Shannon breaks down why Roger Goodell could be in trouble if he suspends Ezekiel Elliott

[erod]

that was my point....it is all silly and stereotypical........if an announcer did an Asian accent and dropped the Ls for Rs it would be racist..........if they went all Crocodile Dundee or Groundskeeper Willie it would be mocked..... but for the Latino players some anchors start rollings their Rs and hitting all the accent marks like they are on Univision but then go back to a regular dialect when the highlight is over

A big pet peeve of mine

We agree here. Announcers are expected to say Latin names, countries, etc, exactly as they should be, but Hispanic announcers can butcher English to no end, and it's just fine.

 

[phildadon86]

Part of the problem with talking to a person via blog or other written form is the lack of body language. Given the language you employed (such as "my friend" "crazy thinking" "some kind of ist" "tired troupe") I take it this topic means more to you than me... especially on Friday night. So in an effort to settle this peacefully, let me ask you this:

What if it was you? How would you feel if some famous person pulled down your pants (underwear in tow) with cameras watching...and then the next day you saw it on TMZ? And what if, because of who did it, it becomes a national story? And what if there's an unedited version of the film online? And what if a lawyer contacts you and explains he can make you millions if you sue? Would you? Because while most won't admit it, a good portion of the people out there would.

And all of the above was rhetorical.

Have a good weekend.

Here is the thing though, he was told to do it. I was under the impression she pointed at herself and told him to yank it down. It would make sense considering they hung out directly after in florida and are friends to this day.

 

[jday]

Here is the thing though, he was told to do it. I was under the impression she pointed at herself and told him to yank it down. It would make sense considering they hung out directly after in florida and are friends to this day.

I am only playing the devils advocate here...please keep that in mind:

I doubt if the NFL cares what the context of the situation was. From their perspective, they care how it makes the NFL look to people who lack an understanding of what was happening in that situation. From a viewers perspective, he pulled a girls shirt down and while she smiled, she also quickly covered up suggesting she did not like it. Again, context of the situation may tell a completely different story, but I doubt if the NFL cares.

Just my two-cents worth.

 

[jday]

I think it is serious if he is painted as a sex offender or domestic abuser. I am comfortable taking you at your word but there are plenty of men that do take the position that you are currently taking and mean it.

The "Safe Sexual Harassment" comment was a persuasive device in my negotiation with Mrtxstar. It was not intended to be taken seriously.

That said, Zeke did make a poor choice. Here's hoping he makes better decisions going forward and the NFL doesn't make use of the conduct policy to justify a stupid suspension. I won't like it, but at the same time, I won't be surprised if they do suspend him either.

Given the offseason we are having, that would be par for the course.

 

[dogunwo]

The league needs to announce what the discipline is for the domestic assault case first, and then separately address any conduct discipline. They should not be allowed to lump all the discipline together into one suspension as many are suggesting.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The "Safe Sexual Harassment" comment was a persuasive device in my negotiation with Mrtxstar. It was not intended to be taken seriously.

That said, Zeke did make a poor choice. Here's hoping he makes better decisions going forward and the NFL doesn't make use of the conduct policy to justify a stupid suspension. I won't like it, but at the same time, I won't be surprised if they do suspend him either.

Given the offseason we are having, that would be par for the course.

It is a poor choice from a pr perspective because of people like yourself on the other hand it's up to her to decide whether or not there was anything wrong with what he did. It looks like my burka comment was apt after all.

 

[jday]

It is a poor choice from a pr perspective because of people like yourself on the other hand it's up to her to decide whether or not there was anything wrong with what he did. It looks like my burka comment was apt after all.

I'm not really sure what the driving force is behind your attacking me...I am about as far from being an Extreme Muslim as one can be. And all I've done in this conversation is attempt to provide what the NFL's perspective on that situation might be.

That said, pulling down a woman's top is inappropriate in public, regardless if she is cool with it or not. Its not about what she thinks. Unfortunately, its now about what the NFL thinks because the act was caught on camera. If that makes me Extreme-Muslim-like in your opinion, oh well...I've been accused of worse...

 

[dallasdave]

FIRE
Roger Goodell

 

[Pants]

so, back to the original topic, what did that mushmouth sharpe say?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I'm not really sure what the driving force is behind your attacking me...I am about as far from being an Extreme Muslim as one can be. And all I've done in this conversation is attempt to provide what the NFL's perspective on that situation might be.

That said, pulling down a woman's top is inappropriate in public, regardless if she is cool with it or not. Its not about what she thinks. Unfortunately, its now about what the NFL thinks because the act was caught on camera. If that makes me Extreme-Muslim-like in your opinion, oh well...I've been accused of worse...

You want women to hide their bodies as if they should be ashamed. That is the exact same sentiment that led to the burqa.

I never said you were Muslim but it is the most prominent example of that form of misogyny left in the world. Christianity was big on it about a century or two ago.

If you don't want to see it then you really shouldn't go to parades where they hand out beads and what not because it happens all the time.

