Same Old Unrealistic Complaining

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Asklesko;2991481 said:
Glad to see we are able to win against the best in the league. Oh wait.

Basically the rationale seems to be that unless we're playing bottom feeders we shouldn't be surprised to lose.

And guess what? I don't doubt that the bottom feeding Chiefs can beat us next week. Never put anything beyond this terrible assortment of "Talent".
 

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Bob Sacamano;2991455 said:
true, but I don't see these guys thinking that each game has a ramification on their season

it just seems that they want to do just enough to scrape by to get a win, and then they have to fire themselves up all over again the next week...just to win that game

I don't see a sustaining, winning attitude with this group, or any group of Cowboys, in since forever
I think the big thing is trying to figure out what kinda team this is. If someone were to ask what is Cowboys football, I really wouldn't have an answer.
Bluestang;2991457 said:
So when is will it be time to say enough is enough things need to change?
That's a personal decision, isn't it? It's like people want everyone to agree that now is the team for things to change.
Changes I want is improvement on offense. After week 1, I wanted the defense to improve. They have. Yes, they could be better, but they've definitely improved.

On offense, I think they've lost their way after the Giants game.

SLATEmosphere;2991458 said:
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result.

The season is over. Your setting yourself up for disappointment if you think this team is going to change all of a sudden.
Being a fan of ANY team requires a certain amount of insanity. At the end of the year, there's only one team who can achieve glory. Therefore, there's only one team's fans that's going to be truly happy.
 

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Bluestang;2991457 said:
So when is will it be time to say enough is enough things need to change?
Yesterday.

You'll be hard pressed to find anyone who will state that they are 100% confident in how the team is playing--or for that matter, how they have played in past seasons. However, you will easily find many who honestly believe that their stating that "enough is enough" or that "things need to change" will magically alter and "correct" the "ills" of the team. There's a difference between seeing the whole picture and fighting a crusade which has been lost before it ever even began.
 

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I readily concede that Denver is a better team.

But the larger issue is this: Why are the Cowboys always so mediocre?
 

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WoodysGirl;2991494 said:
Being a fan of ANY team requires a certain amount of insanity. At the end of the year, there's only one team who can achieve glory. Therefore, there's only one team's fans that's going to be truly happy.

I would be truly happy with a playoff win.

I'm not a superbowl or bust type fan, but I expect the Cowboys to be contenders and at least reach the playoffs. That's not happening with this current team.
 

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windward;2991490 said:
Insanity is flipping a coin and it coming up tails and assuming it will always come up tails

Or, perhaps insanity is flipping a weighted coin and expecting the non-weighted outcome.:)
 

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I agree with a lot of what you are saying, and i'm sure not throwing in the towel yet either. Isn't dissecting and discussing and complaining and raving about this team kinda the point of a message board like this though? I assume we are all huge fans and we all invest a lot of time toward the Dallas Cowboys, so it stands to make sense that we continue to be unsatisfied until we get that ring back. Especially considering our history, all in all I guess we've been lucky football fans!
 

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windward;2991490 said:
Insanity is flipping a coin and it coming up tails and assuming it will always come up tails

Right.

The coin is the team.

Tails is the optimistic success of our team.

Assuming it will always come up tails is the blind homers.

Insanity.
 

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wayne motley;2991323 said:
It's Jerry's fault.
It's Wade's fault.
It's Garrett's fault.
It's Romo's fault.

Does anyone ever consider that the #1 defense in the NFL just proved to us that they are legitimately #1?
Does anyone ever consider that we're still a very good team, but like the NYG loss, we lost to a better team? and this one on the road at the end of the game?

Why do so many people think we're the greatest team around, but poorly coached or underachieving?

To me, this was a very hard fought defensive game, and the #1 defense in the NFL did just enough to beat the Dallas Cowboys and hold us off at the 1 yard line with our top receiver out of the game.

We're 2-2, and our two losses were to two undefeated teams, both losses coming at the end of the game.

I'm not happy with losing, and I'm not trying to look on the bright side, but unless you are simply deluded enough to think the Cowboys are the best team in the NFL, but the coach and/or owner-gm are holding them back, then this is just the way it goes some weeks.

Washington has an identical 2-2 record, but every team they've played had 0 wins when they played them. StL and TB are both still winless, while Detroit's only win was against the Skins. The Cowboys have two very tight losses against teams that are both 4-0.

I'm not throwing in the towel yet.

Same old JJ, Wade, Red, and Romo let down!! :bang2:
 

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ScipioCowboy;2991504 said:
I readily concede that Denver is a better team.

But the larger issue is this: Why are the Cowboys always so mediocre?
I don't think anyone can really answer that. On paper, you would think they could perform better than they have to date.

But results are what matters and what we're seeing is a team that's not quite good enough. Lot of time for them to turn it around, but do we see this as a contender. Can't say that I do.

SLATEmosphere;2991505 said:
I would be truly happy with a playoff win.

I'm not a superbowl or bust type fan, but I expect the Cowboys to be contenders and at least reach the playoffs. That's not happening with this current team.
Me, too..
 

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WoodysGirl;2991525 said:
I don't think anyone can really answer that. On paper, you would think they could perform better than they have to date.

