School Shooter, No remorse

[Doomsday101]

Executing him is letting him off easy. Let him spend the rest of his life looking over his shoulder in a maximum security prison in general population. Even solitary is to his benefit because he will not have to worry about physical abuse coming his way.

I have a feeling he will not last too long in the yard, someone will get him eventually. He needs to go through mental and physical anguish for a long time.

I agree he is a waste of perfectly good air and resources but killing him soon kind of lets him off the hook in a way. If there ever was a case to execute someone rather quickly, this is one of those instances. I would only agree so the families can get closure. Personally, If someone in my family was involved, I would want to see him tortured by bigger and badder inmates for years then executed, let him think about what is coming.

Hell I would put money in other inmates commissary to make sure every day was hell

 

[bounce]

Executing him is letting him off easy. Let him spend the rest of his life looking over his shoulder in a maximum security prison in general population. Even solitary is to his benefit because he will not have to worry about physical abuse coming his way.

I have a feeling he will not last too long in the yard, someone will get him eventually. He needs to go through mental and physical anguish for a long time.

I agree he is a waste of perfectly good air and resources but killing him soon kind of lets him off the hook in a way. If there ever was a case to execute someone rather quickly, this is one of those instances. I would only agree so the families can get closure. Personally, If someone in my family was involved, I would want to see him tortured by bigger and badder inmates for years then executed, let him think about what is coming.

I think that's a good thought, but I'm not sure it plays out like that everytime. A death penalty sentence (moot, because he was too young) would probably be more harsh, because you know your expiration date, and it's usually a few years out. Knowing that would weigh on me than not knowing what's going to happen day in and out. Not to mention, he'll probably be in protective custody if there's a hint of people being out for him.

I personally wouldn't be concerned with the mental anguish he could have. If he took the life of my (and other) children, then I wouldn't want him to have the luxury of living, in a prison, or otherwise.

Mentally tortured in prison is still living, which is something those other children never had the chance to do.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think that's a good thought, but I'm not sure it plays out like that everytime. A death penalty sentence (moot, because he was too young) would probably be more harsh, because you know your expiration date, and it's usually a few years out. Knowing that would weigh on me than not knowing what's going to happen day in and out. Not to mention, he'll probably be in protective custody if there's a hint of people being out for him.

I personally wouldn't be concerned with the mental anguish he could have. If he took the life of my (and other) children, then I wouldn't want him to have the luxury of living, in a prison, or otherwise.

Mentally tortured in prison is still living, which is something those other children never had the chance to do.

Very true. Not by accident these death row inmates appeal over and over until there are no appeals left. If they wanted to die they would waive the appeals but few ever do that. Many go out kicking and screaming, human nature is to survive

 

[Sarge]

Punk.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

Executing him is letting him off easy. Let him spend the rest of his life looking over his shoulder in a maximum security prison in general population. Even solitary is to his benefit because he will not have to worry about physical abuse coming his way.

I have a feeling he will not last too long in the yard, someone will get him eventually. He needs to go through mental and physical anguish for a long time.

I agree he is a waste of perfectly good air and resources but killing him soon kind of lets him off the hook in a way. If there ever was a case to execute someone rather quickly, this is one of those instances. I would only agree so the families can get closure. Personally, If someone in my family was involved, I would want to see him tortured by bigger and badder inmates for years then executed, let him think about what is coming.

I find myself agreeing with you often. This is no exception.

 

[Doomsday101]

i don't have a problem with the death penalty, but it's not that great of a deterant

I don't know it is a fact that every person who has been put to death never committed another crime.

It sure as hell deterred them. :laugh2:

As for detering others if the death penalty does not do it nothing else will but at least they know in some states like Texas we do not play around you will be put to death.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

I have a feeling he won't be smiling much in prison. It's easy to be tough when your surrounded by policemen in court. When your in the penitentiary I imagine he'll find a whole new world awaiting.

He'll be in there with people rougher and more psycho than he ever imagined possible. Kid has no idea what's waiting for him.

 

[Hoofbite]

Bambo chutes under his fingernails. Burned with a hot soldering iron. Toes broken, allowed to set and rebroken again, over and over again.

