Seriously, if Jimmy came back

LittleBoyBlue

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I am curious.

Do you think he could set this ship in the right direction?

Please don't bother posting:

A.) that the game had changed and passed him by. He is smarter than Parcells in that respect. He would adapt where Bill refused to.

B.) that he failed in Miami.

C.) Jerry would never let it happen.

The question is, could he come in here, have that press conference stating how things are going to change and anything less than winning is unacceptable and get us going in right direction again (again, as in again since he left and again, as in his second stint as leader of boys).
 

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I think Jimmy is a fine coach, I would doubt he would have the same success as he did in Dallas but I think he could put together a very good staff and motivate players. Jimmy was never an X's and O's coach but he knew what buttons to push on each player to get the most out of them.
 
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I don't think so.

Coming straight out of Miami, he knew the college kids graduating and going to the NFL like the back of his hand. That knowledge helped him greatly in future drafts, especially after the Herschel Walker trade.

He no longer has that insight going for him.

I also don't think he has the drive to succeed he once did. He's pretty happy what he's doing now.
 

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I don't think so.

Coming straight out of Miami, he knew the college kids graduating and going to the NFL like the back of his hand. That knowledge helped him greatly in future drafts, especially after the Herschel Walker trade.

He no longer has that insight going for him.

I also don't think he has the drive to succeed he once did. He's pretty happy what he's doing now.

This is also what helped Pete Carroll. Tremendously.
 

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I am curious.

Do you think he could set this ship in the right direction?

Please don't bother posting:

A.) that the game had changed and passed him by. He is smarter than Parcells in that respect. He would adapt where Bill refused to.

B.) that he failed in Miami.

C.) Jerry would never let it happen.

The question is, could he come in here, have that press conference stating how things are going to change and anything less than winning is unacceptable and get us going in right direction again (again, as in again since he left and again, as in his second stint as leader of boys).

Sure, if it's the mythical Jimmy Johnson you have created with all of your restrictions, then yes of course he could turn it around. As long as he got a slew of #1 draft picks that turned into Hall of Famers and we could withstand another 1-15 season.
 

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Never mind that Jerry wouldn't do it. Jimmy wouldn't. He's built up a great life. He's rich. He's got a great job as a football analyst, one that's not anywhere near as stressful as that of a football head coach.

That said, if somehow he did come back, it would only be under the condition that he had full control over everything football related. He picks the drafts. He picks the assistant coaches. He chooses the system. Under those conditions, the team would indeed do better. There's no way to tell how much better. He would not have a bonanza Herschel Walker trade to stack draft picks with. I think under Johnson a second time around it takes about 3 years to get back to the playoffs. A championship? Maybe. Hard to say.
 

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I think Jimmy is a fine coach, I would doubt he would have the same success as he did in Dallas but I think he could put together a very good staff and motivate players. Jimmy was never an X's and O's coach but he knew what buttons to push on each player to get the most out of them.

I will take that. It's a great start.


I don't think so.

Coming straight out of Miami, he knew the college kids graduating and going to the NFL like the back of his hand. That knowledge helped him greatly in future drafts, especially after the Herschel Walker trade.

He no longer has that insight going for him.

I also don't think he has the drive to succeed he once did. He's pretty happy what he's doing now.

Is it not possible that the resources like. Internet, multiple communication sources, Jerry's deep pockets could help jimmy get caught up in that regard? In it's own way.



I don't know man guys with that drive and raw determination may be able to put it on a shelf and give the illusion of "this is me now" but that drive comes right back with the right "opportunity"
 

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I think Jimmy mentally checked out of that side of football for good. He is on easy street now enjoying his golden years with no reason to come back for that kind of scrutiny and punishment.

If he came back(with the above exclusions), he could probably be better than our previous few coaches but I don't think enough to get back to what he was. Different eras, salary cap, motivation, current structure, etc, etc. There are a lot more obstacles to overcome now then 20 years ago.
 

