Rush & Grier

[OmerV]

For all you doubters out there, go watch some Will Grier highlights. He's accurate, gets rid of the ball quick and makes good decisions. Sure he doesn't have a rocket arm, but neither did Joe Montana. I like the kid and wouldn't hesitate for him to be QB #2.

Problem is the only highlights are from college 41/2 years ago, not from the NFL. His only playing time at the NFL level was pretty bad.

Besides, players can look good in highlights anyway because, well, highlight films are designed to show the highlights. They can also look good at the college level while not working at the NFL level. It happens all the time.

I think there is ample reason for doubt given that Grier was released by Carolina after 2 years despite being a 3rd round pick, and hasn't moved beyond 3rd string status in Dallas

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Probably not, just like we'll never know if other backups would have won even if they benefitted from a great defense. Rush had to make some throws, had to not make some mistakes, had to get lucky, etc. The team was 4-1, and he was part of it. That counts for something.

I tend to think quarterbacks get too much credit or too much blame for wins and losses, but there is a degree of validity when you are the player who touches the ball more than any other player but the center. Bad backup quarterbacks lose games that the team should have won. Rush was a good game manager when that is what the team needed him to be. I think it's wrong to take away from that because we've seen some clear examples of QBs who weren't.

Some people refuse to give Cooper any credit whatsoever. They are usually hyper Dak Crusaders.

 

[rambo2]

Problem is the only highlights are from college 41/2 years ago, not from the NFL. His only playing time at the NFL level was pretty bad.

Besides, players can look good in highlights anyway because, well, highlight films are designed to show the highlights. They can also look good at the college level while not working at the NFL level. It happens all the time.

I think there is ample reason for doubt given that Grier was released by Carolina after 2 years despite being a 3rd round pick, and hasn't moved beyond 3rd string status in Dallas

Grier will play well in preseason this year. The games are going to be fun to watch.

 

[TheCritic]

Problem is the only highlights are from college 41/2 years ago, not from the NFL. His only playing time at the NFL level was pretty bad.

Besides, players can look good in highlights anyway because, well, highlight films are designed to show the highlights. They can also look good at the college level while not working at the NFL level. It happens all the time.

I think there is ample reason for doubt given that Grier was released by Carolina after 2 years despite being a 3rd round pick, and hasn't moved beyond 3rd string status in Dallas

There are some good highlights from his years in Carolina. Besides he will get opportunities this offseason to show what he can do Don't you want to give him a chance?

 

[gimmesix]

Some people refuse to give Cooper any credit whatsoever. They are usually hyper Dak Crusaders.

Well, I wouldn't want him to be the starter, while Prescott is in the upper half of starters in this league even in his worst rankings. For a backup, though, Cooper deserves some benefit of the doubt because the team has only lost one game with him out there. That's hard for any backup to accomplish, even if the team around him does the heavy lifting.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Well, I wouldn't want him to be the starter, while Prescott is in the upper half of starters in this league even in his worst rankings. For a backup, though, Cooper deserves some benefit of the doubt because the team has only lost one game with him out there. That's hard for any backup to accomplish, even if the team around him does the heavy lifting.

Yeah..uh-huh. Sure! But...

Coop had the presence of mind to stay in his lane and not destroy the season. He did have to make some plays too. While alleged fans mocked his arm. Those same ones who called for us to tank the season the moment Dak went down. Many of those same people are The Ultra Dak Defenders....who still to this day bash him.

 

[OmerV]

There are some good highlights from his years in Carolina. Besides he will get opportunities this offseason to show what he can do Don't you want to give him a chance?

In his 2 starts he only had 228 yards, no TDs and 4 INTs.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Two interesting articles on CowboysWire about Dallas's backup QB's. Seems like a fair analysis.

Thoughts?

Grier Article CowboysWire

Rush Article CowboysWire

they both suck. we need to upgrade.

 

[DandyDon52]

I'd cut both and see if could locate the worst backup in the NFL, CFL, or USFL. sheesh, I'd probably get the crackhead on the corner frozen in his bent-over mode.

competition kills some guys, so I don't want to make our nervous guy wonder about losing his job.

Perez in xfl , and Mcgough in usfl are both pretty good qb 's .
Dont know if they have been grabbed yet.
Denver grabbed dinucci pretty quick. I hope to see him get a chance to start.

 

[gimmesix]

Yeah..uh-huh. Sure! But...

Coop had the presence of mind to stay in his lane and not destroy the season. He did have to make some plays too. While alleged fans mocked his arm. Those same ones who called for us to tank the season the moment Dak went down. Many of those same people are The Ultra Dak Defenders....who still to this day bash him.

