Shortage in elite QB's

rags747

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Hard to say. That team was stacked on both sides of the football. That Cowboys team wasn’t as good but could Brady have won here? Who knows. He left the Pats because he realized he needed better talent around him to succeed. He went to a Buccs team that won 8 games with Winston throwing 30 interceptions.
He went to the Bucs because he had had enough of Belicheck’s BS.
 

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Moving on from Dak would be a big taking a big risk and that’s not an opinion, it’s a fact! Who can we get that’s clearly better? We would be taking a huge risk trying to find someone that’s better. It could take years.
 

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Good point. 2008 and 2009 season you had 8 hall of fame quarterbacks all playing at the same time and another 2 (romo and mcnabb) that are "hall of very good".
Eli should not be a HOF; Brees is borderline. Rothlesburger will probably make it.
 

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Those claiming its a huge risk moving beyond Dak are clearly those that really do not care about winning another SB

What’s the risk? Answers given: could take years to find a suitable replacement (which will be the case no matter when they move on from the current QB), don’t you remember the time between Aikman/Romo (of course we do-you keep equating losing the current QB with going right back to those years as though this team and those teams have lots in common apart from who is playing QB), you think you can just plug a guy in and begin winning 12 games a season (of course not-this team is on a two dimensional circle track and the QB is entering his 9th year-you don’t think it likely he and this team have gone as far as they can together?), you think good QB’s just grow on trees (no, plenty of okay/good QB’s land on good to average teams and have decent records though perhaps just missing the playoffs).

The fact remains that with this QB’s current list of postseason exploits, that the team has basically a zero percent chance of even reaching a conference finals game let alone a Super Bowl (all-time NFL historically speaking). He is almost guaranteed to not be a starter five years from now-or a greatly diminished one. Most QB’s do not make it to the age 40 season-no matter if they are exceptional prototypical pocket passers or not (and that is not this QB’s game and never will be).
 

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Moving on from Dak would be a big taking a big risk and that’s not an opinion, it’s a fact! Who can we get that’s clearly better? We would be taking a huge risk trying to find someone that’s better. It could take years.
What are we risking? Good regular seasons and losing playoff games
I consider losing those for some years worth going for it all
AS has been proven you have to take risks to make it over the hump
 

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Those claiming its a huge risk moving beyond Dak are clearly those that really do not care about winning another SB
There will be a time to move on from Dak. Just not right now when he’s in the prime of his career and playing MVP All Pro football.

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What are we risking? Good regular seasons and losing playoff games
I consider losing those for some years worth going for it all
AS has been proven you have to take risks to make it over the hump
I just explained what we’re risking? :rolleyes: You have to have a good regular season to make the playoffs. If you get stuck with a bad QB you don’t make the playoffs. I don’t know how some of you maintain interest in the team if you think they’re going to lose in the playoffs every time they make them. Good luck finding a QB that’s good in the regular season and good in the playoffs. Nothing is worth sitting home for the playoffs every season. I want to see fun regular seasons where we have a shot at the playoffs every year. I don’t want to be sitting there watching the team play out the season with several games left, knowing they’re going to be sitting home. Anytime you make the playoffs you have a chance. You’re one of those who puts too much of the blame on the QB. No QB is going to win in the playoffs with our playoff defenses.
 

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What’s the risk? Answers given: could take years to find a suitable replacement (which will be the case no matter when they move on from the current QB), don’t you remember the time between Aikman/Romo (of course we do-you keep equating losing the current QB with going right back to those years as though this team and those teams have lots in common apart from who is playing QB), you think you can just plug a guy in and begin winning 12 games a season (of course not-this team is on a two dimensional circle track and the QB is entering his 9th year-you don’t think it likely he and this team have gone as far as they can together?), you think good QB’s just grow on trees (no, plenty of okay/good QB’s land on good to average teams and have decent records though perhaps just missing the playoffs).

The fact remains that with this QB’s current list of postseason exploits, that the team has basically a zero percent chance of even reaching a conference finals game let alone a Super Bowl (all-time NFL historically speaking). He is almost guaranteed to not be a starter five years from now-or a greatly diminished one. Most QB’s do not make it to the age 40 season-no matter if they are exceptional prototypical pocket passers or not (and that is not this QB’s game and never will be).
What is a suitable replacement? Someone who comes in manages the position and gets the team to a winning record or is it someone who can take the team further. Dak Prescott as it stands isn't taking anyone further so what we would deem a suitable replacement would be someone who matches that.
 

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Eli should not be a HOF; Brees is borderline. Rothlesburger will probably make it.
Did you really just call a 13x pro bowler, superbowl MVP, and 2x offensive player of the year borderline ? (what ?).

Eli arguably has a better case than Ben since Eli has the 2 Superbowl MVPs vs Bens zero. Neither are obviously first ballot, they will have to wait to get in, but both should be locks.

Usually, a good indicator of will a player eventually make Canton is "is this person without a question a finalist the first year of being eligible?" (The answer to all 3 of those quarterbacks in question is Yes)
 
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