Rumor: Philly signed Adarius Bowman

[hendog]

Watching that video, I never saw a DB catch him. Either they played some slow teams or he plays much faster than he times.

In that highlite Kansas, Ala, and Houston all 3 teams have some pretty legit speed.

 

[ctrous25]

He's not nearly as fast as TO

he could still get faster remember TO ran a 4.64 at the combines in 1996 I doubt TO runs that now im thinking 4.4 now he wont be as fast as TO but I think this guy will ultimately make the roster

 

[dallasfaniac]

Positives: Has a tall, muscular frame with long arms, large hands, well-developed upper-body musculature, especially in his chest and arms, and tapered thighs and calves...Smooth and fluid route runner with the loose hips and ability to sink his pads to change direction in an instant...Shows excellent open-field acceleration and knows how to vary his speed to set up the defender...Has the low center of gravity to get in and out of his cuts sharply and displays the balance and timing to extend for the ball...Uses his body control and feet to tap dance along the sideline to make the soft catch...His flexibility and burst are evident in his quickness getting into his routes...Hard worker in the offseason and an intelligent athlete with the valid instincts to gobble up the cushion of defensive backs...Plays through pain and has proven he is capable of handling hard coaching...Has the hand punch and placement to lock on and steer second-level defenders when blocking for the ground game...Uses his power in attempts to defeat the press and get into his routes...Has an explosive initial burst getting upfield, as he is sudden closing on the cushion...Has quick-twitch moves with his hands to beat the defender and get a clean release...Has the breakaway speed to threaten the deep secondary and uses his hands well to steer the defender away from the action...Takes good angles to create his pass lanes and can pull away from any defender once he gets into the second level...Settles nicely to break off crisply, lowering his weight and sticking his foot into the ground to generate rapid acceleration getting into the open...Does a fine job settling into the zone's soft spots when working over the middle and moves well without the ball in his hands, looking for an unsuspecting defender to neutralize when blocking for the ground game...His sideline awareness allows him to make the tough catches along the boundaries...Has the speed and stride to gain separation on deep routes and makes natural adjustments to the ball...Has the large, soft hands to extend and pluck the ball on bubble screens and does a nice job of going for the ball with his hands outside the frame, showing good flexibility to snare low throws on shallow crossing routes...Has the rare size and playing strength to gain yardage and break arm tackles after the catch...Might drop a few balls in a crowd due to concentration issues or his lack of natural hands, but shows good courage working in a crowd...With his long stride and second gear, he is very effective at tracking the deep throw, especially when trying to make the over-the-shoulder grab...Demonstrates excellent ability to torque and rise to extend for that deep ball, doing a nice job of getting vertical to make the catch...Strong runner with the ball in his hands, but also is shifty enough to avoid...Has good plant-and-drive change-of-direction agility when eluding...Spins well with the ball, swinging away from the frame, as he slides with good hop in his step to avoid the defender while setting up another move...Will sometimes dance with the defender for just a short period when blocking in-line, but in the second level, he shows good explosion behind his initial block and the hand placement to mirror.



Negatives: Was dismissed from the University of North Carolina after he was caught in another student's dorm room with marijuana present and was first suspended indefinitely and later dismissed from the university...Struggled trying to locate the deep throws earlier in his career and it was discovered that he had 20/900 vision. He underwent lasik surgery in April 2007 to correct the problem, but still failed to get to 30 passes as a senior (had 108 passes targeted to him, catching 67, as he had 11 others deflected)...Has just adequate hands, tends to cradle the ball and will let it into his body too often, especially in tight areas...While he is a solid cut blocker in the open, working in-line, he is more of a pest-type blocker, as he doesn't use his weight-room strength to face up and dominate vs. smaller defenders, especially in pass protection...Has some concentration lapses on the field when working through traffic, causing him to sometimes be late working back to the ball.



Compares To: BRAYLON EDWARDS-Cleveland...Bowman has excellent size, strength and speed and is a physical receiver combating for the ball. He had some problems locating the ball in the past. That issue seems to have been resolved after he underwent vision-correction surgery prior to the 2007 season. He is an effective cut blocker and a savvy open-field runner and makes most of his production separating after the catch. He has an explosive release off the snap and is a very smooth route-runner who easily wins with double moves. With his improved vision and solid work ethic, most teams will quickly overlook his off-field incident that led to his dismissal from North Carolina earlier in his career.

