Saints | Team to trade out of No. 2 slot; seeking defensive help?

[Redball Express]

According to the standard draft value chart, the #2 pick is worth 2600 points.

Dallas' entire draft class this year is only worth 1554 points.

http://www.thehuddlereport.com/NickelPackage/tradevaluechart.htm

That's why I added a thought about a #1 next year and players from our roster NO might consider.

A #1 next year will have lower value unless we really flat-line and it would become a top 3 pick for '07 and adding either players of value today and or more draft picks from this year to move up as high as #2 is probably required.

It's not a science but an art with lots of luck thrown in.

We haven't had much luck as a team in the last three years..so who knows.

We might be due.

Parcellswaterboy

 

[fortdick]

D'Brickshaw Ferguson without batting an eye!!!!!

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Not for a #2 overall. You can win a Superbowl with a serviceable tackle, but you have to have an excellent QB. A great tackle with a serviceable QB will struggle to get to the playoffs.

Bledsoe is the man right now, but in 2008, we may have to look elsewhere. Leiinart in the draft, or Brady Quinn in next year's. If you trade down to #2, which this thread is supposing, you grab a player to win you Superbowls. That ain't Vince Young or Jay Cutler.

Leiniart played in a pro offense at USC. His adaption to the Pro game will not be that great. Same with Brady Quinn. They have had great coaching and that gives them a definate edge over the others.

 

[Muhast]

I'd LOVE for us to trade up for the #1 pick next year and get Brady Quinn, but thats a break the bank deal since we are likely a playoff if not super bowl contender

 

[Clove]

Since they are so desperate for a defender, how about we give them Ellis & Davis straight up for their 2nd rounder. Since they are desperate, they get a proven 8 to 9 sack defender, and Davis who is a special teams guru, and a solid backup SS.

 

[the kid 05]

WOW. A S at #2 overall? Unfreakingbelievable.

i would take Roy Williams or Ed Reed with the first over all, and i dont see why its so "unfreakingbelievable" when we took newman at 5th, roy at 8th, where those "unfreakingbelievable" too?

 

[Justis]

AJ Hawk on this team would guarantee us a Super Bowl in 06.

 

[big dog cowboy]

i would take Roy Williams or Ed Reed with the first over all, and i dont see why its so "unfreakingbelievable" when we took newman at 5th, roy at 8th, where those "unfreakingbelievable" too?

It's all about the circumstances. It's because of the 2ndary we already have. To spend the #2 overall pick on a S is just flat out stupid. We have much bigger needs. It may make sense for a team desperate for a S, but not us.

 

[Clove]

AJ Hawk on this team would guarantee us a Super Bowl in 06.

I like AJ Hawk like the rest of us, but the price may not be right. Typically, I think that moving that far up is for QB's/RB's/ or Stud WR's, and really just QB.

But if Parcells can find a way to pull it off without jeapordizing other positions we need to fix, then I'm definitely all for a big trade up.

 

[Muhast]

The vikings are the most likely to trade into the #2 pick. Whats the point of us arguing when...

We can get what we need at #18.

they need a QB, and they have the 17th pick plus two second rounders this year to offer

we can't compete, and really shouldnt try.

If N.O wants defense that would give them the 17th pick overall AND THREE 2nd round choices

 

[Justis]

I like AJ Hawk like the rest of us, but the price may not be right. Typically, I think that moving that far up is for QB's/RB's/ or Stud WR's, and really just QB.

But if Parcells can find a way to pull it off without jeapordizing other positions we need to fix, then I'm definitely all for a big trade up.

I should remind you Lawrence Taylor was 2nd overall. People who reserve top draft picks for the sexy positions end up drafting Alex Smith. You always take the best player available. And to me that's either D'Brickashaw, or AJ Hawk. But AJ Hawk fills the bigger need.
But I'm not necessarily for trading up, I just think that if we did, I would scream like a school girl if we took Hawk.

 

[superpunk]

AJ Hawk on this team would guarantee us a Super Bowl in 06.

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[Clove]

I should remind you Lawrence Taylor was 2nd overall. People who reserve top draft picks for the sexy positions end up drafting Alex Smith. You always take the best player available. And to me that's either D'Brickashaw, or AJ Hawk. But AJ Hawk fills the bigger need.
But I'm not necessarily for trading up, I just think that if we did, I would scream like a school girl if we took Hawk.

I guess he's the next Lawrence Taylor...

 

[Rudy]

Matt Leinart.

How can people hate him? How many games did he lose in his college career starting games? Had Reggie Bush not run for 500+ all purpose yards against a pac10 defense/spec teams, Fresno State at that, the man would have won the Heisman twice and would be the no brainer first overall pick this year. He earned all his praise and doesn't deserve any of the doubt.

 

[Wolf2k5]

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HAHAHA the eyes of the ranger are apon u AJ!!!!

 

[Rumor]

Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson both won Super Bowls. If Leinart does that I'd say he's doing all right.

Like he said, GOOD NOT GREAT...And I actually agree with him....But yes those quarterbacks are good enough and had the team to win a superbowl...Not hall of fame material though...

 

[Rumor]

i would take Roy Williams or Ed Reed with the first over all, and i dont see why its so "unfreakingbelievable" when we took newman at 5th, roy at 8th, where those "unfreakingbelievable" too?

If it were to happen this year....yes...

 

[the_h0wey]

So WHO would you pick if you had the #2 pick in draft?

Huff or Hawk

 

[Chuck 54]

I understand why you guys want Hawk or Ferguson, but #2 is too high for either of them...you're talking millions of dollars to take a guy before he is slotted....sorry, but pick number 2 has to be a QB. Hawk and Ferguson are more like #4,5, and yes, that does make a huge huge difference, especially in the top 5.

No one will take Hawk at #2....no one.

 

[baj1dallas]

I understand why you guys want Hawk or Ferguson, but #2 is too high for either of them...you're talking millions of dollars to take a guy before he is slotted....sorry, but pick number 2 has to be a QB. Hawk and Ferguson are more like #4,5, and yes, that does make a huge huge difference, especially in the top 5.

No one will take Hawk at #2....no one.

that's bogus. If you can take a RB #1 overall, you can take the best LB to come out of college in 10 years #2.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

This will not affect the Cowboys on draft day!