Schefter on Philly radio

[Kaiser]

I like Wentz but think he will be gone at 4, no way do I trade up.

I like Goff but I don't see enough upside in him to take anywhere near 4.

If the Rams give up 15 and two seconds for 4, I would trade down hoping for Paxton Lynch in a heartbeat. Then take Noah Spence if Lynch is off the board.

 

[Rogerthat12]

I just think it's the media assuming something because the Eagles have been known to be more on the exciting side during the offseason. Philly would have to give up way too much to jump up to number 1 and they already made a big investment on two QBs.

Yep, they also do not have a second round pick, so if they move up you are looking at next years resources including this years.

 

[Longboysfan]

I really hope they don't trade up. Dallas has very good picks in each round, and this team needs more young talent.

Jerry has shown so many different opinions along with Garrett and Steven Jones - it would be hard to read a direction they will go in.
Unless they sit in on the draft meetings have acess to the scouting reports and the pre draft simulated picks sessions - who knows.

 

[Alexander]

Seems to be a lot of chatter that Lynch could be Dallas' QB of choice.

 

[robjay04]

Seems to be a lot of chatter that Lynch could be Dallas' QB of choice.

It's realistic.

Wentz has gotten a lot of hype but he was considered a second round pick not too long ago. Lynch/Goff were considered 1A and 1B. The emergence of Wentz basically knocked Lynch out of the discussion for a top 5 pick as far as the media is concerned. Just because the media feels this way doesn't mean each individual team does. I am sure there are some teams that still prefer Lynch.

 

[Sydla]

Seems to be a lot of chatter that Lynch could be Dallas' QB of choice.

Guy at his pro day said he talked to Lynch's agent and teams that have shown the most interest were Eagles, Rams and Cowboys.

I just am not sure you can take him at 4. To me, he's the rawest of the three first round guys, even moreso than Wentz.

 

[bayeslife]

This is what I'm afraid of. Them falling in love with a certain guy and trading multiple picks this year or next years #1 for Wentz or whoever.

I would trade a 1 to move up for Wentz. That's the cheapest deal you're going to get for a franchise QB.

 

[robjay04]

Guy at his pro day said he talked to Lynch's agent and teams that have shown the most interest were Eagles, Rams and Cowboys.

I just am not sure you can take him at 4. To me, he's the rawest of the three first round guys, even moreso than Wentz.

Raw isn't bad when he isn't going to see the field much, if at all, for 2 years at the minimum.

 

[bayeslife]

Guy at his pro day said he talked to Lynch's agent and teams that have shown the most interest were Eagles, Rams and Cowboys.

I just am not sure you can take him at 4. To me, he's the rawest of the three first round guys, even moreso than Wentz.

Cowboys would be mocked for the next 2 years if they picked him at 4 but I'd they believe in him it wouldn't bother me.

 

[Alexander]

It's realistic.

Wentz has gotten a lot of hype but he was considered a second round pick not too long ago. Lynch/Goff were considered 1A and 1B. The emergence of Wentz basically knocked Lynch out of the discussion for a top 5 pick as far as the media is concerned. Just because the media feels this way doesn't mean each individual team does. I am sure there are some teams that still prefer Lynch.

That and the whole front office was with him in Orlando for the workout. That is not exactly a worthwhile "smokescreen".

 

[Sydla]

Raw isn't bad when he isn't going to see the field much, if at all, for 2 years at the minimum.

But raw also isn't necessarily good even if he does sit for 2 years. It means he has more kinks and issues to work through than the other two.

I like Lynch but I think of the three, he's the scariest proposition at 4 with the largest risk of bust.

 

[StarBoyz83]

I wouldn't want this at all. I don't see a guy worth giving up multiple high picks for.

If we move up to 1 or 2 then we are probably giving up our #1 next year. Which hopefully is the last pick in the first round, but I still wouldn't want to do it.

Last pick in the 1st round

I don't want to give up picks either though.

 

[reddyuta]

Seems to be a lot of chatter that Lynch could be Dallas' QB of choice.

I like him too but he needs the most work.

 

[DFWJC]

I would trade a 1 to move up for Wentz. That's the cheapest deal you're going to get for a franchise QB.

The cheapest deal your going to get is to pay the price that other franchises paid for their Super Bowl winning, franchise QBs:
Wilson
Brees
Rodgers
Roethlisberger
Brady
Flacco
etc



None of those players went in the top 5 and most not anywhere remotely near it.

In the last 2 decades, a top 5 QB actually winning a SB is the anomaly

 

[robjay04]

The cheapest deal your going to get is to pay the price that other franchises paid for their Super Bowl winning, franchise QBs:
Wilson
Brees
Rodgers
Roethlisberger
Brady
Flacco
etc



None of those players went in the top 5 and most not anywhere remotely near it.

In the last 2 decades, a top 5 QB actually winning a SB is the anomaly

I agree and I made the same argument in the past but I have changed my mind. I changed my mind because I look around the league at teams like the Jets, Commanders, Browns, Raiders, Broncos, Cardinals, Vikings, Bears, Bengals, Jets, Texans, Bills, Dolphins, Saints, Rams, Chiefs and Jaguars that have never drafted a franchise QB in my lifetime (I'm 30). It's hard to find a franchise QB, chances are you will not land one outside of the first round and we are in a premier position to find our guy now so we don't have to wait 10-15 years.

