RUMOR: Just heard on a local radio station

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skinsngibbs4life;1439079 said:
well, after all those years of mishaps, all it takes is a little nudge ;)

i dont blame you guys, so how much time left for the rebellion and you carry your GM out of their office and get a real one? or get rid of little Danny
 

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apickmans;1439073 said:
I think you meant to post this in the "biggest Commanders mistakes" thread. Yeah iam worried about making this trade. Sending me over the edge?? Where did i say that? I just want to stop hearing/reading about this on every sports outlet.

It was meant to be psoted here.

The point is, you should be used to this by now. It's the way the ridiculous team you're (most unfortunately) a fan of operates. Embrace the stupidity.

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Some of those trades/signings made some kind of sense at the time. This trade makes Zero sense unless Marcus Washington is on his deathbed or something. If this trade had to do with a player like Julius Peppers THEN it would make sense.
 

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apickmans;1439095 said:
Some of those trades/signings made some kind of sense at the time. This trade makes Zero chance unless Marcus Washington is on his deathbed or something. If this trade had to do with a player like Julius Peppers it would make sense.

It will make sense once you start drinking the kool-aid that made you believe the Champ-Lloyd-Duckett trades made sense - at the time.

But you're right, there's no scenario where this makes sense, regardless of Wshington's status. Your LBs are neutralized by the pathetic group in front of them. You'd be giving up a chance to instantly improve that front four tremendously for a non-pass rushing LB who excelled in a system with a fantastic front four.

It's ludicrous!

And exciting for us.

It is making for good reading at ES - the meltdown is in full swing, as the blind supporters declare that any dissent should just go be Cowboys fans, and the homers swoon about the phenomenal Dlinemen they will be finding at pick 31.

Oh, it's glorious - whether it goes down or not.
 

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I think Peppers might be one of the very, very select few that are worth two firsts, but I digress.

I, for one, welcome all the Briggs talk. While the will-they/won't-they does get tedious, it still offers a good level of discussion during a time where there just isn't that much to talk about, save 40 times and height/weight numbers on collegiate players.
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1438929 said:
I wouldnt trust everything WTEM says...

but then again, this wouldnt surprise me in the least if it turned out true. It seems like it is just on the bears to pull the trigger if this is true

WTEM is very accurate. Now, you may not like that fact that Doc and AL think your frtofc is a complete JOKE but the entire NFL knows that too. Don't dogg WTEM, they have some really knowledable people on that station especially when it comes to the Foreskins.. Brian Mitchell and Doc Walker give you the scoop from the inside..
 

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I think Briggs is a great player and I would not have been against giving up a #22 first round pick for him. But not a #6 pick in the first round. That is too much IMO.

But the Commanders are the dumbest franchise in the NFL so this does not come as a surprise to me one bit.
 

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Anyone know what the equivalent draft pick calculation for a move like this would be?

Just to give us a gauge on how ridiculous this trade is?

I sure hope it happens, then they'll have three highly-paid linebackers who are on the field together about 50% of the time?

And would that mean that last year's 2nd round draft pick was a mistake who'll now ride the pine?

Gets better all the time!

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stasheroo;1439181 said:
Anyone know what the equivalent draft pick calculation for a move like this would be?

Just to give us a gauge on how ridiculous this trade is?

I sure hope it happens, then they'll have three highly-paid linebackers who are on the field together about 50% of the time?

And would that mean that last year's 2nd round draft pick was a mistake who'll now ride the pine?

Gets better all the time!

:skins:

I heard 16th pick
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1438951 said:
all it says is that the skins are SET to pay Briggs... it doesnt say anything about actually making an offer

See the bolded part below.

DCBoysfan;1438937 said:
Skins make offer for Briggs
Mike Mulligan says Bears must weigh many factors before deciding whether to accept deal, move up to No. 6 in draft

March 28, 2007
BY MIKE MULLIGAN Staff Reporter
PHOENIX -- Lance Briggs is close to getting everything he wants. The only question is whether the Bears can afford to let him fulfill his dreams.

Multiple sources confirmed Tuesday that the Washington Commanders have made a formal trade offer to the Bears for the Pro Bowl linebacker, offering a swap of first-round picks that would put the Bears near the top of the first round at No. 6 overall for Briggs and the No. 31 selection.
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Sources say linebacker Lance Briggs will get $20 million in guaranteed money if the Bears agree to trade him to the Commanders.
(Tom Cruze/Sun-Times)

CAST YOUR VOTE
The Commanders want Lance Briggs. The offer: The sixth pick in the draft for Briggs and the 31st pick.
The Bears should do the trade.
They should turn it down.


Skins make offer for Briggs
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''That's what I have been told,'' said Drew Rosenhaus, Briggs' agent. ''The two teams have talked, and it's in their hands now.''

