Sam Hurd: Felix Jones 10 times better than Brian Westbrook

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Both sides of the argument are right and wrong on this one. Philly will be up to play Dallas no matter what is said by who. On the other hand, great coaches like Belichick and Parcells would have near cardiac arrests if one of their players said something like what Hurd did. There is good reason those guys keep their player's mouths shut to the media.

Heck, I remember hearing about Bill Belichick going off the deep end in 2007 because Meriweather (a rookie safety at the time) said that Wes Welker was the best slot reciever in the NFL. Belichick brought him up in front of the team, showed him the newspaper where he was quoted and yelled at him, "Who the **** are you? Who the **** is Brandon Meriweather to know who is the best slot reciever in the NFL?"

Belichick keeps all his players saying only how good the next opponent is and how hard it will be to try to overcome them.

Maybe coaches shouldn't go to that extreme... but there have been a lot of good coaches through the years that would be horrified at what Hurd said about a proven pro bowler on a Division rival's team.

Now Jimmy Johnson did do the "Three inch headlines" deal during playoffs... but it should be noted that it was the coach himself (and he had his reasons for doing so)... not any of his players. His players didn't make any remarks like that to the media and he likely wanted it that way.

I suppose you could argue either side of this subject... me myself? I just tend to side with Parcells and Belichick on this matter. Just shut up and let your play speak for itself.

And for the record, I think Felix is going to be better than Westy has been and that is saying a lot because Brian has been a good one.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2867188 said:
i'm here i saw the title and wanted to stay away from the thread. But i'd take Westbrook> Jones any day of the week.

Then you'd be a pretty crappy GM.

Westbrook has maybe 2 or 3 good years left.

Felix Jones has a whole career.

That being said....Felix isn't at Westbrook's level...yet.
 

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Bizwah;2867289 said:
Then you'd be a pretty crappy GM.

Westbrook has maybe 2 or 3 good years left.

Felix Jones has a whole career.

That being said....Felix isn't at Westbrook's level...yet.

I think that was his point.
 

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Maikeru-sama;2867300 said:
I think that was his point.

No it wasn't.

His point was to try to dog our team.

The point is...if you want a player for a short-term gain, then choose Westbrook. But if you have an eye on the future you would be foolish to take him over Jones.
 

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Bizwah;2867311 said:
No it wasn't.

His point was to try to get into everyone's head. He does that.

Based on the responses in this thread, the guy obviously has a bad history.

However, he stated that he would take Westbrook over Jones.

Hence, when you stated that Jones wasn't at Westbrook's level, you were kind of making his point.
 

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Bizwah;2867289 said:
Then you'd be a pretty crappy GM.

Westbrook has maybe 2 or 3 good years left.

Felix Jones has a whole career.

That being said....Felix isn't at Westbrook's level...yet.
I guess Hurd would have said Julius Jones was 10x better than Westbrook too.
 

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Maikeru-sama;2867315 said:
Based on the responses in this thread, the guy obviously has a bad history.

However, he stated that he would take Westbrook over Jones.

Hence, when you stated that Jones wasn't at Westbrook's level, you were kind of making his point.

No I wasn't.

I doubt many good GMs would take a guy on the downside of his career over a guy that obviously will be a better player in a year or two.

Short-term gain....long-term loss.
 

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jimmy40;2867324 said:
I guess Hurd would have said Julius Jones was 10x better than Westbrook too.
That's pretty doubtful. This guy jumps out at you like no other in practice. The cliche that he looks like a "man amongst boys" really fits. He runs and cuts at a different level.
 

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Where will McFadden rank when compared to his former Razorback teammate?
 

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Aikmaniac;2867366 said:
Where will McFadden rank when compared to his former Razorback teammate?

Not sure.

However, I think it may serve as proof that what franchise you play for has every bit to do with how talented you are.
 

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theogt;2867336 said:
That's pretty doubtful. This guy jumps out at you like no other in practice. The cliche that he looks like a "man amongst boys" really fits. He runs and cuts at a different level.
I haven't seen practice but I do see the same guys on this forum that had Julius in the HOF after 3 good games his rookie year doing the same with Felix after 30 carries. 30 freaking carries and he's 10x better than Westbrook? a guy every defense keys on when they play Philly? That's not bulletin board material it's just ********.
 

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AbeBeta;2866682 said:
of course, we shouldn't really be talking about the Eagles at all until we stop being their prison ********

we are 2-2 against them last 2 seasons thats not being someones *******

DaBoys4Life;2867188 said:
i'm here i saw the title and wanted to stay away from the thread. But i'd take Westbrook> Jones any day of the week.

and i would happily pick second on that day......
 

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Comparing Felix to Westbrook is premature to say the least, you gotta stay healthy in this league to matter.
 

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Maikeru-sama;2867369 said:
Not sure.

However, I think it may serve as proof that what franchise you play for has every bit to do with how talented you are.


Nope. ... not really. ..not atall actually.

RB Barry Sanders, WR Steve Largent and many many more reached the pennacle of their perspective careers without winning even a championship game but they are still among the elite players in the History of the League.
 

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Doomsday101;2866621 said:
Yes we got humiliated and did not even say anything negative ahead of time. Philly Defense will be up no matter what. It is our team’s job to go out and do their job in the end words do not win games nor do they lose games. Hurd said he thought Westbook was great but feels his own teammate is better hell I want our guys rallying around each other and could careless of what Westbrook feels.

He didn't say he was better, he said he was 10x better.

The type of guy Hurd is though, makes me believe this is more of a compliment to Felix than a knock on Westbrook. But it's still something you should probably keep to yourself.
 

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Aikmaniac;2867366 said:
Where will McFadden rank when compared to his former Razorback teammate?

This will be fun to track.

Right now fans and media (outside of this forum--so 95+% of the rest of fans) still expect Mcfadden to be better. With logjams in both backfields, the expectations for DMC are higher than they are for Felix. Howver, Barber's presence is a large part of that reasoning.

I would not at all be surprised if Felix has the better career.
 

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Gryphon;2866276 said:
Sam Hurd: Felix Jones 10 times better than Brian Westbrook
Typical dumb statement from Jerry's Kids. Just think TO mentored this guy. UGH.

I'll sign up for "equally as good & effective in the NFL as Westy" in a split second.

No wonder why Philthy hammered the boys closing their season & playoff hope. ROTFLMAO.
 

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fannypack;2867530 said:
He didn't say he was better, he said he was 10x better.

The type of guy Hurd is though, makes me believe this is more of a compliment to Felix than a knock on Westbrook. But it's still something you should probably keep to yourself.

He could have said 100 times better so what. I expect the best out of Philly any time we play them so Hurd making this statement or not was and is not going to change one thing. Oh Philly is going to be motivated to play the Cowboys now? Come on this is a hated rival all the talk means nothing. Player on the field are thinking about their assignments not what Hurd said back in training camp.
 
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