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Zordon

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I highly doubt it. He'll be our special teams ace and as a 7th round pick i'll take that. What he will be in the next few years? I can't say.

i agree. i think he will play that "mccray role" this year.
 

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i agree. i think he will play that "mccray role" this year.

Right. I get why people are talking this starter nonsense because of how he looks on tape. He looks great. But most guys do lol.....its unrealistic to even expect him to be anything more than a special teams/PS guy. But I like how he flies around the football and I think that can translate immediately into special teams.
 

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hey, i only follow college football casually and seldom pay attention to the games unless the longhorns are on. but i do watch reviews and after the game highlights. i'm one of the bad ones about using kipers list to see how overall players rank and then when we talk about them in here, so look up more about the given player and try to educate myself more on:

1. what system are we running
2. what type of players do we need for given system
3. are the players being talked about high on the list or a fit for our system? (this is a mixed bag of monkey poo to fling)

but it's how i roll. hitchens confused the bejeebers out of me but i went and looked it up and thought "ok, could be a good pick" but most players after the first few rounds, i simply don't know much about. that's why i loved the day by day threads where with my filters on i could get good info from people who talk objectively, not to say "hey i'm talking hush" type attitude.

sounds like we did very well with our 7th round comps and picked up some great UDFA's.

i won't get too mired in debates of how bad or how well we did cause i'm not a member of the IGS. i know it will take time for things to play out and i also won't reference the past to predict too much of the future. we've made some major changes in how we draft, let's let the results speak, not the past.

Think you quoted the wrong guy lol
 

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Right. I struggled to even make it out of high school but graduated in college in 3 years. I found college to be easier not because of the work but the speed catered more to the way I learned. I just would be careful on assuming a guy can't learn because of grades or a wonderlic score or whatever.

I made Cs throughout high school. I never took lessons home to study and got by just listening to the teachers in class.
In college it was a different animal. I only made one C in my undergraduate program and that was in Spanish. I never made less than a B in my Master's and Doctoral programs. Was I smart? Not real smart but I applied myself and studied hard. I was motivated much more than I was in high school.

I don't know anything about this kid, but I think he will be highly motivated to apply himself and to listen to his coaches. I think he will learn where it will be second nature with him and he won't have to think a whole lot.
At least I hope that happens because I want him to succeed, not only for the Cowboys' sake but for his sake as well.
 

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One of the worst players in the NFL. Maybe the worst. Just terrible.

That is simply just not true. To say that he is the worst player in the NFL or to call him trash just causes you to lose credibility. I understand that he didn't play particularly well, but to say he was trash or the worst player in the league is just ignorant. The dude came from a small school, Saginaw Valley State, and was forced in way over his head. He did show flashes despite making a huge leap from a small school to the biggest stage in the NFL. Have some perspective..
 

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That is simply just not true. To say that he is the worst player in the NFL or to call him trash just causes you to lose credibility. I understand that he didn't play particularly well, but to say he was trash or the worst player in the league is just ignorant. The dude came from a small school, Saginaw Valley State, and was forced in way over his head. He did show flashes despite making a huge leap from a small school to the biggest stage in the NFL. Have some perspective..

Heath was dreadful from an objective standpoint. Bad fundamentals, virtually no ball skills. He's lucky he's reasonably athletic and fast and can tackle, sort of, because otherwise he's got Arena League written all over him.
 

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Wow. Ya'll are really down on Heath. Keep it in perspective. An undrafted free agent from a small school that started in the NFL. (Ahead of McCray and Wilcox, and Hamilton.) If Heath was the worst player in the NFL, what does that make those he beat out for playing time? Okay, maybe ya'll know more about a player's ability than any of the coaches of this professional football team. You must be in the wrong profession, the Cowboys could use you as a coach.

