RUMOR: O-Line Coach from 90's Super bowl Teams to replace Sparano

[Hostile]

Conveniently forgot Alvin Harper, huh?

I don't know how convenient it was, but yes. Doesn't change the fact that others from the past came back and contributed in a big ways. Coaching is even different.

 

[AbeBeta]

I don't know how convenient it was, but yes. Doesn't change the fact that others from the past came back and contributed in a big ways. Coaching is even different.

Sure, some do contribute, some don't. Doesn't mean that everyone who has been gone should come back.

IMO a young guy with fire in his belly is a better choice than someone with one foot in Boca.

 

[Rack]

Ronnie Brown played 7 games before he was hurt. How many did Miami win?

Chambers was there for 6 games. How many did Miami win?

That's a pretty low bar for "got a lot out of" isn't it?

Yes, cuz Ronnie Brown should have been able to overcome the complete incompetency of the rest of the team.

And now all of the sudden Chris Chambers is suppose to be great?



You want some young coach to groom? Fine. Let him learn from one of the best in the business, Hudson Houck.

 

[Rack]

Sure, some do contribute, some don't. Doesn't mean that everyone who has been gone should come back.

IMO a young guy with fire in his belly is a better choice than someone with one foot in Boca.

I'm sure that moron that Coslett made an OL coach - you know, the one that replaced HH? - had plenty of fire in his belly.


Coaching isn't just about "Fire in your belly". I'd much rather have a guy that knows what the hell he's doing in there then some guy full of gas, err, fire.


Let some firebelly learn from HH so that at least he knows a thing or two about coaching OL before he releases that "Fire".

 

[Hostile]

Sure, some do contribute, some don't. Doesn't mean that everyone who has been gone should come back.

IMO a young guy with fire in his belly is a better choice than someone with one foot in Boca.

I don't know where I said everyone should come back. I'm one of the guys who scorns the idea every time bring back Jimmy chants go up. There's more sentiment for that than all other coaches and players combined.

Hudson Houck is one of the top 5 OL Coaches in the NFL. IMO he is a better OL Coach than Sparano. If it will benefit the team, and I think it would, then I have no issue with it. I've tossed out the idea of hiring Marco Rivera as an Assistant. Let him learn from Houck and combine it with what he knows. That's your young guy with fire in his belly right there. But there's absolutely nothing wrong with improving a position on the team or on the coaching staff.

I'd be just as happy with Mike Solari as the OL Coach, but there's no way in the world that I would say bringing Houck in is a step backwards. Sometimes these old dogs really know where the flaws are and they fix them. For evidence I ask you to look at Dick Vermeil's original coaching staff in St. Louis and how that team came from nowhere to be serious contenders for a decent run of time. Several of them were way over 60. They had no fire in their bellies?

Come on.

 

[AbeBeta]

I don't know where I said everyone should come back. I'm one of the guys who scorns the idea every time bring back Jimmy chants go up. There's more sentiment for that than all other coaches and players combined.

Hudson Houck is one of the top 5 OL Coaches in the NFL. IMO he is a better OL Coach than Sparano. If it will benefit the team, and I think it would, then I have no issue with it. I've tossed out the idea of hiring Marco Rivera as an Assistant. Let him learn from Houck and combine it with what he knows. That's your young guy with fire in his belly right there. But there's absolutely nothing wrong with improving a position on the team or on the coaching staff.

I'd be just as happy with Mike Solari as the OL Coach, but there's no way in the world that I would say bringing Houck in is a step backwards. Sometimes these old dogs really know where the flaws are and they fix them. For evidence I ask you to look at Dick Vermeil's original coaching staff in St. Louis and how that team came from nowhere to be serious contenders for a decent run of time. Several of them were way over 60. They had no fire in their bellies?

Come on.

A quote like "you can only play so much golf" does not suggest fire in the belly.

 

[AbeBeta]

I'm sure that moron that Coslett made an OL coach - you know, the one that replaced HH? - had plenty of fire in his belly.


Coaching isn't just about "Fire in your belly". I'd much rather have a guy that knows what the hell he's doing in there then some guy full of gas, err, fire.


Let some firebelly learn from HH so that at least he knows a thing or two about coaching OL before he releases that "Fire".

