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  1. Reality

    Reality Admin

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    Dallas Cowboys: Stephen Jones is ruthless and the real villain

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    The Dallas Cowboys did not sign Dak Prescott to a long-term contract because of Stephen Jones' stubbornness. As expected with the Dallas Cowboys, they made...

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  2. morat1959

    morat1959 Well-Known Member

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    This will go down as one of the few bright spots during his tenure. This has MM written all over it. A true football mind can see Dak for what he is ...average!
     
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  3. Seven

    Seven Messenger to the football Gods

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    :popcorn:
     
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  4. csirl

    csirl Well-Known Member

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    PR rubbish from Daks agency.
     
  5. Whyjerry

    Whyjerry Well-Known Member

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    Anyone that has been paying attention will know Stephen will be worse than Jerry. He has all of Jerry’s arrogance without any of his charm. Plus he is cheap.
     
  6. windward

    windward NFL Historian

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    Yawn. Fans were mad about Jerry being too reckless. Fans are mad about Stephen being too cautious.

    All it boils down to is that fans won’t be happy until there is another Super Bowl title. At least until the first quarter of the next game.
     
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  7. stasheroo

    stasheroo Well-Known Member

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    I have no doubt whatsoever that Stephen has bungled the Dak negotiations. Not that it is solely his fault, but he's certainly a big reason in getting us to this point.

    If anyone has doubts, just look at how the last three big-money deals were handled with Cooper, Elliott, and Lawrence:
    1. Cooper was paid at the top of the receiver market because the team had no choice at that point after investing a 1st round pick in the guy without an extension worked out.
    2. Elliott was overpaid - and two years before he was due. Setting the top of the market for the running back position, that few, if any successful teams pay.
    3. Lawrence was tagged when defensive end contracts were reasonable and they exploded in the meantime with the Mack and Donald deals, and then Lawrence got his deal, for much more money than if they had just done it in the first place!
    On any other team, the contract negotiator would have lost his job, but when your last name is Jones and you have a job for life, you can bungle things as badly as possible, with zero consequences.
     
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  8. John813

    John813 Well-Known Member

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    Stephen you should have thought about that before paying Pro Bowl running back Ezekiel Elliott to a massive $90 million- six year contract extension last season.

    Let’s be mindful that Zeke had two years remaining on his contract.

    Although Zeke is one of the best running backs in the league, how do you give Zeke his money when he plays one of the most replaceable positions in football?


    Ok.

    It’s true Stephen offered Murray a low contract because they fed Murray twice as many carries as he had since he joined the league, but Murray was worth it and still had some gas in the tank at the age of 27. Stephen didn’t think he was worth his asking price and let him walk.

    So, which is it?

    And, by extending Zeke early, which they didn't care for but took advantage of, his cap hits would be not near 15mil a year until the very end when if his play dips he's an easy cut. People need to stop looking at total money cause very rarely will any player actually get all their salary from extensions.

    Dallas signed him cause they found a way to make his contract flexible early and often-s long as he plays well. They also signed Smith to a team friendly team and struck early gold getting Collins locked up.

    Blame goes on both sides, but there is no villain and victim among both sides.
     
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  9. Jake

    Jake Curmudgeon

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    Yeah, but it's hard to argue with the Cowboys on-field success during Stephen's tenure. :muttley:

    It's almost as if he's never worked for an NFL team that wasn't owned by his father, or something.
     
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  10. BrAinPaiNt

    BrAinPaiNt Backwoods Sexy Admin

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    His villain name is....Evil Jowls.
     
  11. Zekeats

    Zekeats theranchsucks

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    Good. The only thing he shoulda gotten done sooner was firing Garrett 5 yrs ago
     
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  12. rags747

    rags747 Well-Known Member

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    I’m thinking that writer still lives in his parents basement, pretty embarrassing. So much outrage at Ruthless Stephen Jones. This is what our colleges are turning out boys and girls, real soy boys.
     
  13. ninja

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    Murray was not worth what the Eagles paid.
    Byron Jones was not worth what the Dolphins paid.
    Dak is not worth more than $30M/year in my opinion.

    Stephen was right on Murray. We will soon learn on Jones and Dak if there is a season.
     
  14. quickccc

    quickccc Well-Known Member

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    Surprisingly what many in Cowboys Nation still do not realize is that the face and direction of the Cowboys organization
    is changing and its' really a new sheriff is in town.
    In terms of how Team (and NFL league) is being marketed, advertising, plans and events, invested and building structures,
    Television negotiations and revue is concern, Jerry is still da the leading man, ..there has never been a bigger marketeer, contributor
    or business innovator than Jerry in the history of the NFL, imo.

    In terms of how the cowboys nowadays is being structured in direction of coaching,..player personnel, trades, free agency, draft, cap structure
    Stephen is now leading the charge. ,, not Jerry.
    Oh don't get me wrong, Jerry is still involved, but all points to Jerry surprisingly allowing his son to lead the direction at this point,..vs the days where Jerry was taking us.
     
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  15. stasheroo

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    How about Lawrence and Elliott?
     
  16. Clove

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    I don't mind ruthlessness or hard-nosed negotiations, but it's the lack of intellectual moves I'm concerned with. If you're going to be tough, at least be smart.
     
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  17. stasheroo

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    I agree.

    I'm just not sure that I like everywhere that the son is 'leading' us.

    Some things I like, as in not growing too attached to people not earning their money. Jerry would often be overly loyal where Stephen appears less so.

    But in terms of negotiating some of these contracts? He looks just as bad as Jerry did on some of 'em.

    It's a mixed bag for me.
     
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  18. starfan1

    starfan1 Well-Known Member

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    Too bad he didn’t do the same with zeke and DLaw
     
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  19. Bullflop

    Bullflop Well-Known Member

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    I really hope the Cowboys FO realizes that it's up to them to make their relations with their QBs is one that listens and understands just what it takes to negotiate in good faith. Of course, the same holds true for the players.

    I don't know, firsthand, who's to blame for their failure, but as a fan, I'd like nothing better than to see a deal being made that offers a likelihood for having a successful team. Too much to ask? Certainly not. I think Jerry, Stephen and Todd France all need to get a handle on sound negotiating, in general.

    The hardball approach isn't one that, obviously, has appealed to either side. That's perfectly clear by now. More willingness to compromise would likely be advisable in the future, by the looks of things.
     
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  20. Chocolate Lab

    Chocolate Lab Run-loving Dino

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    He's not perfect, but he's also probably the only reason the Redheaded Boat Anchor isn't still here.

    Let's give his personnel a chance with a real coach -- who he probably had the biggest hand in hiring -- before we judge him too much.
     

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