School Shooter, No remorse

[CowboyMcCoy]

Yeah Berry got off DR by testifying against the others. I agree I think the appeals can go overboard. I think some of the technical appeals are bit ridicules. I do think it is something that you have to be careful with because once it is done it can't be undone.

Yes there are situation like Ted Bundy it was clear cut no need to prolong the enviable and by the way he went crying like a little punk he was. He had no problem taking the lives of innocent girls I had no pity for him either.

Im not one who celebrates the death penalty but yes there are some who clearly deserve the punishment and that is what it is punishment. If it deters one out of 10 then it was worth it.

I think if you intentionally murder someone it's probably what you have coming, but that's probably a discussion we could have over at Reality's other board.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think if you intentionally murder someone it's probably what you have coming, but that's probably a discussion we could have over at Reality's other board.

I think many including myself feel some deserve the maximum punishment for the crime they committed. A guy blows up a building killing many he clearly deserved the max. The notion that sitting in jail is worse? I see a lot of death row inmates looking to get their sentenced over turned to life in prison you don't see many asking for death.

I don’t consider my view as an extreme view and as I said I do think the death penalty should only be used in certain instances. I don’t cheer for it, it does not make me feel better but I do think it is just in certain extreme cases.

If it deters 1 person then good

 

[Denim Chicken]

If it deters 1 person then good

That rational could be dangerous.

 

[Doomsday101]

That rational could be dangerous.

Why as I said in extreme cases yes and appeals should be given and there should not be a doubt about the crime.

If you don't like the death penalty I understand many feel different, many are tied of these vicious and heartless criminals having more rights than those they took life from. I know for some it makes them sleep good thinking how hard and tough prison is but for many they don't give a about prison. Hell many of these guys have been in and out of prison most of their lives they don't care. So don't give me this crud of well life in prison is worse than death it is not

 

[Denim Chicken]

Why as I said in extreme cases yes and appeals should be given and there should not be a doubt about the crime.

If you don't like the death penalty I understand many feel different, many are tied of these vicious and heartless criminals having more rights than those they took life from. I know for some it makes them sleep good thinking how hard and tough prison is but for many they don't give a about prison. Hell many of these guys have been in and out of prison most of their lives they don't care. So don't give me this crud of well life in prison is worse than death it is not

Life is always better then death; I won't debate you there.

My point is about the rational of deterrence as a function of the DP. If that were the case, then you could extend that same rational to torture and other unsavory punishments much better suited to the task. As I stated before, the function the DP serves is what some call justice and others call revenge.

 

[Doomsday101]

Life is always better then death; I won't debate you there.

My point is about the rational of deterrence as a function of the DP. If that were the case, then you could extend that same rational to torture and other unsavory punishments much better suited to the task. As I stated before, the function the DP serves is what some call justice and others call revenge.

As I said if 1 out of 10 criminals were detered then great that means some innocent life was spared. How you want to describe it as punishment or revenge that is up to you but these people knowing full well that they would face death made their choice when they : drug a man behind their truck, or parked a U-haul in front of a building with explosive knowing many lifes would be lost or walking into a movie theater and open firing on people watching a movie.

They reaped what they sowed.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

I think many including myself feel some deserve the maximum punishment for the crime they committed. A guy blows up a building killing many he clearly deserved the max. The notion that sitting in jail is worse? I see a lot of death row inmates looking to get their sentenced over turned to life in prison you don't see many asking for death.

I don’t consider my view as an extreme view and as I said I do think the death penalty should only be used in certain instances. I don’t cheer for it, it does not make me feel better but I do think it is just in certain extreme cases.

If it deters 1 person then good

Yeah, I agree to some extent. I'm a little more apt to think that sitting in jail is undesirable punishment fit for some crimes.. I wish certain people who have killed others would be put within the most dangerous and sadistic population of prisons, then executed. I don't cheer for it either. But I think if you willingly kill someone and you have no just motive, then your life should be taken as well.

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

As I said if 1 out of 10 criminals were detered then great that means some innocent life was spared. How you want to describe it as punishment or revenge that is up to you but these people knowing full well that they would face death made their choice when they : drug a man behind their truck, or parked a U-haul in front of a building with explosive knowing many lifes would be lost or walking into a movie theater and open firing on people watching a movie.

They reaped what they sowed.

Agreed.

 

[Doomsday101]

Yeah, I agree to some extent. I'm a little more apt to think that sitting in jail is undesirable punishment fit for some crimes.. I wish certain people who have killed others would be put within the most dangerous and sadistic population of prisons, then executed. I don't cheer for it either. But I think if you willingly kill someone and you have no just motive, then your life should be taken as well.

I think for some prison would be a living hell for others it is nothing but a way of life. Just like on the outside you join into a click or gang, your needs are taken care of even if it is done by illegal means after all what are you going to do put them in jail. :laugh2:

 

[CowboyMcCoy]

I think for some prison would be a living hell for others it is nothing but a way of life. Just like on the outside you join into a click or gang, your needs are taken care of even if it is done by illegal means after all what are you going to do put them in jail. :laugh2:

Yeah, that's the mentality some prisoners have.

 

[Doomsday101]

Yeah, that's the mentality some prisoners have.

I know when I went to county jail to do 30 days, there were many waiting to go to TDC, they could not wait to get out of the County Jail and to Prison where they have more movement and freedom than at the County Jail.

Many were going back for their 2nd or 3rd time and it was no big deal, for me sure the thought of going to a place like Huntsville or one of the other Texas prison would scare the hell out of me for them it is just the life they are use to. In the courtroom they may act sorry but in jail they brag about it.