Seriously, if Jimmy came back

[BringBackThatOleTimeBoys]

^ I'd say he was both good and lucky - sometimes you need both.

Joe Gibbs the second time around was good, but not lucky....but then working for Snyder is not conducive to being lucky.

 

[zrinkill]

I have never seen so many self styled realist living in such a fantasy ..... first Troy now Jimmy.

You better hope he just finds a guy who he can work like Jimmy.......

 

[Kaiser]

One of the hallmark attributes of Jimmy was his ability to recognize talent.

Jimmy "recognized" the talent of guys like Alonzo Highsmith and Daniel Stubbs also. Jimmy was a key part of the Super Bowl teams, but most of his draft victories came from having a lot of high draft picks.

 

[joseephuss]

It would take Jimma 3 seasons to wright the ship.
If he can take over the draft completely (with his trusted lieutenants) and given all personnel duties. he can.
Jimma was the greated coach we ever had and did more in the shortest time possible.

Who would be his trusted lieutenants? He doesn't have the connections now that he had in 1989.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Jimmy "recognized" the talent of guys like Alonzo Highsmith and Daniel Stubbs also. Jimmy was a key part of the Super Bowl teams, but most of his draft victories came from having a lot of high draft picks.

He still had to pull the trigger and get the right player. All drafts are flawed with picks that do not work out.

But the Super Bowl teams were built on he and his staff picking winners that could execute the game plan.

There is far too much evidence he knew what he was doing versus his making mistakes. Hell, Jerry holds up three trophies and claims he had a hand in what Jimmy brought to this franchise.

 

[Kaiser]

There is far too much evidence he knew what he was doing versus his making mistakes.

If you ignore his mistakes and only look at what he did right, sure. Everyone is a hero by that standard.

 

[tyke1doe]

The game has changed a lot since Jimmy left the pro circuit. He also failed in Miami, and Jerry would never let it happen.

LOL! You're the child who stuck a fork in the light socket when your mother told you not to.

 

[RS12]

Seriously, if Jimmy came back

He is 72 years old. He is set for life financially and has a great TV gig. He is not coming back to this mess and agravation.

 

[FiveRings]

Yeah, but I don't think it would happen, and not to take a dump on your thread, but aside from the fact that "Jerry would never let it happen", I think Jimmy is 10x happier at this juncture in his life, being a fisherman and getting to talk about football once per week for a few months. He wouldn't want to come back. The man just bought a plane.

 

[joseephuss]

He is 72 years old. He is set for life financially and has a great TV gig. He is not coming back to this mess and agravation.

He isn't coaching again even if it were for team considered to be in a great situation.

 

[TwoDeep3]

If you ignore his mistakes and only look at what he did right, sure. Everyone is a hero by that standard.

So everyone who drafts have three Super Bowls?

I spent a great deal of time with a website that has all the draft picks for each team and broke down what Jimmy actually did.

He traded away enough picks that it left him just a bit over 100 picks in his tenure with Dallas. He blew it on about thirty picks. Mostly later round picks, and he was in the era where they had twelve rounds. However, his 1990 draft, if I remember correctly, wasn't as stellar as some. But I could be wrong on the year.

He had essentially sixty nine picks that could be considered to count, although all of them surely count against his drafting.

Of those 69 picks, he hit on something like 35 of them that directly contributed to Super Bowl victories.

I suggest you go back and take a look at what he did. Outside of Haley, he was pretty darn masterful at picking players.

http://www.drafthistory.com/

 

[theSHOW]

I just want to say that Jimmy was an AMAZING COACH but just like Jimmy Hoffa, he aint coming back.

 

[theSHOW]

I do want to say Jimmy looks pretty haggard on the FOX SHOW. After he lost all that fast weight his face shriveled into a corned beef sandwich and he looks almost 80 now. Kiffin would love him around VR so it would make him look ten years younger. I have no desire for Jimmy as the HC. He would fail. But the old jimmy had it GOING ON IN DALLAS

hooooweeee How bout them Cowboys!

