Twitter: Schoonmaker's snaps are declining due to inconsistent play

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Does it really matter? As long as Luke is comfortable and enjoying his best life, that is the important thing. He isn't just a football player, he is part of the family.
 

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Yup. The "we draft well" narrative has been shot down and stomped on, but people keep repeating it. Taco, Jaylon, Mazi, Kelvin, Schooner, Trysten Hill, LVE, Connor Williams. All drafted in the 1st/2nd round since 2016, all busts. That's 8 drafts including 15 picks in rounds 1/2. (Not including 2024 draft, to be seen). 7 busts out of 15, and Diggs may be joining that list.
draft well doesn't mean draft perfectly. even with the warts and misses they're still in the upper levels of drafting over the past several years. it has been glaringly bad recently though.
 

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This is bad coaching, he wasn't worth a 2nd but he is athlethic, big and strong, no reason why he can not develop in this offense.

Cowboy are such a disfunctional team.
 

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Our last four 2nd round picks:

Marshawn Kneeland - injured
Luke Schoonmaker - dog house
Sam Williams - injured/suspended
Kelvin Joseph - out of the league


This dude is a bum and should have never been drafted by the Cowboys. At the time he was drafted the Cowboys HAD two TE's on their roster who were both players and contributors, not anymore. Now they're down to one real TE and not a lot of backup behind him.............
 

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Wait. First, we draft tight ends in the second round like it is some sort of pre-requisite (Mad Genius). Now, we are drafting second round tight ends who are fragile in the head?
O'Cyrus was available when we drafted Schoonmaker and Darnell Washington was available when we were on the clock in the 3rd round, who is a much better blocking TE.
 

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How in the world do you put Zeke and Schoon in the same category? lol

A coach can be in charge of discipline, like when a player misses meetings, but you can't jut put someone in charge to ensure someone doesn't suck. lol Some players you can do as good a job coaching as possible and they will just never live up to what they were hoped to be. Schoon was a bad draft choice. The problem isn't how he has been treated once on the team.
Well either Schoon was a really bad pick, or our coaches haven't coached him up to be effective. It seems like every other team in the NFL drafts a TE, and they turn into a player. We have failed miserably, and Ferguson has regressed this year. Somebody has to take the blame for this, right? The Zeke thing is just another failure in the entire organization not just coaches
 

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Our first two picks this year haven’t been very good so far.
:huh:

Guyton was the 8th OT taken and had a 2nd round grade meaning he wasn't coming in polished. We knew that as soon as he was draft.

Kneeland was making plays and looking pretty good in his playing time before he got hurt.

To say they "haven’t been very good so far" is a overreaction unless your expectations were too high to begin with.
 

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:huh:

Guyton was the 8th OT taken and had a 2nd round grade meaning he wasn't coming in polished. We knew that as soon as he was draft.

Kneeland was making plays and looking pretty good in his playing time before he got hurt.

To say they "haven’t been very good so far" is an overreaction unless your expectations were too high to begin with.
With the dead offseason we had I wanted to see more from this draft. The jury will be out for awhile with this draft class. If we’re not going to add quality veteran players we have to bank on our draft. I said prior to the season if this draft class doesn’t hit the ground running and our first two picks from last years draft class doesn’t show vast improvement we’re likely going to be in for a rough season.
 

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Well either Schoon was a really bad pick, or our coaches haven't coached him up to be effective.
He was a bad pick. I said it on draft day and I’m still saying it. There’s a chance Schoon and Mazi might not be on the team next season.
 

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With the dead offseason we had I wanted to see more from this draft.
At least 5 (or more) starters. Just a little over 6 months from the draft, this class is looking like it's a pretty good one.

Round 1 Pick 29 - OT Tyler Guyton Oklahoma
Round 2 Pick 56 - DE Marshawn Kneeland Western Michigan
Round 3 Pick 73 - OG/OC Cooper Beebe Kansas St
Round 3 Pick 87 - LB Marist Liufau Notre Dame
Round 5 Pick 174 - CB Caelen Carson Wake Forest
Round 6 Pick 216 - WR Ryan Flournoy SE Missouri
Round 7 Pick 233 - OT - Nathan Thomas Louisiana
Round 7 Pick 244 - DT/NT Justin Rogers Auburn
 

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At least 5 (or more) starters. Just a little over 6 months from the draft, this class is looking like it's a pretty good one.

Round 1 Pick 29 - OT Tyler Guyton Oklahoma
Round 2 Pick 56 - DE Marshawn Kneeland Western Michigan
Round 3 Pick 73 - OG/OC Cooper Beebe Kansas St
Round 3 Pick 87 - LB Marist Liufau Notre Dame
Round 5 Pick 174 - CB Caelen Carson Wake Forest
Round 6 Pick 216 - WR Ryan Flournoy SE Missouri
Round 7 Pick 233 - OT - Nathan Thomas Louisiana
Round 7 Pick 244 - DT/NT Justin Rogers Auburn
We left ourselves no choice but to start them with all the players we lost and virtually no activity in free agency. Guyton needs a lot of work and probably got pushed out there too soon. We’re dealing with growing pains with all these players.
 

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Our last four 2nd round picks:

Marshawn Kneeland - injured
Luke Schoonmaker - dog house
Sam Williams - injured/suspended
Kelvin Joseph - out of the league


This kid has a much larger natural talent base than Fergie who is slow slow like Frankenstein slow.
Coaching here is at fault...........this kid goes to another team dont be surprised if he becomes a bonified starting TE.
 

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Wouldn’t it be wonderful if Dallas had drafted O’Cyrus Torrence instead of this useless tight end?

I said it heading into that draft and was told they weren’t considering bolstering the line.

Torrence is now a mainstay in the Buffalo line and Schoonmaker joins a cast of thousands as a Jerry Jones mistake.

Buffoonery is the hallmark of Jerry’s GM resume’.
 

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At least 5 (or more) starters. Just a little over 6 months from the draft, this class is looking like it's a pretty good one.

Round 1 Pick 29 - OT Tyler Guyton Oklahoma
Round 2 Pick 56 - DE Marshawn Kneeland Western Michigan
Round 3 Pick 73 - OG/OC Cooper Beebe Kansas St
Round 3 Pick 87 - LB Marist Liufau Notre Dame
Round 5 Pick 174 - CB Caelen Carson Wake Forest
Round 6 Pick 216 - WR Ryan Flournoy SE Missouri
Round 7 Pick 233 - OT - Nathan Thomas Louisiana
Round 7 Pick 244 - DT/NT Justin Rogers Auburn
Being on the roster of a really bad team doesn't mean we hit it out the park on this year's draft. How many of these players would be on the roster of the Lions or the Ravens?

Time will tell for sure. In the end we most likely will get 3 average starters and a backup or two. That doesn't move you into the top tier of talent in the league. Your probably just treading water.
 
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