Rumor Herman to Texas all but official

[jimmy40]

Well I hope Herman is as good as jterrell says. I wanted so bad for Charlie to succeed but damn, horrible Coord. hires and not getting rid of them sooner absolutely sealed his fate. That and being a terrible in game coach.

 

[coogrfan]

#$%! the University of Texas.
#$%! the Big (less than) 12.
#$%! the entire Power 5.
and most especially, #$%! ESPN/Fox.

 

[Tabascocat]

I am both a Cougar and a Longhorn, talk about mixed emotions

 

[Vero_F250]

#$%! the University of Texas.
#$%! the Big (less than) 12.
#$%! the entire Power 5.
and most especially, #$%! ESPN/Fox.

I'm sorry for your loss.

 

[ragman]

IMO, 3 years is not long enough to build a successful college football program. If Herman has a losing football program after 3 years, what is UT going to do? Fire Herman too? Then, the cycle begins all over again.

SMH.

 

[jimmy40]

IMO, 3 years is not long enough to build a successful college football program. If Herman has a losing football program after 3 years, what is UT going to do? Fire Herman too? Then, the cycle begins all over again.

SMH.

couldn't agree more until you lose to Kansas in year 3 with no real improvement showing.

 

[jterrell]

IMO, 3 years is not long enough to build a successful college football program. If Herman has a losing football program after 3 years, what is UT going to do? Fire Herman too? Then, the cycle begins all over again.

SMH.

Love what CS represents but he had 3 years to get program going in right direction.
Great recruits only last 3 years anyway so you better be able to win in 3 years.
Had he been 7-5 n a bad conference he'd have stayed but this is the most dumpster fire season in Big 12 history and his team was terrible.
No real continuity on either side of the ball.

The Florida kids he brought in all pretty much busted out.
He didn't have the ties to Texas to recruit well enough to overcome mediocre game day coaching and poor coordinator choices.

In a lot of ways this is whats best for CS.
He will get another gig and probably in the state of Florida where he can recruit his tail off.

CS is a solid recruiter but he wasn't GOOD by UT standards.
That school should be a top 5 recruiting class every year.
Watch it rise remarkably over the next 2-3 weeks.
Come February all UT fans will be fully behind Herman.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Charlie Strong was/is a good Coach and was/is a Good recruiter.

Problem is he was not a Texas Guy.

I think that a good deal of fans, allumni and boosters want a very good coach but like most from most schools they want someone who also has some kind of ties to their school.

Many WVU fans always want coaches that have some kind of ties to WVU or the state of WV. Even now with what should be a 10-2 or 9-3 season where we were predicted to be 7th in the Big12...we should wind up being 3rd. It was a good year that could have been better.

But still...many fans do not like Dana Holgerson and would trade him in for a blast from the past like Rich Rod even though he has not done so well since leaving WVU.

As JT has said...I think Herman will do better with recruiting in the Texas areas compared to what Strong has done.

He is a young guy that is the hot name right now. He should be able to help their offense. It always has puzzled me how some of the top schools in College have trouble with QBs (texas, Lsu and Bama).

Strong was brought in to do three things IMO. Clean up the image of a team full of entitled and lazy players...in that area I think he has done a good job. Help the defense get much better...it that area he has failed and help the team get back to winning seasons...he has also failed in that area.

I will also be curious to see how the defense changes in Texas with the new hire. I am pretty sure the offense will do better. Will be curious how the defense does.

On a side note related to the Cougar fans.

I feel your pain. It can suck when you get a good HC that you like only to see them looking for bigger schools with bigger wallets or stars in their eyes.

We lost our basketball and football HCs to Michigan. Rich Rod was trying to leave multiple times prior to finally doing so...so I want nothing to do with his sorry butt. Here is a what if for the football world. At one time Alabama was really recruiting Rich Rod to become their next HC and WVU and some of their boosters came in to pay him a little more in the last few days to stay at WVU...This was when Alabama was still not doing well prior to Saban. The next Year Rich Rod goes to Michigan and instead of hiring Rich Rod back then...Alabama gets...Saban....history could be much different.

Now I hear word that Houston might...MIGHT be interested in WVU's HC. Would not shock me if he went because at times it seems like the new AD at WVU does not like him as much as Luck did and of course the fan base is fickle on him as well due to the reasons I mentioned earlier. Although at the same time I have heard he has an extension already wrapped up and ready to sign so who knows.

I just hope for Houson's sake that they make it to a P5 conference soon because if they do not, I don't know how long they can continue to pump out the money they do for their Football without getting good returns from a p5 contract and frankly their lack of fan support at games. They just do not seem to sell out games like a team of their stature should. Seen a few games this year on the tube and turned in and the stadium looked to be 3/4 full at max and this during a good year.

 

[trickblue]

IMO, 3 years is not long enough to build a successful college football program. If Herman has a losing football program after 3 years, what is UT going to do? Fire Herman too? Then, the cycle begins all over again.

SMH.

Don't think it was the three years, but more the WAY the past three years have gone. Once he lost to Kansas it was over. I really wanted Charlie to work here, but his teams were very sloppy and undisciplined. He leaves as the losingest coach in UT history...

 

[bounce]

Three years wouldn't be enough if there were any indication that they were trending in the right direction. When he came on he said that year 4 would be the year where they'd be competing for championships, but in year three you'd see the real progress. This year was a huge step back from where they should be. Herman should be a god-send for Buechele and Ehlinger.

