Shannon breaks down why Roger Goodell could be in trouble if he suspends Ezekiel Elliott

[JoeKing]

I'm playing devil's advocate to your devil's advocate because I just enjoy messing with you. His relationship to her is absolutely relevant. He did not and would not do this to a stranger, he did it to someone he had enough familiarity with that he knew how she would react and feel about it afterwards. That knowledge came before the fact not after. He would not do this to someone that he did not have this familiarity with. Of course she immediately pulled her top back up... I know a few woman that have no problem flashing their top in public but don't want to walk around topless. Kids have been going around pulling down tops as long as there have been tops to pull down, don't blame that on EE. It's not like EE has a Public Service Announcement on TV telling kids how to get away with pulling tops down... "the more you know".

I'd actually like to see that PSA though.

 

[jday]

I'm playing devil's advocate to your devil's advocate because I just enjoy messing with you. His relationship to her is absolutely relevant. He did not and would not do this to a stranger, he did it to someone he had enough familiarity with that he knew how she would react and feel about it afterwards. That knowledge came before the fact not after. He would not do this to someone that he did not have this familiarity with. Of course she immediately pulled her top back up... I know a few woman that have no problem flashing their top in public but don't want to walk around topless. Kids have been going around pulling down tops as long as there have been tops to pull down, don't blame that on EE. It's not like EE has a Public Service Announcement on TV telling kids how to get away with pulling tops down... "the more you know".

OBKB. Mental Joust Engage.

I will concede the point that Zeke at least practiced safe sexual harassment if you will at least acknowledge that the overlying point is not necessarily about the reality of the situation but more about how that act was perceived by the public at large.

 

[JoeKing]

OBKB. Mental Joust Engage.

I will concede the point that Zeke at least practiced safe sexual harassment if you will at least acknowledge that the overlying point is not necessarily about the reality of the situation but more about how that act was perceived by the public at large.

I concede.

 

[BlueStar22]

Amazing how he has this job. He literally can't speak

He sounds perfectly articulate to me. Sounds like what I'd expect a South Georgian to sound like.

 

[Diehardblues]

If Zeke was suspended over this, then 50% of the NFL could be suspended over similar stuff.

And it would open up the blackmail market against players ten-fold.

Zeke's been an ornery child this past year, but he hasn't done anything suspension worthy yet. Period.

I can agree with that but I'd wonder what it would take for the Cowboys within to provide some discipline? Like maybe sitting him for a half. The kid has to know he's not above being sat down.

 

[erod]

I can agree with that but I'd wonder what it would take for the Cowboys within to provide some discipline? Like maybe sitting him for a half. The kid has to know he's not above being sat down.

I think they have. The media out there is saying he's very withdrawn and quiet this year at camp. Different than last year.

 

[Diehardblues]

I think they have. The media out there is saying he's very withdrawn and quiet this year at camp. Different than last year.

I read yesterday he's not speaking to the media at all. Surely that's by design with his situation not just by chance?

 

[Trouty]

Presumably, they are delaying as to not interfere with Hall of Fame week, which is okay I guess. Who wants a total screw job to be blown up during a week of what is supposed to be pageantry and celebration. Especially with Jones getting elected.

Another week is really not going to matter at this stage.

What's your gut say on this, Alex? Nada, or some sort of punishment? Gut is telling me nada

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

What's your gut say on this, Alex? Nada, or some sort of punishment? Gut is telling me nada

I wish my gut was saying that. Don't trust Goodell at all.

 

[Trouty]

I wish my gut was saying that. Don't trust Goodell at all.

You're thinking a game? 2? More, PA?

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

You're think a game? 2? More, PA?

I'm thinking at least one. I don't think he should be though. I haven't seen any proof he did anything unless they get him for pulling that woman's top down.

 

[Trouty]

I'm thinking at least one. I don't think he should be though. I haven't seen any proof he did anything unless they get him for pulling that woman's top down.

