

[Rockdoc]

If Texas gives up on Strong they are Stupid!!!
He can improve Texas recruiting by hiring coaches with connections and win.
After Strong showed up he had a significant number of player movement. many because they couldnt handle Strongs style.
he has recruited well, his team is young and getting better fast.
you watch the longhorns recently and you can see how hard they play.
messing things up in the middle of a rebuild is dumb
Herman isnt THAT good.
i really dont care about Texas but Strong is a winner. i hate impatience

 

[Hardline]

If Texas gives up on Strong they are Stupid!!!
He can improve Texas recruiting by hiring coaches with connections and win.
After Strong showed up he had a significant number of player movement. many because they couldnt handle Strongs style.
he has recruited well, his team is young and getting better fast.
you watch the longhorns recently and you can see how hard they play.
messing things up in the middle of a rebuild is dumb
Herman isnt THAT good.
i really dont care about Texas but Strong is a winner. i hate impatience

I totally agree with your post. I however would fire that defense coordinator immediately.

 

[reddyuta]

If Texas has to win then they need better D talent and better coordinators.

 

[TheCoolFan]

Congrats to Charlie Strong, looks like he is safe...Texas should win out against the terrible Big 12. I'm not sure where Tom Herman will go now

 

[coogrfan]

Congrats to Charlie Strong, looks like he is safe...Texas should win out against the terrible Big 12. I'm not sure where Tom Herman will go now

LSU? Notre Dame?

 

[Dallas_Cowboys50]

Congrats to Charlie Strong, looks like he is safe...Texas should win out against the terrible Big 12. I'm not sure where Tom Herman will go now

I doubt we beat WVU next Saturday.....our run game should be good as usual and its in Austin, but thats about where the good ends......