 

[theogt]

Knee injury and ummm off the field issues

Yeah, but someone drafted Manningham, who (1) actually had drop problems in college, (2) also has a weed problem, (3) is rail thin, and (4) it is actually confirmed that he is functionally ********. To draft Manningham, but not this guy ... just doesn't make sense.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Yeah, but someone drafted Manningham, who (1) actually had drop problems in college, (2) also has a weed problem, (3) is rail thin, and (4) it is actually confirmed that he is functionally ********.

but he doesn't have a wrecked knee just a wrecked head :laugh2:

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

Couple observations about the YouTube video. Whoever said this kid isn't fast didn't see this video. I realize this is just a snapshot from his college days, but no one caught him from behind. He towers over CB and is a shifty runner.

Another observation comes from the QB who was throwing to him. There was a great piece this morning on Bobby Reid. Very good story. He was injured during one of the games early this past season and lost his job to another guy. Remember the ran Gundy had with the columnist from one of the Oklahoma papers? Reid said that destroyed him and he thought it was fake.

Anyway, the kids finished school, got his degree and chose not to play football again. But, a coach from Texas Southern called him and convinced him to use his final year of eligibility. Watch out for this guy. He's got all the skills you want in a QB. He'll be a steal in the draft next year.

 

[aikemirv]

Watching that video, I never saw a DB catch him. Either they played some slow teams or he plays much faster than he times.

That is what I was thinking. I mean usually CB are the fastest guys on the team and none of them caught him from behind or even came close.

 

[ajk23az]

Wasn't it Talib that took his knee out?

Yes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrSUoS3-KCQ&feature=related

You can see Bowman stay down after the hit.

 

[theogt]

Yes it was

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrSUoS3-KCQ&feature=related

A couple of the guys that he outran in this video have run 4.5s. So, at the very least, when healthy, you could say he's a 4.5 speed guy, probably could break the 4.4s if healthy and had proper training.

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

Positives: Has a tall, muscular frame with long arms, large hands, well-developed upper-body musculature, especially in his chest and arms, and tapered thighs and calves...Smooth and fluid route runner with the loose hips and ability to sink his pads to change direction in an instant...Shows excellent open-field acceleration and knows how to vary his speed to set up the defender...Has the low center of gravity to get in and out of his cuts sharply and displays the balance and timing to extend for the ball...Uses his body control and feet to tap dance along the sideline to make the soft catch...His flexibility and burst are evident in his quickness getting into his routes...Hard worker in the offseason and an intelligent athlete with the valid instincts to gobble up the cushion of defensive backs...Plays through pain and has proven he is capable of handling hard coaching...Has the hand punch and placement to lock on and steer second-level defenders when blocking for the ground game...Uses his power in attempts to defeat the press and get into his routes...Has an explosive initial burst getting upfield, as he is sudden closing on the cushion...Has quick-twitch moves with his hands to beat the defender and get a clean release...Has the breakaway speed to threaten the deep secondary and uses his hands well to steer the defender away from the action...Takes good angles to create his pass lanes and can pull away from any defender once he gets into the second level...Settles nicely to break off crisply, lowering his weight and sticking his foot into the ground to generate rapid acceleration getting into the open...Does a fine job settling into the zone's soft spots when working over the middle and moves well without the ball in his hands, looking for an unsuspecting defender to neutralize when blocking for the ground game...His sideline awareness allows him to make the tough catches along the boundaries...Has the speed and stride to gain separation on deep routes and makes natural adjustments to the ball...Has the large, soft hands to extend and pluck the ball on bubble screens and does a nice job of going for the ball with his hands outside the frame, showing good flexibility to snare low throws on shallow crossing routes...Has the rare size and playing strength to gain yardage and break arm tackles after the catch...Might drop a few balls in a crowd due to concentration issues or his lack of natural hands, but shows good courage working in a crowd...With his long stride and second gear, he is very effective at tracking the deep throw, especially when trying to make the over-the-shoulder grab...Demonstrates excellent ability to torque and rise to extend for that deep ball, doing a nice job of getting vertical to make the catch...Strong runner with the ball in his hands, but also is shifty enough to avoid...Has good plant-and-drive change-of-direction agility when eluding...Spins well with the ball, swinging away from the frame, as he slides with good hop in his step to avoid the defender while setting up another move...Will sometimes dance with the defender for just a short period when blocking in-line, but in the second level, he shows good explosion behind his initial block and the hand placement to mirror.