But results are what matters and what we're seeing is a team that's not quite good enough. Lot of time for them to turn it around, but do we see this as a contender. Can't say that I do.


Me, too..


well a peek into the mind of this team always offers the same thing.

Bradie james said in the locker room tonight, "We dont know how to do it, and until we figure it out we will be up and down..."

that is not inspiring.

and laufenberg said tonight after talking to some people it has become apparent that teams have a strategy of just hanging in their with us till the 4th where they will wait for us to make mistakes.

that is about the sorriest thing you can say about a franchise. Its really bad.
 

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Wayne, my problem is we're a 2-2 team that has been highly mistake prone in every game. You might say we should hang our hat on hanging in there against two quality opponents, but to me that sounds like the mantra of a 7-9 type team. Unfortunately, that looks like what we are, so maybe that is the strategy we should employ -- especially come December. If we can expect to lose to better teams, we're going to lose a number of them late this season.

I'm not of the 'get rid of Jerry/Romo/Garrett/Wade' crowd, necessarily. It's early October and none of those guys are going anywhere right now. I'll save those dialogues for the offseason.

But we're a sloppy team and I just wonder how, if at all, that can be fixed. Even in our victories you see a team that isn't firing on all cylinders.
 
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WoodysGirl;2991427 said:
Guys just need to play better.

Coach Campo?

Didn't you forget something?

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theebs;2991534 said:
well a peek into the mind of this team always offers the same thing.

Bradie james said in the locker room tonight, "We dont know how to do it, and until we figure it out we will be up and down..."

that is not inspiring.

and laufenberg said tonight after talking to some people it has become apparent that teams have a strategy of just hanging in their with us till the 4th where they will wait for us to make mistakes.

that is about the sorriest thing you can say about a franchise. Its really bad.

http://i21.***BLOCKED***/albums/b285/iveyman21/john_stewart_facepalm.jpg

This team is a joke.
 

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SLATEmosphere;2991505 said:
I would be truly happy with a playoff win.

I'm not a superbowl or bust type fan, but I expect the Cowboys to be contenders and at least reach the playoffs. That's not happening with this current team.


I would consider this yr a success with a playoff win as well. At least that would get the monkey of this team's back for a little while.

The problem with this team is consistency, and Brooking was quoted earlier as saying that they needed to practice better. That just confirms that fatty needed to go last year but here we are because Jerry wanted "continuity".
 

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I'm starting to believe that this team is a team in transition,they don't know what they are.Are they a power running team or a pass happy team with a gunslinger for a quarterback.It seems to me that until this team discovers an identity they will be a mediocre team at best.

Craig
 

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SLATEmosphere;2991520 said:
Right.

The coin is the team.

Tails is the optimistic success of our team.

Assuming it will always come up tails is the blind homers.

Insanity.
umm... Slate?

After only four games, you are assuming that the coin will always come up heads.

What's your definition for yourself?
 

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RainMan;2991541 said:
Wayne, my problem is we're a 2-2 team that has been highly mistake prone in every game. You might say we should hang our hat on hanging in there against two quality opponents, but to me that sounds like the mantra of a 7-9 type team. Unfortunately, that looks like what we are, so maybe that is the strategy we should employ -- especially come December. If we can expect to lose to better teams, we're going to lose a number of them late this season.

I'm not of the 'get rid of Jerry/Romo/Garrett/Wade' crowd, necessarily. It's early October and none of those guys are going anywhere right now. I'll save those dialogues for the offseason.

But we're a sloppy team and I just wonder how, if at all, that can be fixed. Even in our victories you see a team that isn't firing on all cylinders.


Nope the headcoach is a clown and the season is basically over at this point. All the things you need to do to turn the season around starts with Discipline, practicing hard and doind the little things to be great. So far with the team's play from last year to this year is the same; Brooking all but calling out the headcoach on how this teams practices and it will be the offseasons before we can have any real hope
 

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WoodysGirl;2991525 said:
I don't think anyone can really answer that. On paper, you would think they could perform better than they have to date.

But results are what matters and what we're seeing is a team that's not quite good enough. Lot of time for them to turn it around, but do we see this as a contender. Can't say that I do.


Me, too..

I think it really comes down to the organization's philosophical stance. You'd hear stories about some of the real putrid franchises over the years -- how the Saints were run for the better part of the last 20 years or however long, the Lions, etc. Certainly we're not in their class, but I just think Jones' come-to-the-owner-with-concerns, glamour-over-substance approach is rotten.

People like to blame Jerry for his selection of head coaches, up-and-down -- but mostly down -- draft history, etc. And all of that hurts. But to me it's the non-businesslike approach to football that this franchise takes that is continually leading us down the wrong path.

This offseason, Jerry hinted, stated directly and made moves (getting rid of T.O.) that suggested he was interested in change.

He then went on to promote how a $1.2 billion stadium would inspire this team.
 

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ScipioCowboy;2991510 said:
Or, perhaps insanity is flipping a weighted coin and expecting the non-weighted outcome.:)

Granted things are not ideal at the moment. This team has disappointed us all this past decade. But there have been too many times where things just "clicked" for me not to throw in the towel four games in.

It may not happen with this group, Slate can call me insane, Rampage can do whatever it is that he does, but I'm gonna go down with this ship if need be.
 
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