Same. I just don't see him getting hit. Let's pray, brother

 

[Philmonroe]

Part of the problem with talking to a person via blog or other written form is the lack of body language. Given the language you employed (such as "my friend" "crazy thinking" "some kind of ist" "tired troupe") I take it this topic means more to you than me... especially on Friday night. So in an effort to settle this peacefully, let me ask you this:

What if it was you? How would you feel if some famous person pulled down your pants (underwear in tow) with cameras watching...and then the next day you saw it on TMZ? And what if, because of who did it, it becomes a national story? And what if there's an unedited version of the film online? And what if a lawyer contacts you and explains he can make you millions if you sue? Would you? Because while most won't admit it, a good portion of the people out there would.

And all of the above was rhetorical.

Have a good weekend.

I will agree with the body language and also the fact that online people seem to like to do the you're more invest junk even though they are replying back themselves. This topic means nothing more than just speaking on it like you. Why do you need to feel like the topic means more to me than you? Is this some online winning the "debate" tactic because given like you said that we can't see each other I like how you just assume I'm super invested over words I used. That really sounds stupid. Actually it doesn't just sound that way it is. This is a messageboard and there is agreements and disagreements everyday and this is no different.

If it was me I wouldn't care in the similar situation because I obviously have some previous relationship with said famous person. You need a better question and I don't need the money. On top of that why would I do that to someone I have a relationship with?

 

[jday]

I will agree with the body language and also the fact that online people seem to like to do the you're more invest junk even though they are replying back themselves. This topic means nothing more than just speaking on it like you. Why do you need to feel like the topic means more to me than you? Is this some online winning the "debate" tactic because given like you said that we can't see each other I like how you just assume I'm super invested over words I used. That really sounds stupid. Actually it doesn't just sound that way it is. This is a messageboard and there is agreements and disagreements everyday and this is no different.

If it was me I wouldn't care in the similar situation because I obviously have some previous relationship with said famous person. You need a better question and I don't need the money. On top of that why would I do that to someone I have a relationship with?

You give me far too much credit for scheming. My previous assertion was purely based on observation. You attacked me and my character with the aforementioned quoted words. That's what suggested to me that you had strong feelings on the topic. I've been rather cool throughout this conversation whereas you called me stupid in your last response. Name-calling is a smoking gun to emotional bondage. I would suggest you talk to someone about your feelings; someone who cares about you...so obviously I'm out on that.
You may not do something like that, but there are people who would. Just saying...food for thought, minus the insults.

 

[Philmonroe]

You give me far too much credit for scheming. My previous assertion was purely based on observation. You attacked me and my character with the aforementioned quoted words. That's what suggested to me that you had strong feelings on the topic. I've been rather cool throughout this conversation whereas you called me stupid in your last response. Name-calling is a smoking gun to emotional bondage. I would suggest you talk to someone about your feelings; someone who cares about you...so obviously I'm out on that.
You may not do something like that, but there are people who would. Just saying...food for thought, minus the insults.

The only thing I'm giving you credit for is assuming. Mastermind of some schemes you aren't. I didn't attack anything with those words you choose to see my explanation of who usually says what you said as an attack. All I was doing was explaining why I had the view I did. I didn't call you stupid but I see you like being a victim. I said what you did was stupid in regards to assuming how invested I was in something over words online. That is a big difference between calling you stupid outright. Stop trying to be a victim over a discussion. Maybe you should stop trying to insult me with claims I need help but whine about me saying your assuming is stupid. Come on buddy don't say I "insulted" you then do what you just said is soo wrong. That right there shows you don't practice what you preach my man. Truth is you're mad I disagree with you and don't like it.

 

[jday]

The only thing I'm giving you credit for is assuming. Mastermind of some schemes you aren't. I didn't attack anything with those words you choose to see my explanation of who usually says what you said as an attack. All I was doing was explaining why I had the view I did. I didn't call you stupid but I see you like being a victim. I said what you did was stupid in regards to assuming how invested I was in something over words online. That is a big difference between calling you stupid outright. Stop trying to be a victim over a discussion. Maybe you should stop trying to insult me with claims I need help but whine about me saying your assuming is stupid. Come on buddy don't say I "insulted" you then do what you just said is soo wrong. That right there shows you don't practice what you preach my man. Truth is you're mad I disagree with you and don't like it.

