Scout’s Eye: Melton Impressive, Peterson Gets Best of Bryant Among Thoughts

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Agreed but Roy Williams used to give up the big play.. Church isn't doing that.

First downs are big plays. You can say oh its not a 60 yd td..but maybe Wilcox is actually covering his back to a degree. Plain n simple Church is mediocre. How many of us are tired of mediocrity at the safety position???????
 

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First downs are big plays. You can say oh its not a 60 yd td..but maybe Wilcox is actually covering his back to a degree. Plain n simple Church is mediocre. How many of us are tired of mediocrity at the safety position???????

I think he's slightly better than average but right around mediocre for sure.

He's not getting us beat and you can't have allstars everywhere. I'll take him and spend money elsewhere besides Safety.
 

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No problem with your opinions. However, NBA officials were caught cheating favoring one team over the other. I think it was the Lakers. What is proof that there ISN'T any favoritism with refs favoring one team over the other. Did you watch the Denver/San Diego game? The refs really didn't need to but they helped out Denver a lot especially with those illegal pick plays that Denver gets away with quite often.

Let's just say it's possible it exists to some extent upon occasion -- understand that I'm not saying it has never, ever happened, OK? Why would anyone EVER need proof that it doesn't happen? That's absurd. If it doesn't happen, proof that it hasn't happened isn't necessary at all. And no, I didn't see that game. Enough, already.
 

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I think he's slightly better than average but right around mediocre for sure.

He's not getting us beat and you can't have allstars everywhere. I'll take him and spend money elsewhere besides Safety.

Where? What other position will help more than replacing Church on defense? Sure a CB and of course we are gonna get DL, but a safety that can cover AND hit would be ideal. Idk the prospects for this next draft but..Its time we make an investment.
 

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I think he's slightly better than average but right around mediocre for sure.

He's not getting us beat and you can't have allstars everywhere. I'll take him and spend money elsewhere besides Safety.

This is how I feel about Church.

Tremendous tackler, however, as evidenced by his 2 interceptions and only 9 Passes defensed over his 5 year career, the only way he touches the ball in pass defense is if a QB throws it right at him. :)
 

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Where? What other position will help more than replacing Church on defense? Sure a CB and of course we are gonna get DL, but a safety that can cover AND hit would be ideal. Idk the prospects for this next draft but..Its time we make an investment.

Front 7 help. Especially impact D Line.. That is where you spend your money. Not safety.

You draft safeties and hope they turn out to be a top guy but don't give them big FA money.
 

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Melton is starting to look like he is regaining his legs and is becoming more or a factor.
 

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Let's just say it's possible it exists to some extent upon occasion -- understand that I'm not saying it has never, ever happened, OK? Why would anyone EVER need proof that it doesn't happen? That's absurd. If it doesn't happen, proof that it hasn't happened isn't necessary at all. And no, I didn't see that game. Enough, already.

Why would anyone EVER need proof that it doesn't happen? Because football is a billion dollar sport and one missed-call can mean the life and death of an organization. Just take a look at the "tuck" rule. You think the Raiders would be in the position they are now if it weren't for that? One blown call like that can take destroy an organization completely and turn up the fortunes of another team.

Its not absurd especially when there is no quality assurance requirements or even a checking system in which to make sure such things like this never happens. If there is no accountable for refs to make sure they do their job, I can guarantee you that they will find ways to game the system. Don't think for a second that some refs DON'T have their favorites or that they will be honest in their job. If there is no checking system or accountability that is ripe for cheating and exploiting the system as it is now.
 

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Front 7 help. Especially impact D Line.. That is where you spend your money. Not safety.

You draft safeties and hope they turn out to be a top guy but don't give them big FA money.

Money and draft picks are seperate. I didnt say I wanted big fa money in the position, I want a young Cowboy back there that can grow next to Wilcox.
 

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Melton is starting to look like he is regaining his legs and is becoming more or a factor.
If only some of the rest of them could get there. I've never seen a team that blitz and never get there more than the Cowboys.
 

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If only some of the rest of them could get there. I've never seen a team that blitz and never get there more than the Cowboys.

I saw some good plays and good pressure by the front including rookie D Lawrence. I think they will start showing signs of improvement as they move forward and if we can keep them healthy.
 

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Candidly, the Cowboys simply got exposed as an overly hyped team that couldn't live up to what was being advertised by the media. They played a team that came to their place and dominated them, taking full advantage of a backup QB that simply doesn't have what it takes to compete under considerable pressure.
Hopefully, the walking wounded will return and things might return to normal once again.
Overall, the team effort fell short of what they're capable of with a full contingent.
Take a few key guys out of our offensive lineup and we saw what we get.

Yes, but that's true with any team.

The level of play likely will decline with key injuries because the replacement just isn't as good as the starter, and the chemistry with the unit is destroyed, as well.

We now have 2 replacements on the OL, and the LB group is without their leader and has 2 others dinged up. Add a replacement quarterback to the mix, and it's not surprising that the 'Boys performance suffered. Remember, these units have a fairly fragile new-found cohesion which can easily deteriorate when removing just a few key components.