 

[casmith07]

LOL! You're the child who stuck a fork in the light socket when your mother told you not to.

Nah. I'm just on #TeamJerry like my avatar and user title say. This place is too boring and serious - I'm just trying to lighten the atmosphere.

 

[Kaiser]

I suggest you go back and take a look at what he did. Outside of Haley, he was pretty darn masterful at picking players.

Sure, if you ignore the Alonzo Highsmiths and Danny Stubbs. I don't have to go back and look, I lived through it at the time. Jimmy was great, no question about it. But its become folklore that every good thing that happened was Jimmy and every bad thing that happened was Jerry.

Jimmy is now a legend that won three Super Bowls despite the meddling from Jerry. But as soon as he went to Miami where he had full control and no meddling from Jerry, he completely tanked. Jimmy's draft record you are citing has been covered by others in this thread, it was because he was drafting players he (or his close friends) had played for and/or players he had scouted since High School.

 

[Risen Star]

Jimmy didn't completely tank in Miami. He rebuilt that defense down there and had the team in the playoffs. He just made the mistake of sticking with a broken down Marino.

But anyone with the slightest clue knows he was the architect of our dynasty. I don't want to hear about his staff. All GMs or head coaches have them. He was the leader. He didn't do it while dealing with a meddling Jerry. Jerry didn't meddle at that time. But once he righted the financial ship of this team and tasted a little success he decided he wanted to play fantasy football with his team. That's when Jimmy had enough of him and got the heck out of dodge.

Seriously. We are way beyond even attempting to tell another story of those years.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He still had to pull the trigger and get the right player. All drafts are flawed with picks that do not work out.

But the Super Bowl teams were built on he and his staff picking winners that could execute the game plan.

There is far too much evidence he knew what he was doing versus his making mistakes. Hell, Jerry holds up three trophies and claims he had a hand in what Jimmy brought to this franchise.

An eye for talent can be objectively measured by success rate. He had a tremendous amount of top 100 picks those first few years and hit on less than half of them. That is about average for the league.

You can go ahead with your subjective evaluation that I put little stock into.

 

[TwoDeep3]

Sure, if you ignore the Alonzo Highsmiths and Danny Stubbs. I don't have to go back and look, I lived through it at the time. Jimmy was great, no question about it. But its become folklore that every good thing that happened was Jimmy and every bad thing that happened was Jerry.

Jimmy is now a legend that won three Super Bowls despite the meddling from Jerry. But as soon as he went to Miami where he had full control and no meddling from Jerry, he completely tanked. Jimmy's draft record you are citing has been covered by others in this thread, it was because he was drafting players he (or his close friends) had played for and/or players he had scouted since High School.

See Risen Star's comments.

I quote here: He just made the mistake of sticking with a broken down Marino.

 

[TwoDeep3]

An eye for talent can be objectively measured by success rate. He had a tremendous amount of top 100 picks those first few years and hit on less than half of them. That is about average for the league.

You can go ahead with your subjective evaluation that I put little stock into.

Hey Fuzzy, nice seeing you again.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Jimmy didn't completely tank in Miami. He rebuilt that defense down there and had the team in the playoffs. He just made the mistake of sticking with a broken down Marino.

But anyone with the slightest clue knows he was the architect of our dynasty. I don't want to hear about his staff. All GMs or head coaches have them. He was the leader. He didn't do it while dealing with a meddling Jerry. Jerry didn't meddle at that time. But once he righted the financial ship of this team and tasted a little success he decided he wanted to play fantasy football with his team. That's when Jimmy had enough of him and got the heck out of dodge.

Seriously. We are way beyond even attempting to tell another story of those years.

It's more like anyone who listened to Jimmy's camp from the early 90s and the power struggle 'knows' that. You are perhaps the king of filling the gaps.