Scott Linehan is looking to complete a trifecta at RB

[Bleu Star]

You tell 'em Bleu!

Elliott is going to be a monster.

Yessirrrr!

 

[dfense]

When you have Zeke and Morris, you only use McFadden if there is an injury. McFradden's quality is in his versatility, not his running per say. Morris is a much better pure runner and will be perfect to come in for tough yards in the 2nd half or to spell Zeke.
Just think of Zeke as Emmitt Smith. Why would you ever take him out unless you have a big lead and you can afford to?

Like I said... "When Dallas has a good lead, bring in McFadden" I'd hate to see the Cowboys up by three scores and Zeke still in the game running and then he gets hurt.

 

[Thefeelofcotton]

I see the RBs like this: Zeke, Morris, DMC, Rod Smith (FB). Dunbar will most likely be on PuP the first half of the season, and very well may be let go or traded depending on how well these backs do. DMC is a complimentary back in that he can;t be the #1 full time (I know I know, last year... whatever). He's better when he spells the #1 and Morris is a good 3rd down back from what I know of him.

 

[CowboyRoy]

1) Well yes if a player stays healthy for 2 straight years. I'm not going to turn around and call them an injury risk. Just like how Tony wasn't an injury risk until he became one recently. You'd look like a fool if you said Romo isn't an injury risk when you look at his entire career. That isn't working something into an agenda that's common sense.

2) Not football related.

3) And he's going to get a ton of carries now?

4) Again, how big a workload do you think he's going to have?

He wasnt injury free for two years. He didnt participate in the off season because of a nagging hammy last year. This year he broke his elbow and is out for all of training camp and the first game. And he did it trying to catch his cell phone. You have to be joking me with this nonsense.

The previous 7 years prior he was injured nearly every year and was averaging 3 yards a carry. McFadden is NOTHING special. Nothing at all. Any fool can gain 1000 yards behind this line with 250 carries. Randle was well on his way before the RKG got kicked off the team.

 

[big dog cowboy]

McFadden is NOTHING special. Nothing at all. Any fool can gain 1000 yards behind this line with 250 carries.

Since DMC had 1089 yards on only 239 carries last year (4.6 avg) he must be a little special...right?

 

[CowboyRoy]

Since DMC had 1089 yards on only 239 carries last year (4.6 avg) he must be a little special...right?

Any decent back could do that behind our line. Dont you agree? What is so special about McFadden for you? Im not seeing it.

Obviously the Cowboys agree do they not? Drafting Zeke and the other rookie and signing Morris?

I like Morris much more than I like McFadden.

 

[khiladi]

Hopefully we will see some Reggie Bush-type passing sets for Zeke with Linehan, like when in Detroit.

 

[jobberone]

Any decent back could do that behind our line. Dont you agree? What is so special about McFadden for you? Im not seeing it.

Obviously the Cowboys agree do they not? Drafting Zeke and the other rookie and signing Morris?

I like Morris much more than I like McFadden.

Going beyond the stats and before them as you should, you watch him play. You aren't even taking into account the problem of having a very poor passing attack. He's not a special back but he was better than average last year.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Going beyond the stats and before them as you should, you watch him play. You aren't even taking into account the problem of having a very poor passing attack. He's not a special back but he was better than average last year.

Depends on what you are looking at. I dont consider 3 TD's in over 200 carries as average. Behind the best Oline in football I think 80% of the backs in the NFL could be better than average.

McFadden definitely did better than I thought he would. But none the less, I was not impressed in the least with his running.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Any decent back could do that behind our line. Dont you agree? What is so special about McFadden for you? Im not seeing it.

Obviously the Cowboys agree do they not? Drafting Zeke and the other rookie and signing Morris?

Considering the garbage we had a QB most of the year for DMC to pull off a 4.6 season was pretty remarkable.

The Cowboys signed Morris to a reasonable deal and will use him in short yardage. He fills a role that needed filled and saved a draft pick.

The ability to draft a generational player like Zeke isn't making any kind of statement about DMC. Jackson was drafted because of the injury to Dunbar.

 

[jobberone]

Depends on what you are looking at. I dont consider 3 TD's in over 200 carries as average. Behind the best Oline in football I think 80% of the backs in the NFL could be better than average.

McFadden definitely did better than I thought he would. But none the less, I was not impressed in the least with his running.

Then you fail to truly understand the situation. How many TDs did the entire team score last year with its misely 17 PPG? Take out the first 2.5 games and then look at it. You still haven't addressed how the lack of a passing game affected the running game and the overall offense nor actually watching the guy run.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Considering the garbage we had a QB most of the year for DMC to pull off a 4.6 season was pretty remarkable.

The Cowboys signed Morris to a reasonable deal and will use him in short yardage. He fills a role that needed filled and saved a draft pick.