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Jimmy strikes me as being able to do whatever he set his mind, body and soul to do. Would I take him over this group of castaways? In less than half a damn NY second.
 

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Its odd that people think that Jimmy wasn't an X & O coach. He was, he invented the Miami 4-3 which is the early version of the Tampa 2. He just wasn't a micro manager and had good assistant coaches who really could implement (and refine) his own style.

I think he's be fine on a second time around but like many noted, he wouldn't have the fresh eyes on the incoming NCAA kids which helped a lot.
 

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Jimmy Johnson would fail miserably if he came back to coach in the NFL. Yes, the game has passed him by because that happens when you are away from coaching for 14 years. You don't get better at your craft by not doing it, especially the older you get. The comparison to Parcells and being able to adapt is not a good one because Parcells had only been out of coaching for only a few years. Jimmy has been gone a very long time. Perhaps Dick Vermeil would be a better comparison and Vermeil was a bout 10 years younger than Jimmy is now when he went back to coach the Rams after being away for 15 years. And if Trent Green doesn't get hurt the Rams probably don't insert Kurt Warner and win a Super Bowl

The circumstances now would be far different than when Jimmy was first with Dallas or even during his time in Miami. He isn't in touch with who are the good players coming out of college right now whereas during his stint with Dallas he knew them all. He also doesn't have a handle on assistant coaches. He doesn't have a strong working relationship with current coaches.

I think Bill Cowher and Jon Gruden would have tough times coming back to the coaching game and they have been away from it for fewer years than Jimmy and both are a lot younger.
 

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I am curious.

Do you think he could set this ship in the right direction?

Please don't bother posting:

A.) that the game had changed and passed him by. He is smarter than Parcells in that respect. He would adapt where Bill refused to.

B.) that he failed in Miami.

C.) Jerry would never let it happen.

The question is, could he come in here, have that press conference stating how things are going to change and anything less than winning is unacceptable and get us going in right direction again (again, as in again since he left and again, as in his second stint as leader of boys).

The game has changed a lot since Jimmy left the pro circuit. He also failed in Miami, and Jerry would never let it happen.
 

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I don't know that his methods would work with modern day players.
 

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I am curious.

Do you think he could set this ship in the right direction?

Please don't bother posting:

A.) that the game had changed and passed him by. He is smarter than Parcells in that respect. He would adapt where Bill refused to.

B.) that he failed in Miami.

C.) Jerry would never let it happen.

The question is, could he come in here, have that press conference stating how things are going to change and anything less than winning is unacceptable and get us going in right direction again (again, as in again since he left and again, as in his second stint as leader of boys).

He probably could turn it around if he had enough incentive.

Jerry could give him a $1 per year salary with a 100 million bonus to win a Super Bowl. Jimmy would find the right coaches and talent evaluators to get it done.

The issue in Miami was that Jimmy's method would only work it they got rid of veteran leaders with too much locker room presence. The owner wouldn't let him cut Marino at which point Jimmy said screw it, set things up for his buddy Wanbstedt to take over and just finished out his contract.
 

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No.

We constantly knock Garrett's offense and the Tampa 2 for being too simple, basic, and anachronistic.

No one ran a simpler, more basic system (offense and defense) than Jimmy Johnson. He was successful because he had once in a generation collection of talent.
 

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These are my three responses to your question...

A.) that the game had changed and passed him by. He is smarter than Parcells in that respect. He would adapt where Bill refused to.

B.) that he failed in Miami.

C.) Jerry would never let it happen.
 

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I don't personally believe he could only because I believe that one of the best things about Jimmy was his ability to strike fear into people in such a way that it made them give everything they had because they knew he would be opposed to getting rid of them if they under performed. With the way the salary cap now is a guy like Miles, who Jimmy could have cut for being this under performing before, wouldn't worry at all because he wouldn't be able to do anything to him really because of the cap implications.

I think that would greatly impact the ability of Jimmy to get things done. Plus he has been away from the college game for so long now that I think it would definately effect his ability to be as good at drafting as he was when he was in Dallas.
 
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