You called me "buddy" and "my man," Gaylord. How do you expect me to process that? That's alot off strong language for a topic not near and dear. Just saying.

 

[Philmonroe]

You called me "buddy" and "my man," Gaylord. How do you expect me to process that? That's alot off strong language for a topic not near and dear. Just saying.

It depends on what type of processing capabilities you have. It seems to me you have 740khz so it may take you awhile but the sayings don't mean anything more than what they are. If that's strong language you must be about 100. Nobody would say them words are strong that isn't that old. That's awesome though that someone of that age is on here because my grandparents don't really use the computer at all. Go Cowboys!!!

 

[jday]

It depends on what type of processing capabilities you have. It seems to me you have 740khz so it may take you awhile but the sayings don't mean anything more than what they are. If that's strong language you must be about 100. Nobody would say them words are strong that isn't that old. That's awesome though that someone of that age is on here because my grandparents don't really use the computer at all. Go Cowboys!!!

People don't call people "buddy" in casual conversation unless their name is actually Buddy. You can hide your feelings all you like, given the name calling, the processing speed insult, and lastly the old age insult it is pretty obvious you have an unhealthy attachment to Zeke...cliche textbook stalker-tells. Are you in Oxnard? Do you like writing letters using words cut from magazines? Do you own all of the Scream movies? Do you have to carry a copy of The Catcher in the Rye everywhere you go? Does your refrigerator have locks on it despite the fact that you live alone? If so, your fandom may have taken a wrong turn...

Go Cowboys!!!

 

[Philmonroe]

People don't call people "buddy" in casual conversation unless their name is actually Buddy. You can hide your feelings all you like, given the name calling, the processing speed insult, and lastly the old age insult it is pretty obvious you have an unhealthy attachment to Zeke...cliche textbook stalker-tells. Are you in Oxnard? Do you like writing letters using words cut from magazines? Do you own all of the Scream movies? Do you have to carry a copy of The Catcher in the Rye everywhere you go? Does your refrigerator have locks on it despite the fact that you live alone? If so, your fandom may have taken a wrong turn...

Go Cowboys!!!

I have no feelings to hide on this issue. I said what I said and there is nothing more to it. I say buddy to a lot of people in casual convo even on here so just because you don't that doesn't mean everybody else doesn't also. Try again. I never called you any names. You asked for the processing speed insult by asking how you were going to process. Don't blame me because you set yourself up for the easy slam dunk. Old age isn't an insult used in the context I used it in. It is just truth only someone that old would consider the words you mentioned as strong. How do I have a stalker obsession with Zeke when I haven't even defended him once? Make sense when your posting. All that other stuff is fantasy but you are right I live alone but why would I need a lock on a refrigerator? That must be some different socioeconomic stuff that I'm not used to that you seem to be aware of. Tell me how that works? Actually don't because I don't care. Peace

 

[jday]

I have no feelings to hide on this issue. I said what I said and there is nothing more to it. I say buddy to a lot of people in casual convo even on here so just because you don't that doesn't mean everybody else doesn't also. Try again. I never called you any names. You asked for the processing speed insult by asking how you were going to process. Don't blame me because you set yourself up for the easy slam dunk. Old age isn't an insult used in the context I used it in. It is just truth only someone that old would consider the words you mentioned as strong. How do I have a stalker obsession with Zeke when I haven't even defended him once? Make sense when your posting. All that other stuff is fantasy but you are right I live alone but why would I need a lock on a refrigerator? That must be some different socioeconomic stuff that I'm not used to that you seem to be aware of. Tell me how that works? Actually don't because I don't care. Peace

I think you do care. You are in a safe place. We are Cowboys fans; brothers of common interest. No one will judge you if you share your true feelings on the matter. Unless your predominant concern is a suspension would interfere with your nefarious plans...that you should keep to yourself. Go Cowboys!!!