SD: Here's what QB Paxton Lynch showed the Cowboys in a private pre-NFL draft workout

[Nova]

Always liked the combo of a big arm, strong OL and running game.

I love that idea for the future... With a WR that can stretch the field... And a playbook that doesn't just run him into the teeth of a double team.

 

[thechosen1n2]

I think he's more commonly listed at 6'5" but I realize these measurements are all over the place. Peyton is also alternately listed as 6'5" and 6'6".

I'm not the biggest Cam fan, I think he will turn back into a pumpkin as soon as his supporting cast drops off even a bit. But he definitely deserved the MVP last year.

My overreaching point on robo qbs is that if you look at the "elite" QBs in the league, they are not super athletes who "check off all the boxes". They are usually smallish, with middling tools who get by with guile and skill. They may have one "elite" trait (Brees accuracy, Rodgers arm, Romo release, Wilson speed) but be underwhelming in other areas. Brady and Peyton have excellent size but were plodding athletes with average arms. Yet GMs continue to draft freakish robo qbs who "check off all the boxes". These guys keep going bust over and over. Lynch has bust stamped on his forehead.

He had no receivers (mediocre at best). His defense was good, but he carried that offense.

 

[WoodysGirl]

NFL Philosophy ‏@NFLosophy 6m6 minutes ago
I'm finally getting into the details of Paxton Lynch tonight. A couple thoughts coming...
Lynch throws a ton of screens - RB, bubble, tunnel... - which basically makes his stat sheet irrelevant unless you exclude all those plays.
Lynch screams Denver and Gary Kubiak to me. He's further along mentally in the game than Wentz and throws just as well.
With that said, Lynch relies heavily on his presnap reads and can get confused easily at the line of scrimmage. But solid progression reader
Lynch is inconsistent in his ball placement. Sometimes he looks like he's throwing laser guided missiles. Other times, far off the mark.
Everyone knows Lynch is big, athletic for size, strong arm, etc. The physical traits are there. Though I feel he needs work in the pocket.

 

[lostar2009]

I do too I don't see him getting past the 15th pick

The kid is a development qb. I wouldnt touch him until the 2 ND round.

 

[calvin]

The kid is a development qb. I wouldnt touch him until the 2 ND round.

Thing is, as others have said, he's not going to be there in the 2nd round. In a league where there is a serious shortage of quality QB's there is no way that a guy with Lynch's tools gets passed by everyone. Do you really think Denver passes on Lynch when they have Mark Sanchez as their QB of the future? No way Denver passes on Lynch. Other possible teams in the back half of the 1st include. NYJ @20, KC and Ari.

 

[StarBoyz83]

NFL Philosophy ‏@NFLosophy 6m6 minutes ago
I'm finally getting into the details of Paxton Lynch tonight. A couple thoughts coming...
Lynch throws a ton of screens - RB, bubble, tunnel... - which basically makes his stat sheet irrelevant unless you exclude all those plays.
Lynch screams Denver and Gary Kubiak to me. He's further along mentally in the game than Wentz and throws just as well.
With that said, Lynch relies heavily on his presnap reads and can get confused easily at the line of scrimmage. But solid progression reader
Lynch is inconsistent in his ball placement. Sometimes he looks like he's throwing laser guided missiles. Other times, far off the mark.
Everyone knows Lynch is big, athletic for size, strong arm, etc. The physical traits are there. Though I feel he needs work in the pocket.

Lol Dallas sucks at running and defending screens.

 

[Kaiser]

There's a sweet spot at the back of the first where any QB starved team knows it can hop up and get whatever numbered QB slips past the early 20s at a relative discount. If they wait, the rest of the league gets an overnight to consider trading up. Somebody always makes the jump.

If we want Lynch, we're going to have to jump back up to the early 20s. Or move down form 4 to get into that neighborhood that way.

I agree, but Dallas has been pretty disciplined lately in the draft. Last year they clearly needed a RB but resisted the urge to trade up, it seems like they are a lot more focused ( = less Jerry ADHD) since Will McClay came in.

 

[Hoofbite]

Yep like baseball pitchers. Still taking hits won't be pretty

The guy is 6'6'' and 225. Plenty big enough to take any hit other QBs are taking.

 

[LocimusPrime]

The guy is 6'6'' and 225. Plenty big enough to take any hit other QBs are taking.

