Season comes down to Dak

[Gangsta Spanksta]

All this winning is screwing up our draft position. LOL

Ah Jerrah was going to do the wrong pick anyway

 

[CowboyRoy]

Dak is not Mahomes or Brady but there have been plenty of average or below average quarterbacks lead a team to the big dance, Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Jeff Hostetler, even Joe Namath in the big picture wasn't considered great and there are 1/2 dozen others who weren't as good as Dak or Romo for that matter numbers wise. This team has all the ingredients to make a serious run if we play to our strengths and do not make mistakes/turnovers, Jerry was right to call out Dak, he has 9 INt's in 8 games this year, he only had 10 in 16 games in 2021, we need Dak to not force the ball, play smarter take a loss or run for 4 yards and slide but don't force the ball into coverage, you don't find that open guy throw it away. Our offensive strength this year is our running game by far, control the line of scrimmage the pass will be there at some point, we seem to be doing better on the penalty's, we have a top 3 defense and a very good special teams' unit, we have play makers everywhere you look and we have a top 6 or 7 QB "IMO" who just needs to manage the game and not make mistakes.

Nothing like having a QB that can drive the team down the field in near perfect drive to win the game like Dak did eh? Even after your defense played horrible most of the game and your RT couldnt block anyone after halftime.

 

[CowboyRoy]

That's a good analysis but let's be honest.

There will be no managing the game against Philly or KC or Buffalo down the road. You will flat-out have to keep up because nobody is shutting those teams down and then to come full circle you are exactly right. It will come down to Dak and you have to be honest with yourself, can we win a shootout with Dak?

Or the defense can show up.

Do you mean can we win with Dak and the #1 scoring offense in the NFL?

 

[Cowboys22]

Didn’t read one one of any post in this thread. Every season for every team comes down to there QB. I thought everyone knew this back in the 80’s.

 

[kskboys]

That's a good analysis but let's be honest.

There will be no managing the game against Philly or KC or Buffalo down the road. You will flat-out have to keep up because nobody is shutting those teams down and then to come full circle you are exactly right. It will come down to Dak and you have to be honest with yourself, can we win a shootout with Dak?

That question is irrelevant as long as we can't stop the run.

 

[kskboys]

If you think most of those guys are average your are high. Eli will be in the hall of fame most likely for gods sake.

Well good, because I don't think, I know.

 

[RonnieT24]

Eli was the epitome of average the year he road his DLs coat tails to the Super Bowl.

Eli made a few clutch throws along the way too.. but I think people grossly underestimate the value of knowing you can just punt the ball and the defense will give it right back to you in a couple minutes and how that influences the way the QB can play. As I have pointed out many times.. Brady had a top 5 defense like 15 of his 20 years in New England.. including #1 5 or 6 times. I think the worst defense he "carried" to the Super Bowl was like #4. Nobody shoot me if it was slightly higher as I am too lazy to look it up right at the moment. Flacco had an amazing playoff run the year he won it.. backed by a great defense.. Peyton Manning? Dude MIGHT have been a top 20 QB the year they won it in Denver. MAYBE.. That defense absolutely carried him. This amazing defense we have this year is new territory for Dak and frankly I don't think he nor Moore quite knows how to handle it. For most of the last 4 years if this team wasn't scoring 30 it wasn't winning. They need to figure it out before the playoffs get here.

 

[kskboys]

Eli made a few clutch throws along the way too.. but I think people grossly underestimate the value of knowing you can just punt the ball and the defense will give it right back to you in a couple minutes and how that influences the way the QB can play. As I have pointed out many times.. Brady had a top 5 defense like 15 of his 20 years in New England.. including #1 5 or 6 times. I think the worst defense he "carried" to the Super Bowl was like #4. Nobody shoot me if it was slightly higher as I am too lazy to look it up right at the moment. Flacco had an amazing playoff run the year he won it.. backed by a great defense.. Peyton Manning? Dude MIGHT have been a top 20 QB the year they won it in Denver. MAYBE.. That defense absolutely carried him. This amazing defense we have this year is new territory for Dak and frankly I don't think he nor Moore quite knows how to handle it. For most of the last 4 years if this team wasn't scoring 30 it wasn't winning. They need to figure it out before the playoffs get here.

Completely changes the way a QB plays. In addition to making it much much easier.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Dak is not Mahomes or Brady but there have been plenty of average or below average quarterbacks lead a team to the big dance, Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Jeff Hostetler, even Joe Namath in the big picture wasn't considered great and there are 1/2 dozen others who weren't as good as Dak or Romo for that matter numbers wise. This team has all the ingredients to make a serious run if we play to our strengths and do not make mistakes/turnovers, Jerry was right to call out Dak, he has 9 INt's in 8 games this year, he only had 10 in 16 games in 2021, we need Dak to not force the ball, play smarter take a loss or run for 4 yards and slide but don't force the ball into coverage, you don't find that open guy throw it away. Our offensive strength this year is our running game by far, control the line of scrimmage the pass will be there at some point, we seem to be doing better on the penalty's, we have a top 3 defense and a very good special teams' unit, we have play makers everywhere you look and we have a top 6 or 7 QB "IMO" who just needs to manage the game and not make mistakes.

