Shanahan comment about Romo

[Rockport]

This is the problem with Romo lovers. He has a really good game, like he does every year, and people lose their mind. Elway took sorry teams to the Super Bowl way before he met Shanahan. Romo, we just want the dude to get in the playoffs right now. I know all great QBs in history didn't win Super Bowls, but they were at least in the playoffs most years competing for Super Bowls. Our expectations are so low for Romo and the Cowboys, it's just laughable. Try winning or making the playoffs 1 time before we even think about Super Bowls.

And I'll say it again, QB play is the difference between a Super Bowl winner and an 8-8 team.

LOL, I've never seen a QB go back in coverage or rush the passer.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Even on a sorry team, great QB play will keep you in the playoffs.

51 beats 48 every time.

 

[dboyz]

Even on a sorry team, great QB play will keep you in the playoffs.

Well we'll find out because statistically Romo is playing great this year. If he keeps playing that way and our defense is not an abomination, we go to the playoffs.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Well we'll find out because statistically Romo is playing great this year. If he keeps playing that way and our defense is not an abomination, we go to the playoffs.

Really, that road to the playoffs has to start this week.

If we start 2-4, .. what are the odds that we get to the playoffs, or make any noise even if we do?
I don't like the odds.

 

[Cebrin]

This is the problem with Romo lovers. He has a really good game, like he does every year, and people lose their mind. Elway took sorry teams to the Super Bowl way before he met Shanahan. Romo, we just want the dude to get in the playoffs right now. I know all great QBs in history didn't win Super Bowls, but they were at least in the playoffs most years competing for Super Bowls. Our expectations are so low for Romo and the Cowboys, it's just laughable. Try winning or making the playoffs 1 time before we even think about Super Bowls.

And I'll say it again, QB play is the difference between a Super Bowl winner and an 8-8 team.

Even on a sorry team, great QB play will keep you in the playoffs.

We made the playoffs and won a playoff game and then faced Brett Favre and the then No 1 defense in the league. Sub Par weapons, penalty after penalty and a weak D made us find our exit in that game. You say our expectations are poor? I don't want a playoff. I want a SUPER BOWL. Which is why I say, defense, defense, defense. It is historically proven to be the #1 reason you win a Super Bowl. Attach that to this already explosive offense. We'll be racking up another Dynasty in Dallas.

 

[car351]

The REAL question is 'perception v. reality' when it comes to Romo and comparing him to some of the greats. Lets use P. Manning. Are you gonna blame last year on his safety allowing Baltimore back in the game and just blindly dismiss the fact that they won the OT coin toss and Manning threw back against his body to set up the winning kick? Are you gonna forget the pick six to Porter to lose the Super Bowl?. How 'bout 8 consecutive 12 win seasons or more in Indy and all of 'one' ring albeit against a sexy Rexy led less than impressive Bears team?....If the media were truly honest they would eventually call it the way the numbers present themselves. Peyton Manning has had 20 post season opportunities in his career. He has won 9. And for those who will give the "team game" rebuttal and his defenses weren't good enuf, I think 20 opportunities is more than enuf chances for the law of averages to finally kick in and reward more than the "one" ring he has. Could it just be that he is the Alex Rodriguez of the NFL? I dunno but his "regular season" stats sure seem to support it. Let's just hope that Romo is not a 'mini me' of Peyton. God forbid.

 

[KJJ]

#2 or 3 on the hater/ignorant list.

Congrats.

 

[KJJ]

Defensive Passer Rating
1 Chiefs 62.3
2 49ers 67.6
3 Seahawks 68.2

26 Cowboys 105.7

What's the Broncos defensive passer rating?

 

[KJJ]

Alex Smith and the KC Chiefs say hello.

Kapernik just smiles and nods.

Neither team is "dominating." SF is 3-2 you call that dominating? They got their butts handed to them in both their losses. The Chiefs are undefeated but they aren't a dominating team. The "dominant" team is Denver who's averaging 46 points a game. Manning has produced 20 TD's and has a passer rating of 136.4. They're dominating with a defense that ranks 29th which is one spot worse than the Cowboys due to the fact they have the most potent passing attack the NFL has ever seen after the first 5 games.

 

[Rockport]

Congrats.

Comprehension not your strong point huh? You're #2 on that haters/ignorant list. Thank you Shanahan.

