Shannon breaks down why Roger Goodell could be in trouble if he suspends Ezekiel Elliott

FuzzyLumpkins

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I suspect if that was your sister or your mom you would feel differently about it. Reaching over and pulling down a woman's top doesn't even belong in the same conversation as a speeding ticket. What happens all the time is women grab their own shirt and flash people. And as far as I'm concerned that is not an issue in the least. But when another man reaches over and exposes a woman, that could have been framed as rape. Was it? No...but had it not been on camera, with the right twist of context a good lawyer could milk millions out of Zeke for that stupid, stupid decision. Don't get me wrong, I truly do hope they don't suspend him, but I won't be surprised.

I like how you go all cavalier and call out people in the name of their mothers and sisters but in all of that you never even once seem to consider the opinion of the woman in question.

If anyone can frame it as rape or sexual assault then it would be her but in all of your diatribe you never even once consider what her opinion might be. I feel like I have a good idea considering that he went with her to Florida immediately after that.

As for how I would consider it if it were my sister or mother, I don't freak out when they put on bikinis and I don't freak out when they call for beads and things like that at alcohol-fueled Saint Patrick's Day parades. It's your type of sentiment that leads to women being put in chadors and burqas.
 

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OBKB. Mental Joust Engage.

I will concede the point that Zeke at least practiced safe sexual harassment if you will at least acknowledge that the overlying point is not necessarily about the reality of the situation but more about how that act was perceived by the public at large.

they weren't at work and there is no evidence that the advance was unwanted. Do you even know what sexual harassment is because it certainly seems like you don't. The woman's opinion matters.
 

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they weren't at work and there is no evidence that the advance was unwanted. Do you even know what sexual harassment is because it certainly seems like you don't. The woman's opinion matters.
He does not care what the woman's opinion is because he like a few too many men imo try to save/defend women who didn't ask for it. They say they care but it seems it's an ego play imo. If a woman really needs a mans help I'm all for it but in this situation how can people be more mad than the person it happened to?
 

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I think you do care. You are in a safe place. We are Cowboys fans; brothers of common interest. No one will judge you if you share your true feelings on the matter. Unless your predominant concern is a suspension would interfere with your nefarious plans...that you should keep to yourself. Go Cowboys!!!:thumbup:
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they weren't at work and there is no evidence that the advance was unwanted. Do you even know what sexual harassment is because it certainly seems like you don't. The woman's opinion matters.
Fuzzy, you should be familiar with me enough to know I'm simply having fun playing the devil's advocate on this one. It ain't that serious...even if Zeke does get suspended.
 

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He does not care what the woman's opinion is because he like a few too many men imo try to save/defend women who didn't ask for it. They say they care but it seems it's an ego play imo. If a woman really needs a mans help I'm all for it but in this situation how can people be more mad than the person it happened to?
:laugh::lmao::lmao2:

I seriously can't believe how serious you have been taking me. I accused you of being a stalker...that should have been your first clue.

Don't get me, I still say it was a poor decision on Zeke's part and wouldn't be surprised if they suspend him, but at the of the day, it's just football...it ain't that serious.:thumbup:
 

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Huh? How are you supposed to emphasize an Asian or British name?

Well, with the Asian names they are pronounced a little different than they look sometimes. Take Jung-ho Kang, for instance. To us English speakers, it looks like Jung-Hoe-Kang but they way it is pronounced in Korea is Joong oh Gung.

As far as the English names, I don't know. Pronounce them in an English accent? lol
 

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Well, with the Asian names they are pronounced a little different than they look sometimes. Take Jung-ho Kang, for instance. To us English speakers, it looks like Jung-Hoe-Kang but they way it is pronounced in Korea is Joong oh Gung.

As far as the English names, I don't know. Pronounce them in an English accent? lol
that was my point....it is all silly and stereotypical........if an announcer did an Asian accent and dropped the Ls for Rs it would be racist..........if they went all Crocodile Dundee or Groundskeeper Willie it would be mocked..... but for the Latino players some anchors start rollings their Rs and hitting all the accent marks like they are on Univision but then go back to a regular dialect when the highlight is over

A big pet peeve of mine
 

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that was my point....it is all silly and stereotypical........if an announcer did an Asian accent and dropped the Ls for Rs it would be racist..........if they went all Crocodile Dundee or Groundskeeper Willie it would be mocked..... but for the Latino players some anchors start rollings their Rs and hitting all the accent marks like they are on Univision but then go back to a regular dialect when the highlight is over

A big pet peeve of mine

Trying to kiss the butt of Spanish speaking viewers, I suppose. Larger demographic than Asians and expat Brits.
 

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that was my point....it is all silly and stereotypical........if an announcer did an Asian accent and dropped the Ls for Rs it would be racist..........if they went all Crocodile Dundee or Groundskeeper Willie it would be mocked..... but for the Latino players some anchors start rollings their Rs and hitting all the accent marks like they are on Univision but then go back to a regular dialect when the highlight is over

A big pet peeve of mine

Trigger word " Crocodile Dundee"
Man, I hit the over saturation level a long time ago with that accent,,,way b-4 Steve Irwin hit town and relit it,,,I can't handle listening to the BBC news commentators for very long either,,,,that Elizabeth Hurley voice is fantastic though.
 

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:laugh::lmao::lmao2:

I seriously can't believe how serious you have been taking me. I accused you of being a stalker...that should have been your first clue.

Don't get me, I still say it was a poor decision on Zeke's part and wouldn't be surprised if they suspend him, but at the of the day, it's just football...it ain't that serious.:thumbup:
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Presumably, they are delaying as to not interfere with Hall of Fame week, which is okay I guess. Who wants a total screw job to be blown up during a week of what is supposed to be pageantry and celebration. Especially with Jones getting elected.

Another week is really not going to matter at this stage.


Which makes me think he is going to be suspended. I haven't read all the pages in this thread yet so that could've been mentioned already.
 

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Fuzzy, you should be familiar with me enough to know I'm simply having fun playing the devil's advocate on this one. It ain't that serious...even if Zeke does get suspended.

I think it is serious if he is painted as a sex offender or domestic abuser. I am comfortable taking you at your word but there are plenty of men that do take the position that you are currently taking and mean it.
 
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