DAK IS READY!!!

 

[Bagman]

If you think a guy who will probably go to the hall of fame, was 2 and 0 in Super Bowls, and threw for 6/1 and 9/1 TD/Int in both super bowl runs, and who could play under pressure is average, then i would suggest you don't know what the word average means. It's laughable.

I agree Eli was very good in those playoff runs. He also had Hall of Fame defenses those 2 years. They carried those Giants teams. I may be crazy but I believe Eli also has ZERO playoff wins in 13 of his 15 seasons in the NFL. All his wins in his playoff career came in 2 yrs.

 

[RonnieT24]

Eli in the Postseason was Clutch.

Maybe for two postseasons.. but overall? Not so much. He was one and one in 4 of his 6 trips to the playoffs. We all know what happened in the other two. But Eli had four playoff games in which he failed to reach 200 passing yards. His career completion rate in the playoffs was 60.5% and his second Super Bowl run should have ended in San Francisco if Kyle Williams could just field a punt.

Check this out.. Dak's career completion percentage is 60.9%.. both he and Eli have a 2-1 TD to INT ratio.. Dak has a higher yards per attempt 7.2 to 6.9 and an overall higher passer rating 87.9 to 87.4. Oh and Dak has yet to pass for under 226 yards in a playoff game.

Long story short.. Dak has performed slightly better overall in the playoffs than Eli.. but has a losing record because he hasn't gone to war with a superior defense in the playoffs yet. Hopefully that changes this year.

 

[kskboys]

Maybe for two postseasons.. but overall? Not so much. He was one and one in 4 of his 6 trips to the playoffs. We all know what happened in the other two. But Eli had four playoff games in which he failed to reach 200 passing yards. His career completion rate in the playoffs was 60.5% and his second Super Bowl run should have ended in San Francisco if Kyle Williams could just field a punt.

Check this out.. Dak's career completion percentage is 60.9%.. both he and Eli have a 2-1 TD to INT ratio.. Dak has a higher yards per attempt 7.2 to 6.9 and an overall higher passer rating 87.9 to 87.4. Oh and Dak has yet to pass for under 226 yards in a playoff game.

Long story short.. Dak has performed slightly better overall in the playoffs than Eli.. but has a losing record because he hasn't gone to war with a superior defense in the playoffs yet. Hopefully that changes this year.

He was terrible vs SF on one super bowl run, but the D and Kyle Williams bailed him out repeatedly.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I know exactly what giving up easily is. It’s a character flaw. Many here have it.

Homerism is a mental disorder.

 

[GoldenR]

Eli and Dak are average QB's. Let's get off that non-sense. Eli was 10 or 11 years ago, COMPLETELY different time. This is now a throwing NFL league in the playoffs; Rams, Chiefs, Bills, Brady's Patriots,( for years), even Nick F. threw for 400 yards while Brady threw for 500 that game. Our playoff run is about Dak throwing the pigskin, not Zeke and Pollard! so, if you guys believe Mr. Checkdown is gonna take us to 3 road wins that is your right to believe.

 

[SlammedZero]

I'm more worried about our defense honestly. Our run defense, as you all know has been suspect, and now add to that all the injuries in the secondary. Not going to matter what Dak can do if we can't stop a run or defend some deep passes.

If we can slow a playoff team down, I think Dak can manage to do enough to win a game, especially if we can get Zeke/Pollard running.

 

[RonnieT24]

I guess the biggest surprise is that people are acting as if the fact that the QB is one of the keys to a team's success in the playoffs is some revelation. In other news, the ocean is big and water is wet.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Disagree. The last few playoff games we have been trounced in, were due to us not stopping the run. You stop the run, or at least mitigate it and the game changes completely. You must have forgotten.

+1 .......playoffs always come down to defense IMO. What won the 49er's couple of playoff games last season, what about the Ram's Super Bowl win or the Bucs' two years ago?

 

[Big D]

We couldn’t last year against the 49ers. Hope it’s different this year.

We couldn't or didn't?

16 combined rushes for #21 and #20.
43 passing attempts.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Eli made a few clutch throws along the way too.. but I think people grossly underestimate the value of knowing you can just punt the ball and the defense will give it right back to you in a couple minutes and how that influences the way the QB can play. As I have pointed out many times.. Brady had a top 5 defense like 15 of his 20 years in New England.. including #1 5 or 6 times. I think the worst defense he "carried" to the Super Bowl was like #4. Nobody shoot me if it was slightly higher as I am too lazy to look it up right at the moment. Flacco had an amazing playoff run the year he won it.. backed by a great defense.. Peyton Manning? Dude MIGHT have been a top 20 QB the year they won it in Denver. MAYBE.. That defense absolutely carried him. This amazing defense we have this year is new territory for Dak and frankly I don't think he nor Moore quite knows how to handle it. For most of the last 4 years if this team wasn't scoring 30 it wasn't winning. They need to figure it out before the playoffs get here.

Louder my dude.........and what won it for Brady as Buc a couple of years ago

 

[Rockport]

Homerism is a mental disorder.

No it’s being a glass half full type person vs being a half glass empty person like you. Now tell me, which is the better attitude?