Even the guys you listed...Brady and Wilson are the only players that were not a fairly high draft pick (Brees was an early second I believe and the rest were first round picks).

It would be awesome to land a franchise QB with our 3rd or 4th round pick but it's a pure gamble to pass on better pedigree players chasing your own Tom Brady or Russell Wilson.

 

[DFWJC]

I agree and I made the same argument in the past but I have changed my mind. I changed my mind because I look around the league at teams like the Jets, Commanders, Browns, Raiders, Broncos, Cardinals, Vikings, Bears, Bengals, Jets, Texans, Bills, Dolphins, Saints, Rams, Chiefs and Jaguars that have never drafted a franchise QB in my lifetime (I'm 30). It's hard to find a franchise QB, chances are you will not land one outside of the first round and we are in a premier position to find our guy now so we don't have to wait 10-15 years.

Even the guys you listed...Brady and Wilson are the only players that were not a fairly high draft pick (Brees was an early second I believe).

It would be awesome to land a franchise QB with our 3rd or 4th round pick but it's a pure gamble to pass on better pedigree players chasing your own Tom Brady or Russell Wilson.

My point is that it does not have to be in the top 5....let alone some panicky trade up to mortgage the future when we're already in the top 5
A top 5 pick--value-wise--is about the same as two mid 1st rounders. Yet except for the Mannings, ALL of the SB winning QBs have been selected later than the top 5 in recent history. Most much later.

Furthermore and just as importantly is that ALL of those QBs listed were not even the 1st QB taken in their draft.
Brees, Roethlisberger, Flacco, Rodgers....all basically 1st rounders taken later in the round.
So those saying we won't get our chances are wrong. All of those recent SB winning QBs are proof otherwise.
Our problem is that we haven't taken one anywhere in the 1st round in 20+ years...it's not that we needed a top 5 pick to do it

So to clarify, I'm not saying try to find one in the later rounds. Just saying that top 5 is not necessary whatsoever.

 

[robjay04]

My point is that it does not have to be in the top 5....let alone some panicky trade up to mortgage the future when we're already in the top 5
A top 5 pick--value-wise--is about the same as two mid 1st rounders. Yet except for the Mannings, ALL of the SB winning QBs have been selected later than the top 5 in recent history. Most much later.

Furthermore and just as importantly is that ALL of those QBs listed were not even the 1st QB taken in their draft.
Brees, Roethlisberger, Flacco, Rodgers....all basically 1st rounders taken later in the round.
So those saying we won't get our chances are wrong. All of those recent SB winning QBs are proof otherwise.
Our problem is that we haven't taken one anywhere in the 1st round in 20+ years...it's not that we needed a top 5 pick to do it

So to clarify, I'm not saying try to find one in the later rounds. Just saying that top 5 is not necessary whatsoever.

It may not be necessary but if you want one of the top 3 players, it is the only sure thing in this draft.

I personally want a QB but I agree---I don't want Dallas reaching one or mortgaging their future for one. If the Titans are willing to take a deal well below value, maybe if we feel Wentz is the next big thing. If not---just let the draft come to you and don't reach. If the team grades Goff or Lynch as worthy of a top 5 pick, pull the trigger. I don't want to hear any of those "Tony Romo is going to last 5 years" excuses in a few weeks.

 

[MrPhil]

In the last 2 decades, a top 5 QB actually winning a SB is the anomaly

I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you here.

In the last 2 decades, 6 Super Bowl Champions have been quarterbacks that were drafted at #1 overall, that is 30% of the Super Bowls over that time frame. I would not characterize 30% as an "anomaly".

If you look at the breakdown of Super Bowl wins in the last 2 decades by where the QBs were drafted it looks like this:

First overall = 6 Super Bowl wins or 30%
Top 15 = 9 Super Bowl wins or 45%

1st Round = 11 Super Bowl wins or 55%
2nd Round = 2 Super Bowl wins or 10%
3rd Round = 1 Super Bowl win or 5%
6th Round = 4 Super Bowl wins or 20%
9th Round = 1 Super Bowl win or 5%
UDFA = 1 Super Bowl win or 5%

Now, one might look at the 6th Round and say "see, 20% of the last 20 Super Bowls were won by a QB drafted in the 6th Round." Well, that's true but it is also true that all four of those were won by the same guy, Tom Brady. I would say that is more of an anomaly than a Top 5 QB winning the Super Bowl.

For those that are curious, 3 different QBs drafted first overall have won Super Bowls and 7 different QBs drafted in the 1st round have won Super Bowls.

 

[Super_Kazuya]

Schefter really reached to invent a story of Jerry casting a "smokescreen" (while ignoring the hundreds of times Jerry has done exactly what he said he would do). I almost feel sorry for the QB or bust club as they desperately cling to hope based on stories like these. Smokescreen... lol.

 

[Rogerthat12]

Seems to be a lot of chatter that Lynch could be Dallas' QB of choice.

Peter Fleischer

✔ ‎@Peter_Fleischer
Got to chat with Leigh Steinberg before Paxton got going today. Told me the Cowboys, Eagles and Rams have shown the most interest thus far.

12:56 PM - 6 Apr 2016