He did make some plays. He's a smart player who compensates some for this arm not being very strong with his football IQ. He processes the field, probably better than Dak and many other QBs with stronger arms, he just can't make all the throws. There are times when the windows are tight and you've got to squeeze the football in there, and that's not his strength. He's a good backup because of his mind for the game.

Those who were calling for him to remain the starter when Dak returned are equally as ridiculous as those who think Dak is above all criticism.

 

[EST_1986]

That's why we have the next 3 months .
But with this offense I'm leaning Grier

with the new QB rules, im sure both are here on Sundays

 

[blueblood70]

I think Grier is a better fit for a McCarthy WCO than Dak. Grier is more accurate and would excel in a time-based offense. Not saying there will be a QB controversy even though there should be.

Dude ,absolutely 100% ridiculous

and no you can call yourself a critic but you might want to look in the mirror and criticize your opinion because that's the most horrible opinion ever you're gonna look at the 3rd on the depth chart couldn't make the team last year quarterback and now all of a sudden he'll fit WCCO really last time I checked I've never thought of Aaron Rodgers as a running quarterback he moved into pocket well but he's not a running quarterback seriously he's not and by the way Prescott can fit any system well maybe not the Wildcat or excessive running with the West Coast offense dude Oh my God go list all the West Coast offense quarterbacks that you remember the truly great ones wasn't one of the innovators of the West Coast offense the one that Joe Montana ran he ran it really well but he was not a runner he ran the offense but he didn't run he threw the ball I'd say that Prescott is more mobile than Joe Montana. You use the quarterback who's considered the best on your team and Prescott is the best and that's who gets the run the offense dude the haters in here are unreal some of you should be benched just for saying things like that for at least three days every time it's insane it's it's not even on the realm of common sense...

 

[blueblood70]

I wouldn’t say it’s impossible, but it’s not likely. The only way we can win with Rush is if our defense plays outstanding and we have a running game. If we get a couple of scores behind with him we’re in trouble. During most of his starts we were only scoring one TD per week. The rest of our points came from Maher.

There are some truly ignorant comments being made all throughout this thread it's insane some of the things that are being said some people should be benched when they say something so horrible as to they rather have Russian news and they think that will grier can run this offense better than anyone else on our team I mean did they watch the West Coast offense when it was in its infancy in the 90s there were some non running quarterbacks that ran those offenses. I don't get it the hate is so deep it's insane

 

[tyke1doe]

Sounds like a new show on ESPN radio, especially after they dumped most of their announcers.

 

[blueblood70]

For all you doubters out there, go watch some Will Grier highlights. He's accurate, gets rid of the ball quick and makes good decisions. Sure he doesn't have a rocket arm, but neither did Joe Montana. I like the kid and wouldn't hesitate for him to be QB #2.

That's nice for you to say at the same time I see you just ridiculously knock Prescott will Greer could not beat out Cooper rush even with Cooper rush being exposed on the practice squad a bunch last year will grier didn't step up you do realize that McCarthy brought him here and he's been nothing but inactive pretty much every game you trying to tell me that somehow McCarthy hasn't seen what you saw this guy just being buried on the depth chart LMAO!!!! and somehow took cooper rushes job wh....was gonna do last year and he did not. seriously in my opinion he's just an....no smith and blossom 8 years from now.

 

[DandyDon52]

For all you doubters out there, go watch some Will Grier highlights. He's accurate, gets rid of the ball quick and makes good decisions. Sure he doesn't have a rocket arm, but neither did Joe Montana. I like the kid and wouldn't hesitate for him to be QB #2.

It isnt up to us , so doubters among us is irrelevant.
We get to see him in PS, but more than likely he will play with the scrubs late in games,so hard to evaluate that.

 

[DandyDon52]

I'd prefer Rush and Nooch, but Sean Payton nabbed him as a 4th (soon to be 3rd) QB.

I think payton plans on nooch being his future starter.
he has to roll with wilson now since they paid so much for him.

 

[rambo2]

they both suck. we need to upgrade.

How about we see how training camp goes.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Grier has a high bar to pass. You can hype Greer all one likes but Rush came through clutch at an important time. We don't make the playoffs without him,

Rush has a noodle arm sure but he owns the offense in every meaningful way outside of that from the decision making standpoint to the trust of his teammates.

I also see the usual suspects setting unreasonable standards. There are not even 20 starting quality QBs in the league and people act like we should have 2.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

How about we see how training camp goes.

yeah, been there. see it. they both suck