 

[jimmy40]

Three years wouldn't be enough if there were any indication that they were trending in the right direction. When he came on he said that year 4 would be the year where they'd be competing for championships, but in year three you'd see the real progress. This year was a huge step back from where they should be. Herman should be a god-send for Buechele and Ehlinger.

Buechele is not a runner, at all, plenty of called QB runs in Herman's offense, we'll see how that goes.

 

[jterrell]

Buechele is not a runner, at all, plenty of called QB runs in Herman's offense, we'll see how that goes.

Herman will have no QB issues, that I assure you.
He is a machine recruiting QBs.
He brought Ohio State their current Texas QB, JT Barrett, and with Greg Ward at HOU pulled in former top overall QB prospect Kyle Allen as he escaped aggieland.
Buechele isn't very big or athletic so we will see if he lasts as the starter for TH who does prefer athletes.

 

[WoodysGirl]

nick wright ‏@getnickwright 15h15 hours ago


Some seem confused about my actual position on Tom Herman going to UT. So, here it is.
I have *no problem* with any coach who leaves one job for a better job . I do find it abominable that the players can't also, but whatever.
However, Tom Herman made calling out "dishonest" media a cottage industry in Houston. He called out journalists for accurate reports.
He also boycotted an entire radio station for speculating what jobs he might leave U of H for. He did this all while wanting to leave U of H
He then lied to his players, who put their faith in him, days before he left for "his dream job" at Texas.
That would be shameful enough, but given his history of acting like he had a monopoly on integrity, it was also incredibly hypocritical.
So, I find this whole week amusing, and that's before his wife decided to talk **** to me on Twitter.
Tom Herman is a pretty good coach. He's also thin skinned & a hypocrite. We'll see how he likes the scrutiny of a blue blood job. Good luck.


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This media guy and Coach Herman have a history...

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

I do find it unfair that a coach can up and leave a team in one year and start coaching another team the next year in most cases.
However players usually have to wait a year unless they go to a lower level. And sometimes Coaches will not allow players to transfer (while they themselves leave for a different job later...Rich Rod did this).

I also hate when there have been situations in the past where a School gets punished for violations while the coach gets to leave to other teams or the NFL with out getting in trouble. However that does not seem to happen as much as it used to...some get in trouble like Baylors former coach, Tressell from Ohio state and some others.


I also agree with the media guy in how the HCs act like the media is making all kinds of stuff up (talking about when they are looking at other offers from others schools) or get on to the media for trying to stir stuff up when they are actually telling the truth. Or how they will look the media in the eyes and flat out lie that they are not going anywhere only to leave the job for another one in a short time (Saban). Saban had the nerve to yell at and belittle the press over it while he was lying to their faces.

 

[Zordon]

nick wright ‏@getnickwright 15h15 hours ago


Some seem confused about my actual position on Tom Herman going to UT. So, here it is.
I have *no problem* with any coach who leaves one job for a better job . I do find it abominable that the players can't also, but whatever.
However, Tom Herman made calling out "dishonest" media a cottage industry in Houston. He called out journalists for accurate reports.
He also boycotted an entire radio station for speculating what jobs he might leave U of H for. He did this all while wanting to leave U of H
He then lied to his players, who put their faith in him, days before he left for "his dream job" at Texas.
That would be shameful enough, but given his history of acting like he had a monopoly on integrity, it was also incredibly hypocritical.
So, I find this whole week amusing, and that's before his wife decided to talk **** to me on Twitter.
Tom Herman is a pretty good coach. He's also thin skinned & a hypocrite. We'll see how he likes the scrutiny of a blue blood job. Good luck.


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This media guy and Coach Herman have a history...

Found it funny how Texas fans were giving her a pass for this behavior but going in on Donta's mom for voicing her opinion on Herman on Facebook...

 

[YosemiteSam]

I was never a Strong to Texas fan. I just didn't feel like he fit, but don't accuses me of saying I told you so as that was nothing but a gut feeling and held no information to confirm that feeling. It was just a lucky guess.

As for Tom Herman. I think he will have a far better shot at succeeding at Texas than Strong did. I think he is a better coach overall. That said, he is going to have to get a hold of some of his and his wife's bad traits. They will betray him at Texas....well, unless he brings back a constant winner, then it won't much matter as long as it's not illegal like that ****hole Baylor did.

 

[Zordon]

Herman will have no QB issues, that I assure you.
He is a machine recruiting QBs.
He brought Ohio State their current Texas QB, JT Barrett, and with Greg Ward at HOU pulled in former top overall QB prospect Kyle Allen as he escaped aggieland.
Buechele isn't very big or athletic so we will see if he lasts as the starter for TH who does prefer athletes.

He won't. Herman is going to want someone more athletic. Word is he'll be bringing Allen and the kid from John Tyler currently committed to UH.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Found it funny how Texas fans were giving her a pass for this behavior but going in on Donta's mom for voicing her opinion on Herman on Facebook...

Missed this. What did she say?

 

[Zordon]

Missed this. What did she say?

The meeting w/ Herman didn't go well and she didn't trust him.

Strong wasn't the answer but I got a feeling a lot of people are going to miss his ability to connect with families.

 

[WoodysGirl]

The meeting w/ Herman didn't go well and she didn't trust him.

Strong wasn't the answer but I got a feeling a lot of people are going to miss his ability to connect with families.

Aw ok. They went after her for that? Rude. smh

Herman was treated like a god here. I doubt that'll be an issue once everybody gets settled.

Doesn't mean she's not wrong in her opinion. Just saying, that won't be an issue.