The ability to draft a generational player like Zeke isn't making any kind of statement about DMC. Jackson was drafted because of the injury to Dunbar.

I dont see anything remarkable about 4.6 yards per carry and 3 TD's behind this line regardless of who was playing QB.

And to say that them signing Morris and drafting two RB's one being the 4th pick isnt making any kind of statement about the current starter is nothing short of totally ridiculous.

McChicken is old, injury prone, limited as a runner, doesnt fit the blocking scheme here. The team knows it and everyone else knows it and that is exactly they signed Morris and used the #4 pick on Zeke. Because McFadden simply isnt good enough or reliable enough as a back.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Then you fail to truly understand the situation. How many TDs did the entire team score last year with its misely 17 PPG? Take out the first 2.5 games and then look at it. You still haven't addressed how the lack of a passing game affected the running game and the overall offense nor actually watching the guy run.

Watching the guy run is even worse. He stinks. Any fool could get 1000 yards behind this line given over 200 carries regardless of how good or bad the pass game is. And one of the big reasons they could score that many points is because of clowns like McFadden not being able to break a long TD or punch it in. Do you think Zeke is only going to have 3 TD's if Romo goes down? Not a chance.

The Cowboys had to change their entire blocking scheme in order to accommodate the hapless McFadden. And oh by the way, McFadden averaged barely 4 yards per carry the previous 8 years of his career. Get over it, he stinks.

In 9 years McFadden has a total of 28 rushing TD's. That is horrible. The guy is NOT a play maker. He is middling at best.

 

[zrinkill]

Then you fail to truly understand the situation.

He gets that a lot.

 

[JohnsKey19]

Morris will be a hammer, a very effective one. Washington couldn't run the ball at all last season - it wasn't just him. Morris in a down year still outperformed the rookie they were dying to have take the reigns. I have no doubt he will flourish in this offense. He'll be the closest thing we've seen to Barber('07). It's such a perfect fit for him schematically. With the OL and QB in place, i'd be shocked if he's not back over that 4.5 ypc mark.

I like DMC but it seems the best mix is Elliot/Morris/Dunbar. DMC is clearly the better overall football player than Dunbar, but the coaches love Lance as that pass catching threat.

 

[jobberone]

Watching the guy run is even worse. He stinks. Any fool could get 1000 yards behind this line given over 200 carries regardless of how good or bad the pass game is. And one of the big reasons they could score that many points is because of clowns like McFadden not being able to break a long TD or punch it in. Do you think Zeke is only going to have 3 TD's if Romo goes down? Not a chance.

The Cowboys had to change their entire blocking scheme in order to accommodate the hapless McFadden. And oh by the way, McFadden averaged barely 4 yards per carry the previous 8 years of his career. Get over it, he stinks.

In 9 years McFadden has a total of 28 rushing TD's. That is horrible. The guy is NOT a play maker. He is middling at best.

Then your opinion has little value although I respect your right to express it.

And they didn't have to change the blocking scheme.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I dont see anything remarkable about 4.6 yards per carry

Emmitt Smith only did that 3 times in his career. DMC did it with crap at QB and no Dez.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

1) Well yes if a player stays healthy for 2 straight years. I'm not going to turn around and call them an injury risk. Just like how Tony wasn't an injury risk until he became one recently. You'd look like a fool if you said Romo isn't an injury risk when you look at his entire career. That isn't working something into an agenda that's common sense.

2) Not football related.

3) And he's going to get a ton of carries now?

4) Again, how big a workload do you think he's going to have?

While I generally believe that past events are the best indicator of future events, it just doesn't hold true with most injuries. Future outcomes are just so much noise.

There are some genetic indicators and particular injuries that do correlate well to outcomes but generally speaking not so much.

I used to be on your side and @theogt and I used to argue about it but if you take an honest look at the data there are not many reliable injury predictors.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

There will be times when EE will be the best matchup out there or provide the best versatility for the next play call. Other times you may matchup with the defense better with a scatback. You take what the defense gives you.

The data on RB and number of carries concerns me and I want to protect my investment to maximize it long term. EE is so dynamic that he is likely the best option down in and down out. He can be a scatback, flex out, run between the tackles, and in the red zone.

Bellcow is not sustainable.

 

[jobberone]

The data on RB and number of carries concerns me and I want to protect my investment to maximize it long term. EE is so dynamic that he is likely the best option down in and down out. He can be a scatback, flex out, run between the tackles, and in the red zone.

Bellcow is not sustainable.

I used the term Bellcow loosely as the number 1 back which IS better. I agree he's a guy you want on the field but as you say you cannot wear the guy out. Therein lies the snaps for the other RBs. I can see both Dunbar and EE on the field at the same time....if they stay healthy.