Schottenheimer: We shot ourselves in the foot with too many 3rd and longs

Mac_MaloneV1 said:
The point of the caveat is that it's not like he was so good at LT that he's necessarily your best option there if Tyron is out, especially if it creates a gap at LG.
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Better than Edgoa by a huge margin, and a huge gap would not have at LG, a gap yes, but much more manageable by playing Edgoa at LG instead, I'm sure you can agree with that.

It does bring up a question on how they view Richards though, and that doesn't have to be a negative view, just either don't think he's ready or are adamant on making him a guard.
 
Mike McCarthy has only been a play-caller with the Cowboys for three games so it’s dangerous to read into things too much. But his run tendencies on first downs in the redzone are certainly cause for concern.

The Cowboys are currently running the ball 81.82 percent of the time on 1st-and-10 in the red zone. Running the ball at a 50 percent balance on first down isn’t statistically advisable, a rate of nearly 82 percent is downright inexcusable.

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/lists/cowboys-week-3-by-the-numbers/
 
CCBoy said:
Mike McCarthy has only been a play-caller with the Cowboys for three games so it’s dangerous to read into things too much. But his run tendencies on first downs in the redzone are certainly cause for concern.

The Cowboys are currently running the ball 81.82 percent of the time on 1st-and-10 in the red zone. Running the ball at a 50 percent balance on first down isn’t statistically advisable, a rate of nearly 82 percent is downright inexcusable.

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/lists/cowboys-week-3-by-the-numbers/
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Excellent post.

This is why people are bashing the pick. Dude was forced to pass and arizona dropped the entire defense.
 
Gambit said:
Better than Edgoa by a huge margin, and a huge gap would not have at LG, a gap yes, but much more manageable by playing Edgoa at LG instead, I'm sure you can agree with that.

It does bring up a question on how they view Richards though, and that doesn't have to be a negative view, just either don't think he's ready or are adamant on making him a guard.
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I don't buy the logic that Tyler is significantly better than Edoga at LT but not at LG - especially to the degree that it would make any difference. That's a pretty baseless assumption.

They probably didn't want 3 rookies starting, or at least it would have factored in.
 
Whyjerry said:
This guy has been a crap OC his whole career. Not a surprise.
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Basically McCarthy is the OC now. This guy just has something of an overseer role or something. Not really sure what he does to be honest.
 
Mac_MaloneV1 said:
I don't buy the logic that Tyler is significantly better than Edoga at LT but not at LG - especially to the degree that it would make any difference. That's a pretty baseless assumption.

They probably didn't want 3 rookies starting, or at least it would have factored in.
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Tyler Smith excelled at left tackle last season. Edoga was serviceable at guard this year so starting him at LT in this game was an odd move. This is not baseless, it's rooted in fact. The two players should have been swapped from where they lined up in this game. The way Edoga played Sunday confirmed it.
 
Mac_MaloneV1 said:
I don't buy the logic that Tyler is significantly better than Edoga at LT but not at LG
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I think I was unclear, let me try again.

Tyler Smith is better than Edgoa at both LT and LG spots.

Edgoa is better as a LG than he (Edgoa) is a LT.

This is why I said, in the circumstances of yesterday, they would have been better to play Tyler at LT and Edgoa at LG.
 
Gambit said:
I think I was unclear, let me try again.

Tyler Smith is better than Edgoa at both LT and LG spots.

Edgoa is better as a LG than he (Edgoa) is a LT.

This is why I said, in the circumstances of yesterday, they would have been better to play Tyler at LT and Edgoa at LG.
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Yea but the question isn't whether Edoga is better at LG than LT, it's what's the difference between the two. Tyler is a better LG than LT also.
 
Mac_MaloneV1 said:
Yea but the question isn't whether Edoga is better at LG than LT, it's what's the difference between the two. Tyler is a better LG than LT also.
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I don't think it's a question whose better at LT between those 2. I think that's pretty clear.

They told Tyler he would be exclusive as guard just before camp, that may play a part in decision too
 
Carson said:
Excellent post.

This is why people are bashing the pick. Dude was forced to pass and arizona dropped the entire defense.
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Pretty easy to do when most of your line are backups. Martin, Smith and Biadisz are big misses. You can't run efficiently and don't have the time to pass. Plus the D can play without sending extra guys. If your starters are out there, defense would be played very differently.
 
fairviewfarmer said:
Agree, every time we fall behind, Dak has that deer in the headlights look on the field. Every time.
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Im not sure if I meant it that way, but I won’t disagree.

This team just seems to be able to execute the game plan they had in mind when they get out to a lead. The opponent usually abandons the run in that case, which we have problems with, among other smaller issues that I don’t feel like getting benched for mentioning per rules.

But they are gonna need to get past that because they will not come out and just beat everyone up every week. That’s all on Mike, as they have the talent. Jerry undermining him is something he will have to somehow overcome, as would anyone (Jerry is still a big problem, sorry).

But for me, right now, this team has a tough time coming back when playing from behind.
 
big dog cowboy said:
Play calling. Killed the Cowboys yesterday. Put the defense in a bad spot.
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cardinal scoring drives:
1st - FG drive -6 plays 54 yards
2nd -TD drive-7 plays 82 yards
3rd - TD drive -7 plays 75 yards
4th - FG drive -10 plays 50 yards
5th - FG drive -5 plays 22 yards (shortest scoring drive to end the half basically kicked from the 50)
6th - TD drive -4 plays 76 yards

no doubt the offense redzone was bad..but put the defense in bad spots? Josh Dobbs is the QB here...Josh freaking Dobbs
 
big dog cowboy said:
Play calling. Killed the Cowboys yesterday. Put the defense in a bad spot.
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How in the heck did our playcalling on offense put the defense in a bad position. We started every possession deep in our own end. Arizona didn’t fare much better. They scored on 5 straight possessions, and none were the result of turnovers or great field position. The defense just stunk it up. It’s not like the offense was going 3 and out either. There were plenty of long drives. If the defense was ever worn down, it’s because they couldn’t stop anything.
 
If there is a championship for talking the cowboys will win it every year
 
CowboyFrog said:
cardinal scoring drives:
1st - FG drive -6 plays 54 yards
2nd -TD drive-7 plays 82 yards
3rd - TD drive -7 plays 75 yards
4th - FG drive -10 plays 50 yards
5th - FG drive -5 plays 22 yards (shortest scoring drive to end the half basically kicked from the 50)
6th - TD drive -4 plays 76 yards

no doubt the offense redzone was bad..but put the defense in bad spots? Josh Dobbs is the QB here...Josh freaking Dobbs
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I get that. But the defense was built to protect a lead. They weren't even in that position.
 
big dog cowboy said:
I get that. But the defense was built to protect a lead. They weren't even in that position.
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wait you think the defense was buitl to protect a lead? seriuously BDC? this defense was buit to kill the offense. our offense was built to protect a lead.....I'm curious how this is a question...seriously
 
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