 

[jday]

You want women to hide their bodies as if they should be ashamed. That is the exact same sentiment that led to the burqa.

I never said you were Muslim but it is the most prominent example of that form of misogyny left in the world. Christianity was big on it about a century or two ago.

If you don't want to see it then you really shouldn't go to parades where they hand out beads and what not because it happens all the time.

Why do I feel like I'm arguing with my wife?

You have completely twisted this conversation into me having an issue with what a woman does with her body and Zeke is a male. How did you get this confused?

 

[Nightman]

Why do I feel like I'm arguing with my wife?

You have completely twisted this conversation into me having an issue with what a woman does with her body and Zeke is a male. How did you get this confused?

You have intentionally misrepresented what EE did this whole thread against anyone that will bite

You have said rape, sexual assault and other exaggerations and when you get called on it you use the cop out that you are only playing Devil's Advocate

Your argument for a suspension is lame and so is your awwww schucks morality routine

We get it.......you are rooting for a suspension so you can say 'I told you so'.......... aren't you late for a book burning........I hear that 50 Shades of Grey is so misogynistic

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Why do I feel like I'm arguing with my wife?

You have completely twisted this conversation into me having an issue with what a woman does with her body and Zeke is a male. How did you get this confused?

Probably because you don't consider her opinion, wants, and the like just like you don't with the woman in question here.

You said that a woman showing her body is a problem inherently and regardless of circumstance. That sentiment is what leads modern Muslims to make woman cover their whole bodies. It is what it is.

 

[jday]

You have intentionally misrepresented what EE did this whole thread against anyone that will bite

You have said rape, sexual assault and other exaggerations and when you get called on it you use the cop out that you are only playing Devil's Advocate

Your argument for a suspension is lame and so is your awwww schucks morality routine

We get it.......you are rooting for a suspension so you can say 'I told you so'.......... aren't you late for a book burning........I hear that 50 Shades of Grey is so misogynistic

Fascinating, truly.

Probably because you don't consider her opinion, wants, and the like just like you don't with the woman in question here.

You said that a woman showing her body is a problem inherently and regardless of circumstance. That sentiment is what leads modern Muslims to make woman cover their whole bodies. It is what it is.

In reality, context is everything. In society, perception tends to account for more. I'm merely pointing out that it was a poor choice on Zeke's part, regardless of the girls opinion. It's the whole football players are held to a higher standard sentiment I was attempting to explain and why a suspension may happen.

 

[mldardy]

Amazing how he has this job. He literally can't speak

Can someone summarize for me?

I would rather not listen to Shannon Sharpe's mush mouth try to explain it to me.

Yeah I understood everything he said. Never had a a problem not understanding Shannon. Can we get rid of thie narrative that guys like Shannon Sharpe and other athletes especially BLACK athletes can't speak. I am getting beyond sick and tired of it. It's ridiculous. And if you need it summarized for you without watching then that already shows you preconceived ignorance.

 

[mldardy]

so, back to the original topic, what did that mushmouth sharpe say?

Find out by watching the video. That's why it was posted in the OP.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Fascinating, truly.

In reality, context is everything. In society, perception tends to account for more. I'm merely pointing out that it was a poor choice on Zeke's part, regardless of the girls opinion. It's the whole football players are held to a higher standard sentiment I was attempting to explain and why a suspension may happen.

The context was a parade where beads were being thrown and women were lifting their shirts. She was doing it on her own and was not the only one.

Law enforcement declined to take issue for any of it. Your notions of modesty are your own yet here you are insisting on it similar to how men in the middle east insist their women comply with their notions of modesty.

And you did not need to point out that heropinion was meaningless to you. You have made that clear from the start.

 

[jday]

The context was a parade where beads were being thrown and women were lifting their shirts. She was doing it on her own and was not the only one.

Law enforcement declined to take issue for any of it. Your notions of modesty are your own yet here you are insisting on it similar to how men in the middle east insist their women comply with their notions of modesty.

And you did not need to point out that heropinion was meaningless to you. You have made that clear from the start.

I feel like you are taking your frustration of this situation out on me; deflecting, if you will. It is certainly okay for you to be disappointed by the potential suspension. But if he is suspended, it will have nothing to do with my opinion or how I view the situation. But for you to have some clarity on that view point, here's one last shot at it:

Regardless if she is at a parade or at the grocery store, if a woman wants to bear her breast, that's her business. She can do what she wants. As a father, I'd prefer she didn't do it in front of my young boys, but outside of that she is well within her right to do what she wants with her body. For some reason, you continuously make the argument that I would take issue with that and I really don't outside of the "in front of children" caveat.

As we all know, that's not what happened. If the girl Zeke was with lifted her own shirts for cameras, this would not be news...no one, including myself, would care. Furthermore, just so we are completely clear, the fact that she raised her own shirt previous to Zeke doing it, doesn't change the fact that Zeke should not be reaching over and pulling her top down in public. If you disagree, have at it.

Just remember, football players are held to a higher standard; not by me, but by the NFL.

If that doesn't clear it up for you nothing will.