Nothing is too cruel or unusual.

This guy deserves day after day of a living hell.

I don't even want him in solitary because after a long enough period he'll literally go crazy and then it loses it's effect.

If they can't just dispose of him as they should I want him in general population fearing and dreading waking up each and every day.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Why didn't the judge have him instantly removed before he started with all that?

 

[Doomsday101]

Why didn't the judge have him instantly removed before he started with all that?

Good question. They could have order him to cover up the t-shirt with Killer writen on it and could have him removed from the court room. They did it with Manson.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Good question. They could have order him to cover up the t-shirt with Killer writen on it and could have him removed from the court room. They did it with Manson.

I don't get why the judge didn't just say GET HIM OUT OF HERE!

 

[Doomsday]

I dont understand why they took the death penalty off the table. If the death penalty isnt for scum bags like this clown, than who is it meant for. I doubt he would of been so defiant right before they fried his butt.

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

^ because he was under 18 yrs when he did the crime.

That's the ONLY reason he's exempt from the death penalty.

 

[Shunpike]

^ because he was under 18 yrs when he did the crime.

That's the ONLY reason he's exempt from the death penalty.

I hope he gets raped every night until he dies. And I want his death to be as painful as possible.

 

[baj1dallas]

I don't think so, I think if I was a family member of one of the victimes every day that guy takes a breath is one more day without justice.

No it's a day without vengeance. I think being locked up in prison for the rest of his life is as much justice you can get. It's not like killing him brings back any of the dead.

 

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

It gets complicated.

Took a quick look into the background of this.



He had a history of being abused, then he was bullied at school.

T.J. Lane, Chardon High School Shooting Suspect, Was Described As Outcast

He shot five students dead.

Then when sentenced, he shot his finger defiantly in court.

I'm still infuriated at those deeds and still want to him to see the day he deeply regrets doing all this.

But knowing the killer was abused by his father then bullied at school substantially changes this picture.

Past school shootings like Columbine had boys from bad family backgrounds, bullied at school then snaped.

I had a decent upbringing, but was bullied and can definitely relate to them wanting to strike back.

DO NOT CONDONE HIS CRIME, but bullying is an issue that needs to be addressed more...in a few instances, it has resulted in shootings. More often, it subjects students to hell on earth - some of them committing suicide.

So after coverage of a school shooting, some bandwidth of the story should also be spent on if bullying triggered it and some of the students and teachers actually had a part in the slaughter. They also should face some accountability.

 

[Signals]

Watched the video. WOW, just wow. The best punishment would be for him to end up in gen. pop.

I am not familiar with the whole case. What was his motive for the shooting in the first place, or did he have a motive at all?

I am with Sarge, he's just a punk.

 

[Mountaineerfan]

Why didn't the judge have him instantly removed before he started with all that?

The reason probably had something to do with the appeal process. The judges do not want to give even a single reason to have to do it over again. The appeals are mandatory not all are by choice.
It sounded like they gave the families a warning about the fact he was going to make a statement. If you go through the pain once hopefully you should never have to do it a second time in public.
I know its not the same situation but it reminds me of a new jersey case where a man had raped and killed a young boy back in the late 70's early 80's I think. The parents did not want to have to go through a trial and hear all the things that their son had been through so they plead him to a lesser charge than death. The man was sentenced to life in prison. Well at the time of sentencing life in prison meant 25 maybe 30 years then parole. Fast forward 25-30 years and the man was still alive and was paroled and they had to relive the entire thing again in public, the father even called a radio station and all but said he was going to kill the man.
I say do it right the first time and you at least don't have to worry about them taking another breath.
This country has gotten away from the rules of punishment which are certain,swift and severe.

 

[Doomsday101]

No it's a day without vengeance. I think being locked up in prison for the rest of his life is as much justice you can get. It's not like killing him brings back any of the dead.

You can call it vengeance if you want but I see no need to feed or house or cloth this monster if you do then fine that is your view but I will not pity this guy and yes i think he deserves death. He is not the victim he took innocent life he made his choice.

 

[CliffnDallas]

If I had him. He would pray for death long, long before it's embrace.