Sources said the Commanders are set to pay Briggs $20 million in guaranteed money as part of a multiyear deal that will average $7.5 million per season. It's a sweet deal for a guy who played out his rookie contract only to be hit with the franchise tag by the Bears, which means he would get $7.2 million for one year.
The tricky part now for Rosenhaus and Briggs is getting the Bears to go along with the plan. That isn't going to happen very quickly.
''We're going to take it under advisement, and if it is something we're going to pursue, we'll get back to them,'' Bears general manager Jerry Angelo said. ''We are not negotiating through the media.''
Team president Ted Phillips added: ''Our position has been made pretty clear on this.''
The Bears' position all along has been that it is perfectly within their rights to put the franchise tag on Briggs and that Briggs and Rosenhaus were warned it might happen when they turned down a six-year, $33 million offer last year. If the Bears give in to Briggs now, aren't they inviting every player who's unhappy with his contract -- and there are plenty -- to browbeat the organization into a trade? Would Angelo be forced to change his title from general manager of the Bears to marketing agent for Rosenhaus?
It comes down to one simple point: Can the Bears get back to the Super Bowl next season, or is it time for a full-fledged rebuilding? Unlike the trade of Rosenhaus client Thomas Jones, the Bears don't have a player waiting behind Briggs to step into the weak-side linebacker spot. The free-agent market doesn't offer a candidate after Cato June signed with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and there are no rookie linebackers worthy of a top-10 selection.
Angelo once described top-10 draft picks as a curse as much as a blessing. Players taken high in a draft cost a lot of guaranteed money. If the Bears weren't on the hook for $16 million with Cedric Benson, would they have traded Jones? Never mind that half the first-round picks end up as busts, but how would taking a player at No. 6 affect the Bears' salary cap?
The Bears have built their team with the concept of going to players early and signing them to contract extensions. They want to do that soon with defensive tackle Tommie Harris -- a Rosenhaus client -- wide receiver Bernard Berrian and one of their cornerbacks, Charles Tillman or Nathan Vasher. While they pick up $7.2 million in cap space if Briggs departs, they also will have to pay about double that to the No. 6 pick.
San Francisco 49ers tight end Vernon Davis got more than $14 million guaranteed in a five-year, $25 million deal as the No. 6 selection last year. Tennessee Titans cornerback Adam ''Pacman'' Jones got $13.68 million the year before in the same slot.
And while the jury is still out on Davis, there hasn't been a sure-fire success at No. 6 since 2001, when the New England Patriots took defensive tackle Richard Seymour. Jones (2005) is the poster boy for the NFL's new personal-conduct policy. Cleveland Browns tight end Kellen Winslow Jr. (2004) has been an injury bust on and off the field. Former New Orleans Saints defensive tackle Johnathan Sullivan (2003) will go down as one of the team's worst picks ever. Kansas City Chiefs defensive tackle Ryan Sims (2002) hasn't made an impact.
The Bears could take the No. 6 pick and trade down, but the Commanders have been trying to do the same thing and can't find a suitor. You don't move up that far in a draft unless you are hunting for a particular player. If the Bears were in love with Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn, for instance, it would be a good move. In fact, they ought to consider that move because Quinn is the only player among the holy position triumvirate of quarterback, left tackle and cornerback who's worthy of selection in that slot.
Is the swap of first-round picks enough for Briggs? According to the point system teams use in their draft war rooms, the sixth pick is worth 1,600 points and the 31st is worth 600. The 1,000-point difference is equivalent to the 16th selection. mmulligan@suntimes.com
 

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Pottsville Maroons;1439214 said:
See the bolded part below.

Yes, I understand what it says. It says we made a "TRADE OFFER", something that has been mentioned countless times in the last two days.

This thread is about an actual contract offer being made.
 

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Mansta54;1439120 said:
WTEM is very accurate. Now, you may not like that fact that Doc and AL think your frtofc is a complete JOKE but the entire NFL knows that too. Don't dogg WTEM, they have some really knowledable people on that station especially when it comes to the Foreskins.. Brian Mitchell and Doc Walker give you the scoop from the inside..

The whole washington media thinks our front office is a joke, so what are you trying to get at?

Theisman is also knowledgable when it comes to football, does that make him a good reporter?

I have seen you bash the D.C. media on several occasions ( including WTEM), and now you think it is credible? You cant pick and choose when you feel like just to make your stance sound better.
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1439236 said:
The whole washington media thinks our front office is a joke, so what are you trying to get at?

Theisman is also knowledgable when it comes to football, does that make him a good reporter?

I have seen you bash the D.C. media on several occasions ( including WTEM), and now you think it is credible? You cant pick and choose when you feel like just to make your stance sound better.

huh :confused:
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1439236 said:
The whole washington media thinks our front office is a joke, so what are you trying to get at?
I hate to tell you man, but it isn't just the Washington media, and I'm not saying that to be a wise guy.
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1439236 said:
The whole washington media thinks our front office is a joke, so what are you trying to get at?

Theisman is also knowledgable when it comes to football, does that make him a good reporter?

I have seen you bash the D.C. media on several occasions ( including WTEM), and now you think it is credible? You cant pick and choose when you feel like just to make your stance sound better.

Neither can you.

Are you saying that the media is wrong and that your front office has done a good job?

:confused:
 

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Hostile;1439240 said:
I hate to tell you man, but it isn't just the Washington media, and I'm not saying that to be a wise guy.

add player agents, they use Washington to drive up the price on their client
 

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Bob Sacamano;1439238 said:

He's a former NFL starting QB, which means he has 10x more football knowledge then you. Just because he is bad at expressing his thoughts doesnt mean he doesnt know what he is talking about
 

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Hostile;1439240 said:
I hate to tell you man, but it isn't just the Washington media, and I'm not saying that to be a wise guy.

But that wasn't the point. He acted like I don't like WTEM just because they tell it how it is, and because they don't sugarcoat everything that happens within our organzization. So I mentioned that all D.C. media tells it like that. Does that really mean that I hate all D.C. media?
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1439250 said:
He's a former NFL starting QB, which means he has 10x more football knowledge then you. Just because he is bad at expressing his thoughts doesnt mean he doesnt know what he is talking about

he may know the intricacies of playing in the NFL, but talking about personnel and such, he's a goof

Theisman gets bashed by his co-hosts when he speaks for crying out loud, but hey, if you gain valuable information from listening to Joe, then more power to you, I don't know anyone else who finds Joe knowledgeable though
 
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