Sam Young...

ThreeSportStar80;4035366 said:
He needs to be at least a solid backup who can be a swing tackle.


That's exactly what he is right now. He's has good key reps at both tackle spots early on in camp. This is the end of the first week of camp so far...right now there is not one person on this team that is ready to play the season. Wait until preseason comes and make your evaluation afterwards.
 
ThreeSportStar80;4035366 said:
He needs to be at least a solid backup who can be a swing tackle.

If Free gets injured they will move Smith to LT so all he has to be is a decent Right Tackle and he is well on his way to that.
 
I've heard the same - that he was having a good camp. I heard just today on 105.3 the Fan here in Dallas. Also said Arkin was having a really good camp except for yesterday. Said Arkin was lit up twice by Josh Brent but Brent been lighting up a bunch of people. I forgot who they said Sam Young was going against but that he really took the guy to school.

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CATCH17;4035293 said:
Ive heard a lot of good about Sam Young.

We'll see for ourselves soon enough.
 
So what is this a week into camp now? Second year? All we want out of this guy is to be a serviceable swing tackle?
 
ThreeSportStar80;4035263 said:
No offense but I don't trust what Broaddus says...

Right! If he was such a good talent evaluator he'd be employed as a scout.

Just kidding, Bryan! Don't hate. :p:
 
dmq;4035392 said:
So what is this a week into camp now? Second year? All we want out of this guy is to be a serviceable swing tackle?

If the guy becomes nothing but a serviceable swing tackle then he was a good draft pick value. The poster seems to have hated the pick and now is looking for anything to justify hating the pick. Funny a 7th round pick is not an all star already while duh so far he looks like he is developing and getting better and the coaches like him.

That is the problem with to many fans if the guy is not an all pro they all suck :rolleyes:. You know what it takes soled players to win games not all stars at every position. You need guys that know there jobs execute the game plan to fill around your big name stars :banghead:. There is just no in between with most fans
 
Here is the thing about Sam Young, imo.

Can he kick inside to guard? That is where a starting role could be for him on this team. I'm not so sure.

Is he too tall to play inside? He's 6-8

Is he James Marten?

Marten was either a RT, or he had no position. That makes picking guys like that very risky.

If he is just a solid backup RT, the Cowboys got some value. However, a player like Young has more value if he can kick inside to guard. I don't think you want him playing at LT if you can avoid it. JMO
 
41gy#;4035399 said:
Here is the thing about Sam Young, imo.

Can he kick inside to guard? That is where a starting role could be for him on this team. I'm not so sure.

Is he too tall to play inside? He's 6-8

Is he James Marten?

Marten was either a RT, or he had no position. That makes picking guys like that very risky.

If he is just a solid backup RT, the Cowboys got some value. However, a player like Young has more value if he can kick inside to guard. I don't think you want him playing at LT if you can avoid it. JMO

So guys even at 6-8 can move inside it just depends. Kevin Gogan excelled after moving from tackle to guard. Can young no clue but it is possible for some guys
 
He's a late round draft pick who could easily be a depth guy/swing tackle.

That's a good thing. I am pro Sam Young, people are way too down on this kid. He had a good camp last year and can be serviceable.
 
ThreeSportStar80;4035291 said:
I didn't care for the pick back in 2010 and I haven't changed my mine now... He lacks the athleticism to be a real tackle.

Guys , chill , He was a RT prospect only and if we can get serviceable swing tackle thats all you can expect.

The news of him getting beat from this camp is very much when he was the LT and not RT.

Not every 4th rounder will become pro-bowl material.
 
He is having a good camp. Last year he was hurt I believe for most of the camp. He was good in college as well. I'm a Notre Dame fan I watch all their games never had no complaints, he did his job well. I'm also a Nebraska fan and I watch all their games.

Young is good, I just hope we do not lose him.

All the reports I have heard is how well he and the other young lineman are doing.
 
Isn't he playing on the left side now??? If he is only a right tackle but playing the left so Smith gets more reps I think it would be understandable that he is struggling. If not, well... He may still be serviceable as a backup with good coaching.
 
ThreeSportStar80;4035366 said:
He needs to be at least a solid backup who can be a swing tackle.

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we don't need a backup who plays swing. if Free goes out there is no way that Young jumps in at LT for more than a play or two
 
BHendri5;4035518 said:
He is having a good camp. Last year he was hurt I believe for most of the camp. He was good in college as well. I'm a Notre Dame fan I watch all their games never had no complaints, he did his job well. I'm also a Nebraska fan and I watch all their games.

Young is good, I just hope we do not lose him.

All the reports I have heard is how well he and the other young lineman are doing.

I am a Irish fan as well and he was never as good as the hype. Sure he started for four years; arguably the worst four years ND ever had not only on the O line. He never impressed my and I was stunned he was drafted at all. He is a huge body and that is about it. He does not have fast enough feet to be anything more than a backup. He is stubborn and does not quit which is about his total amount of plus.
 
nalam;4035433 said:
Guys , chill , He was a RT prospect only and if we can get serviceable swing tackle thats all you can expect.

The news of him getting beat from this camp is very much when he was the LT and not RT.

Not every 4th rounder will become pro-bowl material.

This is an important point.

Young has struggled mightily at LT, but he's a terrible fit there. He has taken a significant majority of his snaps there to give Tyron as many at RT as possible.

I'm not so sure he's as big a disappointment as everyone is saying when he lines up at the more natural RT. Seems like an interesting and potentially developing late-round prospect for our backup at RT.
 
According to Vela the last two days Sam Young and David Arkin have both struggled. What they have in common is that they both flopped to the right side. It looks to me they are just having some trouble adjusting to doing everything opposite of what they were doing.


-- It was a not so good day for Sam Young, who struggled for the second consecutive practice. Young worked exclusively as the backup RT, and was again erratic in pass protection. Jermey Parnell was Doug Free's backup at left tackle.

-- Rookie David Arkin also seems to have plateaued the last two days. He was moved to right guard, after spending all the first week at left guard. This suggests he may be groomed to push Montrae Holland at right guard, but Arkin has a long way to do. Power moves have given him trouble and the veteran lineman showed Arkin all sorts of rush tricks tonight.
 
Columbo was struggling last year ... it was quite obvious.

And yet the team didn't see fit to give Young playing time.

That's a red flag, IMO, as bad as Columbo was and given that the team wasn't in the mix for the playoffs.
 
Arkin just plain needs time to build up weight and strength. He seems otherwise to have a nasty disposition and a motor that does not quit. So I think he could be quite good given time to develope.
 
burmafrd;4035644 said:
I am a Irish fan as well and he was never as good as the hype. Sure he started for four years; arguably the worst four years ND ever had not only on the O line. He never impressed my and I was stunned he was drafted at all. He is a huge body and that is about it. He does not have fast enough feet to be anything more than a backup. He is stubborn and does not quit which is about his total amount of plus.

I disagree, he was pretty good, and you cannot blame those 4yrs on him. The Irish was down period, Hype is hype, some live up to it and some don't, but just because you do not live up to the hype does not mean that you are no good. You can still be good but not as you are hyped up to be. I say again he was a pretty good lineman for the Irish. We were weak at QB, WRs and RBs, but the defense was the worse, those 4yrs, our offense could put up points but the defense could not stop anyone at least 2 of those 4yrs.

Sam Young was good.
 
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