6'2 225 is stockier/ thicker than 6'6 225. Kinda like 6'0 240 much more built to take hits than 7'0 and 240. But I see what your saying, he just looks Frailish esp in the arms. Dirk is around 240-250 and I bet he couldn't last very long taking hits from Suggs

Rg3 is 6'2 223 and he looks Frailish as well and he's 4" shorter. Flacco is 6'6 245 so he's like 20lbs heavier. Well, he should put some good weight w good nfl cooking

 

[Irvin88_4life]

I like him but still think he could drop to us at 34. Carr and Bridgewater were slotted as mid first round two years ago and both were taken at the top of the second.

Teddy B was taken in the first round but I get what your saying. Bridgewater was my highest rated QB that year and couldn't believe he fell to the bottom of the first

 

[darthseinfeld]

Teddy B was taken in the first round but I get what your saying. Bridgewater was my highest rated QB that year and couldn't believe he fell to the bottom of the first

I kinda can, although I thought of him as a top 10 pick. Hand size, small frame at the time ( dont know what he has put on since, but his frame was a concern for some) and good not great physical tools.

Alot of people overlooked that he was one of the most cerebral QBs to come out in quite some time. That should have pushed him into the top, but often times evaluators put too much into physical tools

 

[noshame]

There's lots of good players later in this draft the we have lots of pics. we'll take one of these QBs at 4 and start counting the days to a Superbowl

 

[Gaede]

NFL Philosophy ‏@NFLosophy 6m6 minutes ago
I'm finally getting into the details of Paxton Lynch tonight. A couple thoughts coming...
Lynch throws a ton of screens - RB, bubble, tunnel... - which basically makes his stat sheet irrelevant unless you exclude all those plays.
Lynch screams Denver and Gary Kubiak to me. He's further along mentally in the game than Wentz and throws just as well.
With that said, Lynch relies heavily on his presnap reads and can get confused easily at the line of scrimmage. But solid progression reader
Lynch is inconsistent in his ball placement. Sometimes he looks like he's throwing laser guided missiles. Other times, far off the mark.
Everyone knows Lynch is big, athletic for size, strong arm, etc. The physical traits are there. Though I feel he needs work in the pocket.

His stats are padded, but put on most of his games and there's very few actually bad throws. Certainly less than Wentz.

As far as throwing goes, Lynch has it all. Touch, fast release, velocity, accuracy, mobility, improvisational skills. Yes, he needs work with footwork. But the skills are definitely there. As are the intangibles.

There's no reason to think he wouldn't be able to learn these things, especially under Romo-who was as raw as possible coming into the league. I actually a see a lot of Romo in Lynch

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

There's lots of good players later in this draft the we have lots of pics. we'll take one of these QBs at 4 and start counting the days to a Superbowl

Some fans here already think we are SB contenders and just need a few draft picks to work out. LOL.

 

[dantheman41]

I have a hard time with Lynch, love some of his traits. But the guy never stands in the pocket and makes a throw. Always has to move, rollout, etc... Sure that is part scheme, but hard to evaluate him. Those type of QB's that aren't pure pocket passers rarely succeed in NFL

 

[noshame]

Some fans here already think we are SB contenders and just need a few draft picks to work out. LOL.

a lot of days...

 

[4lifecowboy]

I have a hard time with Lynch, love some of his traits. But the guy never stands in the pocket and makes a throw. Always has to move, rollout, etc... Sure that is part scheme, but hard to evaluate him. Those type of QB's that aren't pure pocket passers rarely succeed in NFL

Like Newton, Wilson and Rodgers?

 

[Stash]

I have no idea what the draft board is but I can see Wentz being taken before our pick and Goff rated too low to take at 4 (again, the Dallas draft board hasn't been built yet).

But if you have Lynch as a first rounder on your board and think he may drop, or think Dak Prescott is a second rounder and can trade up in the late second, either of those options are better than forcing a pick at 4 that is overdrafting Goff. It does seem like there are enough QB prospects in the late first to early 3rd that Dallas can get a good player.

That sounds like a great recipe for disaster.

 

[Stash]

I have a hard time with Lynch, love some of his traits. But the guy never stands in the pocket and makes a throw. Always has to move, rollout, etc... Sure that is part scheme, but hard to evaluate him. Those type of QB's that aren't pure pocket passers rarely succeed in NFL

Add to that a staff I have no faith in identifying, developing, or coaching up quarterbacks and I see a recipe for disaster. It's a big factor in why I prefer Goff, who I think is the closest to a finished product with the best college coaching to this point.

 

[noshame]

Some fans here already think we are SB contenders and just need a few draft picks to work out. LOL.

I hate to say it, but a change coordinators may b the biggest need. I don't think either one helped the team last year. In fact I could pin a couple losses on each