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qb's stock going down like the nas-dak
We’ve lost several vets and haven’t been active in free agency. The only plug-in play vet we added was an LB. We’re going to have to go with several first and second year players.Agree they have a lot of immediate needs, but nothing wrong with drafting for future. Plenty of plug-in vets that will outperform mid/late round rookies as an interim plan.
We won’t take one. We can’t afford to use two picks from this draft on QBs. That would give us only 5 picks to address all the needs we have. Plus it’s hard to develop two young QBs. The Cowboys have to find out about Lance and are focusing on trying to develop him.The idea that a QB is off the board on day 3 is kind of silly. All 32 teams have the potential to take a QB with a 6th or 7th round pick.
Actually, I agree with desperado...We’ve lost several vets and haven’t been active in free agency. The only plug-in play vet we added was an LB. We’re going to have to go with several first and second year players.
once you read deep into the article you see Schefter makes it a moot point saying if they feel like Lance has made strides they wont even need to do that this year.No way the Cowboys take a QB in this draft after already using a 4th round pick from this draft on Lance. They have far too many needs that haven’t been addressed in free agency and only have 6 picks.
Don't worry. GM Jethro will start FA after the draft at the $ store.We’ve lost several vets and haven’t been active in free agency. The only plug-in play vet we added was an LB. We’re going to have to go with several first and second year players.
The Cowboys won’t know what strides Lance has made until he plays in a game.once you read deep into the article you see Schefter makes it a moot point saying if they feel like Lance has made strides they wont even need to do that this year.
He will not play in a game, unless Dak gets hurt.The Cowboys won’t know what strides Lance has made until he plays in a game.
They made the trade to cover themselves in the event Dak isn’t extended and they move on. It’s not a wasted pick yet.He will not play in a game, unless Dak gets hurt.
That is why the trade was moronic.
I guarantee you that Garnder Minshew and Aidan O'Connell will not prevent LV from making another move at QB. If they have a QB they love in the draft when they pick then yeah these rumors can be put to bed. Until they select a QB in the draft or Dak signs an extension I think all options need to be taken seriously. Minshew is basically just making high end backup money though.The Raiders last month signed Gardner Minshew II to a two-year, $25 million deal - with $15 M guaranteed.
He will compete with incumbent starter Aidan O'Connell for QB1.
And - new GM Tom Telesco and new HC Antonio Pierce have not totally ruled out picking a QB in the upcoming draft, if a prospect they deem will be a good fit is still on the board during their selection(s).
The duo starting out running the Silver And Black aren't going to do an about-face a month later.
So I think these Prescott-to-Vegas rumors can be put to bed.
$25 mil, $15 mil guaranteed - to Minshew just last month- the new Raiders GM+HC duo is not doing a 180° turn and fork over a good number of substantial drafts picks (2024/2025) for Prescott, plus having to negotiate a top-market deal for him to even forgo his NTC clause to leave the Cowboys.I guarantee you that Garnder Minshew and Aidan O'Connell will not prevent LV from making another move at QB. If they have a QB they love in the draft when they pick then yeah these rumors can be put to bed. Until they select a QB in the draft or Dak signs an extension I think all options need to be taken seriously. Minshew is basically just making high end backup money though.
Far too many needs? Did they fill any needs in free agency? There's a reason why. They aren't gearing up for a run this year with Dak so they very well could draft a QB and I'm all for it.No way the Cowboys take a QB in this draft after already using a 4th round pick from this draft on Lance. They have far too many needs that haven’t been addressed in free agency and only have 6 picks.
They signed an LB who can be plugged in as a starter. The rest of the money is going on three players if they decide to extend all three. They have a dilemma which is why we haven’t been active in free agency. They won’t draft a QB and you can book it! Dream all you want but it ain’t happening.Far too many needs? Did they fill any needs in free agency? There's a reason why. They aren't gearing up for a run this year with Dak so they very well could draft a QB and I'm all for it.
The Cowboys can’t just trade Dak. All Dak is going to get when he becomes a free agent is the amount of the best offer from one of the 32 teams. He’s betting on himself. It isn’t about who likes who. He will not be the first unrestricted free agent in NFL history. Todd France, Dak Prescott, and Jerry Jones all know how the system works. Good lord, Cowboys fans think this is some sort of unprecedented scenario. How much would the Chargers want for Herbert and who can the Cowboys sign him while still tied up under the cap with the residue of the Prescott contract?I know this, the team really likes 2 QB's in this draft. Joe Milton and Spencer Rattler. Here is a crazy hypothetical. WHAT IF, the Chargers move on from Herbert and draft JJ McCarthy, Jim Harbaughs guy? Would Dallas be interested in Herbert? Trade Herbert to Dallas for a future 2025 1st etc, and we trade Dak for a draft haul that includes players. I have a funny feeling they are waiting this out in a game of chicken to see if they have any takers on Dak and what the Chargers do at 4. Remember, Harbaugh believes in JJ McCarthy 100% to run his scheme and Herbert isnt his guy. The ramifications of what they do at 4 are huge. Nobody is talking about this possibility. Joe Milton has been worked out by Dallas at least 2 times, same with Rattler. They also worked out Michael Pratt of Tulane several times. CLEARLY they are looking for a QB. So shefty isnt just throwing this out there. He knows something. Usually, I would never take him that serious, but in this case, its real. We all know the Joneses are not fans of Daks agent and they might not have the stomach to jump back in bed with Dak again due to this fact and the fact of the heavy cost. We all might be shocked as far as what they are doing behind the scenes that we have no idea of. Whether or not it happens is another thing. But if we pay attention to the strong hints Jerry has been dropping...ie his Ceedee comment, and his "all in" comment, that may be what he meant. I am confident we are drafting a QB or acquiring a big name one.
And you may be right but it’s crazy to think minshew at $25m /2 years is going to even be part of the equation here. That’s peanuts for todays cap number.$25 mil, $15 mil guaranteed - to Minshew just last month- the new Raiders GM+HC duo is not doing a 180° turn and fork over a good number of substantial drafts picks (2024/2025) for Prescott, plus having to negotiate a top-market deal for him to even forgo his NTC clause to leave the Cowboys.
As I stated responses earlier in this thread and another one ...Las Vegas' plans for their QB room for the upcoming 2024 season do not include Dak Prescott.
That's not "peanuts".And you may be right but it’s crazy to think minshew at $25m /2 years is going to even be part of the equation here. That’s peanuts for todays cap number.