Arizona matched up well, given our altered roster, and the results should not have been shocking.
We all hoped Weeden would be smarter and more accurate, and that the other subs would step up, but this is a very young team, without the established veteran core that might lend more continuity.

Regarding play-calling, Weeden wasn't given more than the coaches thought he could handle, and that simple game plan was just too predictable.
 

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Yes, but that's true with any team.

The level of play likely will decline with key injuries because the replacement just isn't as good as the starter, and the chemistry with the unit is destroyed, as well.

We now have 2 replacements on the OL, and the LB group is without their leader and has 2 others dinged up. Add a replacement quarterback to the mix, and it's not surprising that the 'Boys performance suffered. Remember, these units have a fairly fragile new-found cohesion which can easily deteriorate when removing just a few key components.

Arizona matched up well, given our altered roster, and the results should not have been shocking.
We all hoped Weeden would be smarter and more accurate, and that the other subs would step up, but this is a very young team, without the established veteran core that might lend more continuity.

Regarding play-calling, Weeden wasn't given more than the coaches thought he could handle, and that simple game plan was just too predictable.

I agree I also think Weeden running the play coming in without the key adjustments to routs based on the alignment made it easier on the cards. Dallas pretty much ran the play that came into the huddle and instead of seeing Romo out there making the adjustments signaling to the WR and TE we pretty much ran the play as called.
 

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Agreed but Roy Williams used to give up the big play.. Church isn't doing that.

I don't like Church but you are correct. No deep balls, just conversions, etc. Church is too slow to maintain tight coverage in this league. Modern safeties are simply faster than he is capable. I think I remembered one catchable ball thrown by Weeden towards Dez all game and that was a 5 yard crossing pattern that he darted in there with zero touch. Dez should have been arguing with the refs (hands to the face every play?), he was getting PI all day on top of crap passes that weren't even in his vicinity. The frustration from the team that was displayed from Weeden's incompetence was ugly, "This is who you trot out here JG/JJ? We have no " " chance!"
 
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I agree I also think Weeden running the play coming in without the key adjustments to routs based on the alignment made it easier on the cards. Dallas pretty much ran the play that came into the huddle and instead of seeing Romo out there making the adjustments signaling to the WR and TE we pretty much ran the play as called.

Right.

That whole pre-snap routine that Romo has is not just annoying to us -- it screws up the opposing D as well, at least casting a bit of doubt regarding their alignment. I, for one, was not opposed to seeing Tony come back in last week, mostly due to his expertise; half-Romo may be better than a full Weeden.
If your QB is a competitor and the game is one the line, I think it's his to lose, rather than the inexperienced back--up.

Now, against the JAG's next week, I'm not sure I'd play him; the team may benefit by rallying around the sub (against a sub-par team), and Tony could use an extended rest, lasting until Nov. 23.
 

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Right.

That whole pre-snap routine that Romo has is not just annoying to us -- it screws up the opposing D as well, at least casting a bit of doubt regarding their alignment. I, for one, was not opposed to seeing Tony come back in last week, mostly due to his expertise; half-Romo may be better than a full Weeden.
If your QB is a competitor and the game is one the line, I think it's his to lose, rather than the inexperienced back--up.

Now, against the JAG's next week, I'm not sure I'd play him; the team may benefit by rallying around the sub (against a sub-par team), and Tony could use an extended rest, lasting until Nov. 23.

My view on playing him or not has not changed, if he has the mobility he needs and can make the throws and feels he is good to go he plays. If he can't then he should not play. As for Jax they played Cinn tough yesterday so I'm not going to underestimate a team Dallas is facing not even the Jags.
 

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My view on playing him or not has not changed, if he has the mobility he needs and can make the throws and feels he is good to go he plays. If he can't then he should not play. As for Jax they played Cinn tough yesterday so I'm not going to underestimate a team Dallas is facing not even the Jags.

Any given Sunday........

The Cowboy's balance including coaching is fragile enough to lose.
 

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Why would anyone EVER need proof that it doesn't happen? Because football is a billion dollar sport and one missed-call can mean the life and death of an organization. Just take a look at the "tuck" rule. You think the Raiders would be in the position they are now if it weren't for that? One blown call like that can take destroy an organization completely and turn up the fortunes of another team.

Its not absurd especially when there is no quality assurance requirements or even a checking system in which to make sure such things like this never happens. If there is no accountable for refs to make sure they do their job, I can guarantee you that they will find ways to game the system. Don't think for a second that some refs DON'T have their favorites or that they will be honest in their job. If there is no checking system or accountability that is ripe for cheating and exploiting the system as it is now.

There actually is a quality assurance program in place, mandated by the owners.

Every week, each team compiles a tape of calls that they think were blown, and that and a narrative are sent to the league office.
The director of officiating goes over all such complaints, and issues a response to each team. In some cases, an official is demoted or removed.

Big brother is always watching.
 

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They probably would have called Peterson for PI more often if Romo was in the game. Weeden's passes sucked so much that the refs were probably too busy laughing to even pay attention to what Peterson was doing to Dez.
 
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