Okay, about Dixon: If he weighs 212, he weighs exactly what Ray Lewis did coming out of college. I'd give him a look at WLB. I don't think he can start as a safety. If he makes the team, it will be in Danny McRay's place as a special teamer. Personally, I will wait and see, but call me a skeptic. (Or whatever else you choose to call me. I have thick skin. :) )
 

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Wow. Ya'll are really down on Heath. Keep it in perspective. An undrafted free agent from a small school that started in the NFL. (Ahead of McCray and Wilcox, and Hamilton.) If Heath was the worst player in the NFL, what does that make those he beat out for playing time? Okay, maybe ya'll know more about a player's ability than any of the coaches of this professional football team. You must be in the wrong profession, the Cowboys could use you as a coach.

Okay, about Dixon: If he weighs 212, he weighs exactly what Ray Lewis did coming out of college. I'd give him a look at WLB. I don't think he can start as a safety. If he makes the team, it will be in Danny McRay's place as a special teamer. Personally, I will wait and see, but call me a skeptic. (Or whatever else you choose to call me. I have thick skin. :) )

Awful as well, the bottom line is Heath isn't an nfl caliber starter, at best he is a backup on a bad team. Hopefully Dixon can make the squad, and Wilcox finally shows something.
 

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Wow. Ya'll are really down on Heath. Keep it in perspective. An undrafted free agent from a small school that started in the NFL. (Ahead of McCray and Wilcox, and Hamilton.) If Heath was the worst player in the NFL, what does that make those he beat out for playing time? Okay, maybe ya'll know more about a player's ability than any of the coaches of this professional football team. You must be in the wrong profession, the Cowboys could use you as a coach.

Okay, about Dixon: If he weighs 212, he weighs exactly what Ray Lewis did coming out of college. I'd give him a look at WLB. I don't think he can start as a safety. If he makes the team, it will be in Danny McRay's place as a special teamer. Personally, I will wait and see, but call me a skeptic. (Or whatever else you choose to call me. I have thick skin. :) )

I think the fact that he was on the field shows just how bad the guys were that was behind him and how much the position needs an upgrade. I have never been down on the guy , but it is what it is. He has no business starting for a NFL team. The upgrade was there for Dallas in the first round, but they seem to undervalue the position the last few years. As for Dixon, maybe he can knock Matt Johnson off the roster.
 

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Heath was dreadful from an objective standpoint. Bad fundamentals, virtually no ball skills. He's lucky he's reasonably athletic and fast and can tackle, sort of, because otherwise he's got Arena League written all over him.

No doubt, but why pile on the guy and call him trash when the guy overcame the odds to make it to the NFL. Actually started an NFL game and always gave 110 percent..I don't think anyone will stand up for his play but I think he deserves a little respect.
 

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I think the fact that he was on the field shows just how bad the guys were that was behind him and how much the position needs an upgrade. I have never been down on the guy , but it is what it is. He has no business starting for a NFL team. The upgrade was there for Dallas in the first round, but they seem to undervalue the position the last few years.

We always under value the position, we haven't had a good safety in years, and we haven't done a thing to change that.
 

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We always under value the position, we haven't had a good safety in years, and we haven't done a thing to change that.

And every year it is a problem. Both safety positions needs upgrading IMO. Church is on the slow side and the defense needs speed. The players with borderline acceptable speed for their position needs to be replaced.
 

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That is simply just not true. To say that he is the worst player in the NFL or to call him trash just causes you to lose credibility. I understand that he didn't play particularly well, but to say he was trash or the worst player in the league is just ignorant. The dude came from a small school, Saginaw Valley State, and was forced in way over his head. He did show flashes despite making a huge leap from a small school to the biggest stage in the NFL. Have some perspective..

Lulz. He showed no flashes at all. He was lost on pretty much every play. You saying he showed flashes loses all your credibility. Dude was grade A trash.

You can keep thinking that, though.
 

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Heath was better than Wilcox . He took his job . Wilcox was the worse player in nfl . Heath was 2nd worse .
 
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