Funny you bring up Coslett because he was very much a similar type of hire -- a reputation guy who was at some point of his career regarded as an excellent offensive mind. Came to Dallas and clearly was phoning it in.

 

[AbeBeta]

Yes, cuz Ronnie Brown should have been able to overcome the complete incompetency of the rest of the team.

And now all of the sudden Chris Chambers is suppose to be great?



You want some young coach to groom? Fine. Let him learn from one of the best in the business, Hudson Houck.

oh I get it.

when the team play well it is all about "5th in the league in sacks" and 5.1 yards per carry averages and how much the OL coach has to do with such great play.

when the team sucks donkey, it is all about how it is not the OL coaches' fault.

 

[sago1]

So long as HH has "fire in the belly" I'm all for Jerry hiring him to replace Sparano. I also like the idea of hiring Riveria (if he's interested) as an assistant to HH. Riveria still has contacts with various Cowboy players even tho he no longer plays for us. In fact he was on the trip to Mexico along with Romo, Carpenter & Witten. Wouldn't be surprised if he might be interested in coming on board in some kind of capacity relating to the OL with the Cowboys.

 

[Mavs Man]

I've heard that Tom Brady is an expert at putting "fires in bellies."

But now that I think about it, maybe that was something else...

 

[Chief]

We never should have brought back Herschel Walker. Big mistake bringing back Tony Liscio. Really big mistake bringing back Ed Jones.

Never live in the past.

Nice.

Especially the Tony Liscio reference.

 

[Hostile]

A quote like "you can only play so much golf" does not suggest fire in the belly.

Sorry, it does to me. When I retire that's what I will do with my time. Right now, I'm not ready to do that. Why? Because I still have the fire to get out there and see construction projects go up.

 

[Hostile]

Nice.

Especially the Tony Liscio reference.

Thanks but I "conveniently" forgot about Alvin Harper.

 

[03EBZ06]

I don't care how old/young he is as long as he can make the team better.

 

[Hostile]

I don't care how old/young he is as long as he can make the team better.

That's what I'm saying.

 

[Rack]

I don't care how old/young he is as long as he can make the team better.

What a freakin' concept.


Oh but it's not good enough if the OL coach doesn't have "Fire in his belly".

 

[AbeBeta]

Sorry, it does to me. When I retire that's what I will do with my time. Right now, I'm not ready to do that. Why? Because I still have the fire to get out there and see construction projects go up.

HH couldn't even muster a cliche like "I've still got a lot of coaching left in me" or "I want to die on the sidelines" or "I still have a passion for working with 340 pound men"- instead it is the "retirement is boring so I guess I'll keep coaching angle."

ya see how one is a direct statement of wanting to keep doing something and the other is one where you have to stretch to attribute "fire?"

 

[Rack]

HH couldn't even muster a cliche like "I've still got a lot of coaching left in me" or "I want to die on the sidelines" or "I still have a passion for working with 340 pound men"- instead it is the "retirement is boring so I guess I'll keep coaching angle."

ya see how one is a direct statement of wanting to keep doing something and the other is one where you have to stretch to attribute "fire?"

So now he's not good enough cuz he doesn't use the cliches you prefer.

 

[AbeBeta]

So now he's not good enough cuz he doesn't use the cliches you prefer.

Never said he wasn't good enough -- I said that he doesn't sound to me like he's got much left.

And I said that we might be more interested in his reputation than his performance.

 

[Hostile]

HH couldn't even muster a cliche like "I've still got a lot of coaching left in me" or "I want to die on the sidelines" or "I still have a passion for working with 340 pound men"- instead it is the "retirement is boring so I guess I'll keep coaching angle."

ya see how one is a direct statement of wanting to keep doing something and the other is one where you have to stretch to attribute "fire?"

What?

So in Lonesome Dove when Gus said "I'm not ready to take up the rocking chair" that was a bad way of saying he still has living left to do before he does the things that retired folks do?

I've made up my mind, from now on when people ask me about my age I'm going to say the same thing Hudson Houck did. A perfectly innocent statement getting twisted that far out of whack has got to be worth saying.

Pick a cliche', any cliche', we've got them all.