Negatives: Was dismissed from the University of North Carolina after he was caught in another student's dorm room with marijuana present and was first suspended indefinitely and later dismissed from the university...Struggled trying to locate the deep throws earlier in his career and it was discovered that he had 20/900 vision. He underwent lasik surgery in April 2007 to correct the problem, but still failed to get to 30 passes as a senior (had 108 passes targeted to him, catching 67, as he had 11 others deflected)...Has just adequate hands, tends to cradle the ball and will let it into his body too often, especially in tight areas...While he is a solid cut blocker in the open, working in-line, he is more of a pest-type blocker, as he doesn't use his weight-room strength to face up and dominate vs. smaller defenders, especially in pass protection...Has some concentration lapses on the field when working through traffic, causing him to sometimes be late working back to the ball.



Compares To: BRAYLON EDWARDS-Cleveland...Bowman has excellent size, strength and speed and is a physical receiver combating for the ball. He had some problems locating the ball in the past. That issue seems to have been resolved after he underwent vision-correction surgery prior to the 2007 season. He is an effective cut blocker and a savvy open-field runner and makes most of his production separating after the catch. He has an explosive release off the snap and is a very smooth route-runner who easily wins with double moves. With his improved vision and solid work ethic, most teams will quickly overlook his off-field incident that led to his dismissal from North Carolina earlier in his career.

Looks like the positives heavily outweigh the negatives.

 

[dallasfaniac]

Looks like the positives heavily outweigh the negatives.

You would think, but then again he went undrafted. Maybe teams know more about him than the scouting sites have reported.

 

[Oh_Canada]

If the kid ever gets healthy and focused....he does kind of remind you of a slightly slower T.O.....though I am in no way comparing him to T.O, his body, running style and fearlessness are kind of reminisicent and definately worth a flyer on.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/specials/draft/2008/video/

Type in Bowman if the link doesn't directly take you to his video.

 

[ctrous25]

Yeah, but someone drafted Manningham, who (1) actually had drop problems in college, (2) also has a weed problem, (3) is rail thin, and (4) it is actually confirmed that he is functionally ********. To draft Manningham, but not this guy ... just doesn't make sense.

you nailed it right there theo makes no sense at all I completely forgot about Bowman until I read this thread

 

[FCBarca]

A couple of things, I continue to say this whole weed thing is nonsense but it is what it is I guess.

I do have a problem with an increasingly easy path for knuckleheads to somehow find haven here in Big D...Seems like the rep of North Dallas Forty is starting to re-emerge...Not happy about that, at all.

But, I haven't read anything on Bowman that suggests this is anything but a weed thing, which I think is no big deal...As a receiver, he's clearly a stud and, frankly, could be a mammoth steal...Wonder if this has simply been a weed thing because how could he see such a dropoff like this just over weed?

 

[TheCount]

My girlfriend was looking him up and found this:

Oklahoma WR Adarius Bowman pleaded guilty late last week to marijuana possession in a McMinn General Sessions court.
At least he's honest. Bowman was given a delayed sentence of 12 months in jail. The 6'4/220-pound wideout looked like a first- or second-round pick coming out of OSU, but has had easily the worst offseason of any prospect.

Delayed sentence of 12 months in jail?

 

[Thick 'N Hearty]

But, I haven't read anything on Bowman that suggests this is anything but a weed thing, which I think is no big deal...

Yeah, just look at how Josh Howard is lighting it up in the NBA playoffs.

 

[theogt]

My girlfriend was looking him up and found this:

Delayed sentence of 12 months in jail?

Perhaps they mean deferred adjudication -- meaning, if he doesn't screw up for a period of time he won't have to go to jail.

 

[TheCount]

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2008/apr/14/nfl-prospect-bowman-pleads-guilty-marijuana-charge/

Apparently he paid a fine to have the jail time suspended... not sure what that means for him legally, if he gets caught again is that 12 month term reinstated?

Perhaps they mean deferred adjudication -- meaning, if he doesn't screw up for a period of time he won't have to go to jail.

You are probably right, he paid 250 bucks... I wonder what would happen to a guy too poor to afford $250, you end up in jail for a year? I guess that's a different conversation though.

 

[DasTex]

Struggled trying to locate the deep throws earlier in his career and it was discovered that he had 20/900 vision.

Good gosh, I'm surprised he could even find the huddle with that type of vision.

 

[AbeBeta]

A couple of the guys that he outran in this video have run 4.5s. So, at the very least, when healthy, you could say he's a 4.5 speed guy, probably could break the 4.4s if healthy and had proper training.

It's true. Between the smoker's lung and the extra pounds from the munchies you cut down on your speed considerably