Scouts on Drake Maye

TheMarathonContinues

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If they're comparing him to Cutler in the physical aspect, that is a compliment. Cutler had one of the best arms the NFL has ever seen. Tough, durable, just extremely gifted. Phsyically.

It was funny w/ Cutler. He would look so good at times, but then just one little thing happened, and he imploded and couldn't play. I honestly believe he has mental issues.
Cutler had physical traits but as he proved physical traits aren’t enough. Romo didn’t have nearly the cannon Cutler did but he was a much smarter football player which allowed him to be a superior player. That goes a long way big like I said I wouldn’t put that on Maye it’s unfair to say that about him because I don’t think he’s shown to not have heart for the game.
 

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Yes they did. I don't just spew, dude. I saw it.

However, many scouts got their panties all wadded for him, even though his measurables absolutely did not show it. Still don't understand the hoopla over him, never did. I was POed when we traded up for him.

Nope, didn't see that on either one. Last one declared generational was Luck, and he definitely turned out to be just that, but was on a sorry team that ended w/ his early demise as an NFL player.

Oh, and now Barbie. Got screwed his rook year w/ the Urban Meyer debacle, but really started coming on last year(his 2nd). Yet to be seen.

Parsons was called a generational talent by many scouts, but not in a consensus manner. I was beyond psyched when he fell to us. Couldn't believe it. And then I saw many who didn't like it. And you could not talk to them and explain to them how and why it was an exceptional pick!!!!!!!
You saw scouting reports that said Mo was a 3rd talent?
 

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Cutler had physical traits but as he proved physical traits aren’t enough. Romo didn’t have nearly the cannon Cutler did but he was a much smarter football player which allowed him to be a superior player. That goes a long way big like I said I wouldn’t put that on Maye it’s unfair to say that about him because I don’t think he’s shown to not have heart for the game.
Not smarter, just much better under pressure, and able to come back after mistakes and such.

If Maye is being compared to Cutler at this point, it's most likely all about arm strength, toughness(not mental), and maybe durability. I don't think they're calling him a headcase.
 

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You saw scouting reports that said Mo was a 3rd talent?
Several. I read as much as I can about all our highly drafted players. They pegged him to a T. He played exactly as they said, he'd look great at times, but didn't have dominant physical traits which would get him beat at times, and didn't like to throw himself into tackles.
 

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It has to be the physical tools. I won’t put that on Maye because I don’t think anyone saw Cutler being the moron he became in the NFL. I think that’s something you find out when guys hit the pros.
Cutler DID have a rep at Vandy.
Thats why a freak passer like him didnt go number 1

plus, I know its easier now to pile up stats but
Cutler 21TD, 9 int, 3073….senior year
Maye 38TD, 7 int, 4321….redshirt freshman

having said that, calling anyone generational is silly
 
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Not smarter, just much better under pressure, and able to come back after mistakes and such.

If Maye is being compared to Cutler at this point, it's most likely all about arm strength, toughness(not mental), and maybe durability. I don't think they're calling him a headcase.
When I say smarter I mean for instance Romo knew he had to work harder than everyone else. He knew he had to study film harder than everyone else. Cutler lacked that awareness. Romo was flawed but smart.
I dont think anyone is doubting Maye’s mental makeup
that why they skipped over Cutler
No one knew of Cutlers makeup in college…..
 

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Cutler DID have a rep at Vandy.
Thats why a freak passer like him didnt go number 1

plus, I know its easier now to pile up stats but
Cutler 21TD, 9 int, 3073….senior year
Maye 38TD, 7 int, 4321….redshirt freshman

having said that, calling anyone generational is silly
This is true but Cutler still went early….believe he was top 12 or 10.
 

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I'd like to know where you saw that. Most had him as the best defensive talent in that draft.
That was 11 years ago, so I don't remember any more.

I do know our resident LSU fan, Boutte, was POed when we took him. He didn't like him at all. I read and read and read up on him, and just couldn't find anything in his scouting reports that sounded like the best defender in the draft. It just didn't make sense, none at all. It's like, the scouts had a meeting and got drunk and decided MO was awesome.

Did you know that when they list the best in the draft at each different skillset, Mo was not tops in any of them. All they could do was splatter something about him being a playmaker since he had 6 picks his last year in college.

His grade was 8.2, which is good but not phenomenal. Parsons grade was 8.4, and that's with missing his last year w/ the Covid mess.
 

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He makes this claim and he’s never proven it. Mo was regarded as top 10 pick and I remember most mocks had him going to the Buccaneers….
You use mocks as a grading tool? That's good stuff, man!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey, I'm old, prolly dreamt it!!!!!
 

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You use mocks as a grading tool? That's good stuff, man!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey, I'm old, prolly dreamt it!!!!!
I don’t honestly. Mocks are never a good gauge of talent when it comes to later guys. But top 10? Mock drafts are usually on the money.
 

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I don’t honestly. Mocks are never a good gauge of talent when it comes to later guys. But top 10? Mock drafts are usually on the money.
Yeah, but Mocks are more about where a player will go, it often has little to do w/ talent level. Especially QBs!!!!!!!!
 

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In mocks, sure.

At the time, some had Dre Kirkpatrick rated higher.

Yes, most rated him high. Not disputing that. However, it was not everyone.
That may be true but Mo was a consensus top 10 pick. He was a great college player and truthfully injuries is what got him in the NFL. Not talent.
 

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Man, you must be the best scout in the history of football. You have never been wrong.
Cute. Not at all what this conversation was about.

Wrong a lot. Taylor Mays and Drew Hensen were huges misses by me.

I just think some QB's, more than any other position, are clearcut prospects. They just stand out on the field.
 

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Cute. Not at all what this conversation was about.

Wrong a lot. Taylor Mays and Drew Hensen were huges misses by me.

I just think some QB's, more than any other position, are clearcut prospects. They just stand out on the field.
From what they're saying, Mayes is a special talent.
 
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