 

[KJJ]

Comprehension not your strong point huh? You're #2 on that haters/ignorant list. Thank you Shanahan.

Then you must be #1 because you had a feeling the Cowboys were going to win the SB this season.

 

[Rockport]

Then you must be #1 because you had a feeling the Cowboys were going to win the SB this season.

Still do.

 

[kojak]

For those of us that support Romo this is exactly what we see.

“I think the people that see Tony practice every day and the teammates know what he can do. But you do it as a team,” Shanahan said. “Everybody’s got to do it together. I know when I was with John going into the 15th, 16th year, you had the same people saying that he couldn’t do it throughout his whole career and then when he does it, everybody’s, ‘Ah, well, we knew he could do it.’ It’s the same old thing. You’ve just got to fight through it. You can’t listen to the critics and you’ve got to believe in yourself. And I’m sure that’s what Tony’s doing.”

I like Romo but I don't see the comparison that Shanahan speaks of. Elway was a great QB his only problem was in his first three superbowls came at a time when the NFC was the more dominant conference. In his later years we began to see the start of the free agency and salary cap era to bring more balance to the league and the end of the dominance. Even in his late thirtys Elway was still good enough to win 2 superbowls before he retired. And I won't lie I was glad to see him finally reach his goal.

 

[Rockport]

I like Romo but I don't see the comparison that Shanahan speaks of. Elway was a great QB his only problem was in his first three superbowls came at a time when the NFC was the more dominant conference. In his later years we began to see the start of the free agency and salary cap era to bring more balance to the league and the end of the dominance. Even in his late thirtys Elway was still good enough to win 2 superbowls before he retired. And I won't lie I was glad to see him finally reach his goal.

Shanahan's point, and it's so simple and obvious for even a neanderthal to understand (not speaking to you), is that it takes more than a good QB to win Super Bowls. The haters get their takes from the likes of ESPN and other national talking heads and can't see the forest for the trees.

 

[Vtwin]

Neither team is "dominating." SF is 3-2 you call that dominating? They got their butts handed to them in both their losses. The Chiefs are undefeated but they aren't a dominating team. The "dominant" team is Denver who's averaging 46 points a game. Manning has produced 20 TD's and has a passer rating of 136.4. They're dominating with a defense that ranks 29th which is one spot worse than the Cowboys due to the fact they have the most potent passing attack the NFL has ever seen after the first 5 games.

Chiefs are 5-0
49's are the defending NFC Champions

Neither of those QB's are elite yet they both have experienced success.

Now how have they managed to accomplish that?

Manning has played in ONE more SB than Kaepernik and literally threw that one away. Just like he did his team's championship hopes just last season.

Ball control and strong defense still wins when the best are playing the best.

How would you describe the strengths of BOTH SB teams last year?

 

[WV Cowboy]

Ball control and strong defense still wins when the best are playing the best.

How would you describe the strengths of BOTH SB teams last year?

So basically you are saying we are screwed.

 

[Vtwin]

So basically you are saying we are screwed.

LOL

Well I am a FAN so I'll always have hope....

 

[KJJ]

Still do.

It is certainly a pass heavy league, no arguing that. It's fastest way from point A to point B. Which is why a good defense is so crucial in this period of time. Tom Brady hasn't won another Superbowl since his stud class defense fell apart years ago with Vrabel, Bruschi, Seymour, Milloy, Law, Hamilton, Poole, Wilson. Not to discredit a fine QB. Brady is a stud. Even as talented is he is. We all know from watching the rivalry that Eli got his rings on a studded defense. Super Bowls (because of a pass happy league) are won every bit as much by the caliber of Defense you have.Yes, defense wins Super Bowls. Here is why. These are the average offense and defensive scoring numbers for Super Bowl teams:

Super Bowl Winner: 25.59 points per game, 15.86 points per game allowed

Super Bowl Loser: 25.67 points per game, 17.00 points per game allowed

During the regular season, the team that loses the Super Bowl actually scores slightly more often than the champion. However, they allow a much more significant 1.14 points per game on average than the winning team. That number continues to hold up in other statistics. The Total Defense of the Super Bowl loser is ranked 9.41 in the NFL on average, while the Total Defense of the winning team is ranked 6.5 on average.The champion of the league is ranked almost 3 spots higher on average than the losing team. On average, they are both ranked ~7th on offense. However, the Super Bowl winner is ranked about 8.7th on defense, while the loser was ranked 11.6th on D. Since 1990, teams ranked 1st or 2nd in scoring defense are 10-2 in the Super Bowl. Both losses (2010 Packers over Steelers, 2004 Patriots over Eagles) came to a team that was also ranked 1st or 2nd in scoring defense. Overall, teams ranked 1st or 2nd in scoring defense are 22-11. 31 of 46 Super Bowl winners had a top 5 scoring defense. 30 Super Bowl winners had a top 5 total defense. Last year being an oddity and Flacco did pretty great. 3 Td's early in the first half, disappeared in the second half. They almost lost that game. Kaepernick is still a little wet behind the ears. Some upside to him though for sure. But lets face it, QB's that think run first, rarely win the big game. I'd put every penny I have that if Tony Romo were in that Super Bowl as a SF 49er, they'd have won a Super Bowl last year.

No one is saying a good defense isn't important but all defenses bend today due to the rule changes that have handicapped defenders. Defenders have to think before they react or it can result in a fine or suspension. The NFL wants to promote safety and scoring. Years ago SB's use to be blowouts now practically every SB is going down to the wire due to the rules and prolific passing attacks. Defenses today have to deal with quick slot receivers and athletic TE's who are like huge WR's. The WR's today are 6' 2" to 6' 5" 210-230 lbs and can run 4.4 40's. They create all kinds of matchup problems along with these quick slot receivers who can find seams. It's a very different game today than when Elway, Aikman and Montana played so it's ridiculous to compare stats of QB's today with QB's from 2-3 decades ago. QB's today are protected more than ever before. You can't hit them high, low or a fraction too late. Everything in todays game has been bent to help offenses and protect players especially the QB which is why QB's efficiency ratings are so high today compared to years ago.

It was hard for QB's to complete 60% of their passes 20 years ago now we're seeing QB's complete 70-80% of their passes. In less than half a season Peyton Manning will surpass Aikman's career best for TD passes in a season. That's where the game is today. If you put every penny you had that Romo would have won the SB with SF last season you would be living in a cardboard box somewhere. Kaepernick is a duel threat QB who looks to throw first run second. Romo could have never made some of the clutch plays he made last season because he's not a clutch performer in spotlighted/elimination games. Romo would have never been able to bring SF back from a 17 point deficit in the SB because he's failed miserably in adverse situations in do or die games which is why he has 12 turnovers in his 6 elimination game losses. He loses his poise in those situations and it leads to multiple turnovers. To say he could win championships with other teams is pure fantasy because in todays game QB's have to be clutch in the playoffs and SB regardless of the team around them. At some point a game is going to be on the QB's shoulders where they have to make a play. The last 4 SB MVP's have all been QB's. Romo has proven time and time again that he is incapable of making plays in critical situations in spotlighted/elimination games especially on the road in a hostile environment.

Of Romo's 12 elimination game turnovers 11 of them have come on the road. In 06 Romo had two 1000 yard receivers and a 1000 yard back. In 07 he was surrounded by a team that went 13-3 and had 13 pro bowlers but in the game that mattered most that season he didn't have it. He's a great statistical regular season QB who can't avoid the big mistake at the worst possible time in the games that matter most. As the years have gone by his choking problem has gotten worse. Practically every big game ends with him turning the ball over. Landry would have never won a championship if Roger Staubach didn't come along. Meredith was good, Morton was good and so was Danny White they all won more playoff games than Romo but they weren't clutch and Staubach was that was the difference. Romo is the greatest statistical QB the Cowboys have ever had but unfortunately he's the worst big game QB in franchise history.

 

[Idgit]

...Ball control and strong defense still wins when the best are playing the best.

No, it doesn't. Unless you're talking about strong *pass* defense.

 

[Kevinicus]

This is the problem with Romo lovers. He has a really good game, like he does every year, and people lose their mind. Elway took sorry teams to the Super Bowl way before he met Shanahan. Romo, we just want the dude to get in the playoffs right now. I know all great QBs in history didn't win Super Bowls, but they were at least in the playoffs most years competing for Super Bowls. Our expectations are so low for Romo and the Cowboys, it's just laughable. Try winning or making the playoffs 1 time before we even think about Super Bowls.

And I'll say it again, QB play is the difference between a Super Bowl winner and an 8-8 team.

Not if the defense is the problem, it's not.