Sam Young...

[JPM]

Cut him.

Set fire to his locker too.

 

[Stautner]

I'M not very high on Young myself, but let's all at least try to be fair ......

Why would anyone expect anything from him? Seriously! He was a top recruit to a major-visibility program that did nothing there. He has very average at best physical numbers at his tests and was a late draft pick. If I was Jerrah, which I'm not, I would take a late flyer on an unknown kid from a back-water program that might have been missed.

The light has been on this kid for years and he has never produced. If it walks like a duck... you get the idea.

He wasn't a star at Notre Dame, but how can you say a guy who was a 4 year starter at a major university did nothing?

He struggled last year in camp as well...

And there have been reports that Tyron Smith has struggled this year. Struggling as a rookie in your first NFL training camp isn't really a big deal.

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we don't need a backup who plays swing. if Free goes out there is no way that Young jumps in at LT for more than a play or two

Maybe it's true that Young wouldn't do well on the left side, and maybe Young isn't the right guy, but why in the world wouldn't we want a backup that can be a swing tackle?

 

[PullMyFinger]

I didn't care for the pick back in 2010 and I haven't changed my mine now... He lacks the athleticism to be a real tackle.

So at Notre Dame he was a "fake" tackle?

 

[Doomsday101]

I always like hearing the good news about different guys in camp but over the years I have learned not to trust any of the views about camp good or bad. I'm more interested in seeing how they perform in games. Thankfully next Thursday we will get to see for ourselves how different guys are doing.

 

[PullMyFinger]

Here is the thing about Sam Young, imo.

Can he kick inside to guard? That is where a starting role could be for him on this team. I'm not so sure.

Is he too tall to play inside? He's 6-8

Is he James Marten?

Marten was either a RT, or he had no position. That makes picking guys like that very risky.

If he is just a solid backup RT, the Cowboys got some value. However, a player like Young has more value if he can kick inside to guard. I don't think you want him playing at LT if you can avoid it. JMO

Columbo was a pure RT

 

[zrinkill]

I didn't care for the pick back in 2010 and I haven't changed my mine now... He lacks the athleticism to be a real tackle.

Which is the real point of this whole thread.

You do not like him.

 

[Stautner]

I always like hearing the good news about different guys in camp but over the years I have learned not to trust any of the views about camp good or bad. I'm more interested in seeing how they perform in games. Thankfully next Thursday we will get to see for ourselves how different guys are doing.

Exactly. It always amuses me how some fans cling to every word or snippet of a comment anyone makes during camp. If someone says a guy made a nice play today, some will blow that up into him having a great camp and ready to be a great player this year. Same goes for any tiny comment to the negative - it gets blown into something much more than what was intended. Every media report or tidbit of a quote isn't a meaningful nugget of information giving us an insight into the future.

 

[speedkilz88]

Columbo was a pure RT

Colombo was actually drafted and started as the LT for the Bears until he broke his leg/dislocated the knee - whatever that injury entailed.

 

[PullMyFinger]

As much time as the players had off, I bet theres a ton of guys around the league struggling to get their football legs back, especially rooks and second year players

 

[jobberone]

Young is not athletic enough to play on the left. Let's give him a chance to backup RT and see how he does.

 

[YosemiteSam]

I always like hearing the good news about different guys in camp but over the years I have learned not to trust any of the views about camp good or bad. I'm more interested in seeing how they perform in games. Thankfully next Thursday we will get to see for ourselves how different guys are doing.

You can trust mine, I'm never wrong.

 

[Stautner]

Colombo was actually drafted and started as the LT for the Bears until he broke his leg/dislocated the knee - whatever that injury intailed.

That doesn't change what he was in Dallas. He missed the overwhelming majority of the 1st 4 years of his career with injuries. He was not the same player in Dallas that he was drafted to be with the Bears.

 

[Doomsday101]

Exactly. It always amuses me how some fans cling to every word or snippet of a comment anyone makes during camp. If someone says a guy made a nice play today, some will blow that up into him having a great camp and ready to be a great player this year. Same goes for any tiny comment to the negative - it gets blown into something much more than what was intended. Every media report or tidbit of a quote isn't a meaningful nugget of information giving us an insight into the future.

I love reading that stuff as well, but you can't take it to the bank and cash it. Only way to see how the team and players are progressing is in game action

 

[Doomsday101]

You can trust mine, I'm never wrong.

I heard that as well. However if not mistaken I heard that from you. :laugh2:

 

[speedkilz88]

That doesn't change what he was in Dallas. He missed the overwhelming majority of the 1st 4 years of his career with injuries. He was not the same player in Dallas that he was drafted to be with the Bears.

It's wrong to say he was a pure RT when it's only because of injuries that he had to become a RT. Especially when it's to compare to a rookie tackle.

 

[sago1]

Geez, what's wrong with some of you people. Young was a rookie last year & performed as well as expected for a later round pick; nobody expected him to do much.

Have no doubt he would be better this year--if and that is a big if--he and all the other rookies from last year would have spent their offseason in the weight conditioning program. That program did not happen because of the strike. Young is one of those, along with this year's first rounder (Smith) who adversely affected by the strike as were many young players from around the NFL. Unfortunatley we will have to wait until next offseason for Young to really develop. Why do some of you think I believe we should sign a vet OL player to protect Romo on his right side.

 

[Stautner]

I love reading that stuff as well, but you can't take it to the bank and cash it. Only way to see how the team and players are progressing is in game action

I like reading it to, but I take it with a grain of salt and realize it is only a tiny peice of the overall picture. I'm sure you do as well. If we hearing more and more positive (or negative) things about a guy every day of camp, then it's worth taking a little more note of, but even then it's still not the full picture.

It's wrong to say he was a pure RT when it's only because of injuries that he had to become a RT. Especially when it's to compare to a rookie tackle.

It would be wrong to say he was ALWAYS a pure RT, but it is not wrong to say he was a pure RT while in Dallas, and that's really what we are talking about. Even though injuries were a major reason he was just able to be a RT in Dallas, that doesn't change the fact that's how it was.

 

[speedkilz88]

I like reading it to, but I take it with a grain of salt and realize it is only a tiny peice of the overall picture. I'm sure you do as well. If we hearing more and more positive (or negative) things about a guy every day of camp, then it's worth taking a little more note of, but even then it's still not the full picture.



It would be wrong to say he was ALWAYS a pure RT, but it is not wrong to say he was a pure RT while in Dallas, and that's really what we are talking about. Even though injuries were a major reason he was just able to be a RT in Dallas, that doesn't change the fact that's how it was.

When someone says a guy is a pure RT, the always is implied. Usually they are using when talking about a draft eligible player.

 

[Stautner]

When someone says a guy is a pure RT, the always is implied. Usually they are using when talking about a draft eligible player.

I guess I didn't take it that way - I don't think the discussion was about Colombo's entire career. It struck me as a comment about what Colombo was with Dallas. The Colombo people know now and are referring to now is not the Colombo of 10 years ago. I don't think anyone is attempting to comment on that Colombo.

 

[burmafrd]

starting four years for a major university means nothing when by consensus those four years they had the worst O Line in the schools history.